Furcal to the Bravos

[Coldneck]

<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->According to Ken Rosenthal, shortstop Rafael Furcal has reached an agreement with the Braves. He came up with Atlanta, of course. Furcal just needs to pass a physical. Now we're left to wonder what happens with Yunel Escobar and Kelly Johnson.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

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This makes Escobar available for a Peavy trade again.

[rok]

Well this is just dumb. They couldn't afford him when he was 3 years younger and in his prime, but now they can? But yeah, if they can land Peavy now, they're gonna be a much improved team.

[sleepyhead]

According to mlb.com (via mlbtraderumors), Furcal is going to play 2nd and Johnson is going back to the OF. Not trading Escobar

[Coldneck]

<!--quoteo(post=5100:date=Dec 16 2008, 01:27 PM:name=sleepyhead)-->QUOTE (sleepyhead @ Dec 16 2008, 01:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->According to mlb.com (via mlbtraderumors), Furcal is going to play 2nd and Johnson is going back to the OF. Not trading Escobar<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

That makes no sense. Escobar isn't a very good defensive SS. I have no doubt Furcal will be playing SS. Escobar will either be traded or moved to 2B.

[CCwinwssoon]

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8947764...;favorites'

Now they are saying there is no Furcal deal. This has been such a [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/clapp.gif[/img] off season with all the deals being close or done and then finding out nothing was final.

[Andy]

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Now they are saying there is no Furcal deal. This has been such a [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/clapp.gif[/img] weird offseason with all the deals being close or done and then finding out nothing was final.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

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What he said. Actually, I think that's fairly typical these days. Reporters are in such a rush to be the first to report a story, they report rumors as fact.

[Clapp]

<!--quoteo(post=5140:date=Dec 16 2008, 02:31 PM:name=Coldneck)-->QUOTE (Coldneck @ Dec 16 2008, 02:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=5100:date=Dec 16 2008, 01:27 PM:name=sleepyhead)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (sleepyhead @ Dec 16 2008, 01:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->According to mlb.com (via mlbtraderumors), Furcal is going to play 2nd and Johnson is going back to the OF. Not trading Escobar<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

That makes no sense. Escobar isn't a very good defensive SS. I have no doubt Furcal will be playing SS. Escobar will either be traded or moved to 2B.
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I'm not so sure. Furcal's great arm is also his problem. He won't have to throw 95 mph from 2nd base and sail them into the 5th row. I'd rather have Escobar at short and he should still improve at the position.
Furcal's career fielding pct at SS: .966. He's made at least 23 errors 5 times.

[Clapp]

Word is he's about to re-sign with the Dodgers.

[sleepyhead]

Does this remind anyone of him being on the verge of signing with the Cubs and then the Dodgers swooping in at the last second? Fuck Kinzer.

[Clapp]

And he is officially staying with the Dodgers.

[Ace]

<!--quoteo(post=5513:date=Dec 17 2008, 03:21 PM:name=sleepyhead)-->QUOTE (sleepyhead @ Dec 17 2008, 03:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Does this remind anyone of him being on the verge of signing with the Cubs and then the Dodgers swooping in at the last second? Fuck Kinzer.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
First thing I thought of. Fuck them both.

[ColoradoCub]

<!--quoteo(post=5565:date=Dec 17 2008, 05:15 PM:name=Ace)-->QUOTE (Ace @ Dec 17 2008, 05:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=5513:date=Dec 17 2008, 03:21 PM:name=sleepyhead)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (sleepyhead @ Dec 17 2008, 03:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Does this remind anyone of him being on the verge of signing with the Cubs and then the Dodgers swooping in at the last second? Fuck Kinzer.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
First thing I thought of. Fuck them both.
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ditto

[ColoradoCub]

<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->5:53 pm: Rosenthal has updated his post with a bit more info and a timeline from Wren. Around midnight on Monday, after much negotiating, Kinzer told Wren, "we're good." Tuesday morning, says Rosenthal (note the slight discrepancy from Brown's report below), Wren "got a voicemail from Kinzer" asking for the term sheet to be put together and faxed to him, which Wren did. "Shortly thereafter, Kinzer began 'backpedaling,' saying he promised the Dodgers he would talk to them." And on Tuesday, the Dodgers "suddenly" appeared willing to grant Furcal a third year -- and today, the Braves were told that Furcal would not be joining them.

5:43pm: Tim Brown reports that the Braves had sent Furcal a signed term sheet, according to "a club source." Monday night, Kinzer asked for the paperwork to be faxed to him. Braves GM Frank Wren complied Tuesday morning. Writes Brown:

No member of the Braves’ front office – not Wren, not longtime former GM John Schuerholz – could recall a time when a signed term sheet was not the equivalent of a handshake agreement, ethically – if not legally – binding.

Brown adds that the Braves believe Kinzer shopped the term sheet to the Dodgers, who had been reluctant to commit to a third year.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Wow. If I were a GM and Kinzer called me about anyone he was representing in the future, I'd tell him to go to fuck.

[Clapp]

3 years, 33 million.

[Runnys]

<!--quoteo(post=5595:date=Dec 17 2008, 07:19 PM:name=Clapp)-->QUOTE (Clapp @ Dec 17 2008, 07:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->3 years, 33 million.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Either Furcal is a douche, Kinzer is a douche, or they are both douches!! That is a pure 100% dick move.