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<!--quoteo(post=14514:date=Jan 28 2009, 07:05 PM:name=veryzer)-->QUOTE (veryzer @ Jan 28 2009, 07:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=14512:date=Jan 28 2009, 07:01 PM:name=Captain)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Captain @ Jan 28 2009, 07:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Fuck just winning the division.Fuck the rest of the sorry ass teams in this division. I'm not happy anymore just making the playoffs.
I want a World Series Championship.
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it's being done my friend. THIS is a team that can win a championship.
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I wanna know ...RIGHT NOW... if you honestly beleve that!
Honestly....deep down in that Cub heart of yours that has a a great memory and a even better understanding of what it takes...Do you honestly believe that???????
A herd of buffalo can move only as fast as the slowest buffalo. When the herd is hunted, it is the slowest and weakest ones at the back that are killed first. This natural selection is good for the herd as a whole, because the general speed and health of the whole group keeps improving by the regular killing of the weakest members.
In much the same way the human brain can only operate as fast as the slowest brain cells. Excessive intake of alcohol, we all know, kills brain cells, but naturally it attacks the slowest and weakest brain cells first. In this way regular consumption of beer eliminates the weaker brain cells, making the brain a faster and more efficient machine. That's why you always feel smarter after a few beers.
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<!--quoteo(post=14517:date=Jan 28 2009, 07:06 PM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Jan 28 2009, 07:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=14514:date=Jan 28 2009, 07:05 PM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Jan 28 2009, 07:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=14512:date=Jan 28 2009, 07:01 PM:name=Captain)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Captain @ Jan 28 2009, 07:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Fuck just winning the division.Fuck the rest of the sorry ass teams in this division. I'm not happy anymore just making the playoffs.
I want a World Series Championship.
Build a team that can do that!<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
it's being done my friend. THIS is a team that can win a championship.
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you don't think so?
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<!--quoteo(post=14520:date=Jan 28 2009, 07:09 PM:name=veryzer)-->QUOTE (veryzer @ Jan 28 2009, 07:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=14517:date=Jan 28 2009, 07:06 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Jan 28 2009, 07:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=14514:date=Jan 28 2009, 07:05 PM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Jan 28 2009, 07:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=14512:date=Jan 28 2009, 07:01 PM:name=Captain)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Captain @ Jan 28 2009, 07:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Fuck just winning the division.Fuck the rest of the sorry ass teams in this division. I'm not happy anymore just making the playoffs.
I want a World Series Championship.
Build a team that can do that!<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
it's being done my friend. THIS is a team that can win a championship.
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you don't think so?
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I'm not feeling it.
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<!--quoteo(post=14522:date=Jan 28 2009, 07:11 PM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Jan 28 2009, 07:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=14520:date=Jan 28 2009, 07:09 PM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Jan 28 2009, 07:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=14517:date=Jan 28 2009, 07:06 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Jan 28 2009, 07:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=14514:date=Jan 28 2009, 07:05 PM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Jan 28 2009, 07:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=14512:date=Jan 28 2009, 07:01 PM:name=Captain)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Captain @ Jan 28 2009, 07:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Fuck just winning the division.Fuck the rest of the sorry ass teams in this division. I'm not happy anymore just making the playoffs.
I want a World Series Championship.
Build a team that can do that!<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
it's being done my friend. THIS is a team that can win a championship.
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you don't think so?
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I'm not feeling it.
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really? you don't think this is a championship calibre team? i'm not saying <i>will</i>, i'm saying <i>can.</i>
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<!--quoteo(post=14512:date=Jan 28 2009, 06:01 PM:name=Captain)-->QUOTE (Captain @ Jan 28 2009, 06:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Fuck just winning the division.Fuck the rest of the sorry ass teams in this division. I'm not happy anymore just making the playoffs.
I want a World Series Championship.
Build a team that can do that!<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I don't know if you were speaking to me but I've been as vocal as anybody about this. All I was saying is we should win the division no matter what so we can afford to have a few issues going into midseason where we can make an acquisition or two to better prepare the team for the playoffs. Dude, the season doesn't start for me until October. No more running around the house screaming when Geovany Soto hits a homer to tie it in the 9th against the Brewers. I won't even get excited about winning the division. Championship or bust.
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<!--quoteo(post=14522:date=Jan 28 2009, 06:11 PM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Jan 28 2009, 06:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=14520:date=Jan 28 2009, 07:09 PM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Jan 28 2009, 07:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=14517:date=Jan 28 2009, 07:06 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Jan 28 2009, 07:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=14514:date=Jan 28 2009, 07:05 PM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Jan 28 2009, 07:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=14512:date=Jan 28 2009, 07:01 PM:name=Captain)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Captain @ Jan 28 2009, 07:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Fuck just winning the division.Fuck the rest of the sorry ass teams in this division. I'm not happy anymore just making the playoffs.
I want a World Series Championship.
Build a team that can do that!<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
it's being done my friend. THIS is a team that can win a championship.
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you don't think so?
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I'm not feeling it.
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I don't think they ever win but this team is every bit as talented and has a better playoff rotation than many of the recent winners. If the hitters hit like they can, and our rotation pitches like they can, nobody would beat us. But they'll choke again I'm sure.
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<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->6:23pm: I just spoke to a source familiar with the Cubs' thinking. Hopefully I can further douse the flames of the Peavy-Cubs rumors - the Cubs aren't planning to restart the Peavy talks, and none of their recent trades for pitching were related to Peavy. Keep in mind that the team's ownership situation is far from resolved. - Tim Dierkes<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
This disgusts me. All the trading for fucking A ball pitching just for nothing? We gave DeRosa for nothing? Don't tell me Fontenot or Miles are gonna do better than DeRosa, I don't care if the lineup looks more "balanced", I'll put the better hiters on the lineup, not the ones that make it "balanced".
Unless someone as Brian Roberts, Orlando Hudson, or someone of that caliber is coming, Hendry just really messed the shit up this offseason.
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<!--quoteo(post=14528:date=Jan 28 2009, 07:20 PM:name=Clapp)-->QUOTE (Clapp @ Jan 28 2009, 07:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=14512:date=Jan 28 2009, 06:01 PM:name=Captain)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Captain @ Jan 28 2009, 06:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Fuck just winning the division.Fuck the rest of the sorry ass teams in this division. I'm not happy anymore just making the playoffs.
I want a World Series Championship.
Build a team that can do that!<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I don't know if you were speaking to me but I've been as vocal as anybody about this. All I was saying is we should win the division no matter what so we can afford to have a few issues going into midseason where we can make an acquisition or two to better prepare the team for the playoffs. Dude, the season doesn't start for me until October. No more running around the house screaming when Geovany Soto hits a homer to tie it in the 9th against the Brewers. I won't even get excited about winning the division. Championship or bust.
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if and when soto hits a game tying home run against the brewers this year, you will yell and you will scream and you will run around the house. if you don't think so, you're only lying to yourself.
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I didnt mean you specifically Clapp....just more of a general feel from the rest of the board.
Championship or bust.
A herd of buffalo can move only as fast as the slowest buffalo. When the herd is hunted, it is the slowest and weakest ones at the back that are killed first. This natural selection is good for the herd as a whole, because the general speed and health of the whole group keeps improving by the regular killing of the weakest members.
In much the same way the human brain can only operate as fast as the slowest brain cells. Excessive intake of alcohol, we all know, kills brain cells, but naturally it attacks the slowest and weakest brain cells first. In this way regular consumption of beer eliminates the weaker brain cells, making the brain a faster and more efficient machine. That's why you always feel smarter after a few beers.
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<!--quoteo(post=14519:date=Jan 28 2009, 07:08 PM:name=Captain)-->QUOTE (Captain @ Jan 28 2009, 07:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=14514:date=Jan 28 2009, 07:05 PM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Jan 28 2009, 07:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=14512:date=Jan 28 2009, 07:01 PM:name=Captain)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Captain @ Jan 28 2009, 07:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Fuck just winning the division.Fuck the rest of the sorry ass teams in this division. I'm not happy anymore just making the playoffs.
I want a World Series Championship.
Build a team that can do that!<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
it's being done my friend. THIS is a team that can win a championship.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I wanna know ...RIGHT NOW... if you honestly beleve that!
Honestly....deep down in that Cub heart of yours that has a a great memory and a even better understanding of what it takes...Do you honestly believe that???????
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
A herd of buffalo can move only as fast as the slowest buffalo. When the herd is hunted, it is the slowest and weakest ones at the back that are killed first. This natural selection is good for the herd as a whole, because the general speed and health of the whole group keeps improving by the regular killing of the weakest members.
In much the same way the human brain can only operate as fast as the slowest brain cells. Excessive intake of alcohol, we all know, kills brain cells, but naturally it attacks the slowest and weakest brain cells first. In this way regular consumption of beer eliminates the weaker brain cells, making the brain a faster and more efficient machine. That's why you always feel smarter after a few beers.
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<!--quoteo(post=14525:date=Jan 28 2009, 07:19 PM:name=veryzer)-->QUOTE (veryzer @ Jan 28 2009, 07:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=14522:date=Jan 28 2009, 07:11 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Jan 28 2009, 07:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=14520:date=Jan 28 2009, 07:09 PM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Jan 28 2009, 07:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=14517:date=Jan 28 2009, 07:06 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Jan 28 2009, 07:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=14514:date=Jan 28 2009, 07:05 PM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Jan 28 2009, 07:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=14512:date=Jan 28 2009, 07:01 PM:name=Captain)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Captain @ Jan 28 2009, 07:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Fuck just winning the division.Fuck the rest of the sorry ass teams in this division. I'm not happy anymore just making the playoffs.
I want a World Series Championship.
Build a team that can do that!<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
it's being done my friend. THIS is a team that can win a championship.
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[img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/spit.gif[/img]
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you don't think so?
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I'm not feeling it.
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really? you don't think this is a championship calibre team? i'm not saying <i>will</i>, i'm saying <i>can.</i>
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We're probably one of the top 5 or 6 teams in baseball. And since any team that gets into the playoffs can win if they get hot, then sure -- they can win it all with this team. That doesn't mean Hendry didn't make a bunch of boneheaded moves this offseason.
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Just an illustration to see on paper exactly where we stand.
We have added Bradley, Gregg, Heilman, Vizcaino, Miles, Gathwright, probably the Bako, Stevens, Archer, Guab, and Williamson.
We have lost Wood, DeRosa, Marquis, Pie, Cedeno, and Ceda.
The rotation as it stands is
Zambrano
Dempster
Harden
Lilly
Fighting it out for the fifth spot are Marshall, Heilman, Shark, Gaudin, and Guzman.
The Bullpen
Marmol
Gregg
Cotts
Vizcaino
Stevens
All of the losers from the fifth starter derby. I think they will carry seven relievers. I also believe that Guzman might somehow have another option year?
The lineup as I currently see it.
Soriano
Fontenot /Miles
Lee
Bradley
Ramirez
Soto
Fukudome/Johnson
Theriot
The bench
Fontenot/Miles
Fukudome/Johnson
the Bako
Gathwright
The fifth bench spot is going to have to go to someone who can play the infield.
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<!--quoteo(post=14532:date=Jan 28 2009, 06:25 PM:name=veryzer)-->QUOTE (veryzer @ Jan 28 2009, 06:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=14528:date=Jan 28 2009, 07:20 PM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Jan 28 2009, 07:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=14512:date=Jan 28 2009, 06:01 PM:name=Captain)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Captain @ Jan 28 2009, 06:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Fuck just winning the division.Fuck the rest of the sorry ass teams in this division. I'm not happy anymore just making the playoffs.
I want a World Series Championship.
Build a team that can do that!<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I don't know if you were speaking to me but I've been as vocal as anybody about this. All I was saying is we should win the division no matter what so we can afford to have a few issues going into midseason where we can make an acquisition or two to better prepare the team for the playoffs. Dude, the season doesn't start for me until October. No more running around the house screaming when Geovany Soto hits a homer to tie it in the 9th against the Brewers. I won't even get excited about winning the division. Championship or bust.
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if and when soto hits a game tying home run against the brewers this year, you will yell and you will scream and you will run around the house. if you don't think so, you're only lying to yourself.
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If it happens in the NLCS, yeah. I seriously want to just skip the regular season. I had a dream I was at a playoff game 2 nights ago, then I woke up all miserable. They win 70 games? I'll feel the same I do now. They win 95 games? I'll feel the same I do now. Until I see maybe somebody hit a fucking sac fly, come through with a big hit, anything in the playoffs, I'm going to be unsatisfied. Just some sign of having some sacks and stop acting like a bunch of pansies that can't handle the pressure.
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My take on it is this: You can't really "plan" for October.
Nobody really knows what the magical x-factor is that helps teams run through the gauntlet of 3 straight post-season series.
About the only thing that stat researchers have pointed to is that it seems to help to have a kick-ass closer. That was one reason why I was against keelhauling Kerry Wood, but perhaps he'll be injured by October anyway.
And when Marmol is hot, he's as kick-ass as anybody.
The only thing you can really do is to keep getting yourself into the tournament. We're lucky to be in a weak division. All we have to do is GET there again, and we at least have a legit shot.
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<!--quoteo(post=14531:date=Jan 28 2009, 06:24 PM:name=AlexV)-->QUOTE (AlexV @ Jan 28 2009, 06:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <!--quotec-->6:23pm: I just spoke to a source familiar with the Cubs' thinking. Hopefully I can further douse the flames of the Peavy-Cubs rumors - the Cubs aren't planning to restart the Peavy talks, and none of their recent trades for pitching were related to Peavy. Keep in mind that the team's ownership situation is far from resolved. - Tim Dierkes<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
This disgusts me. All the trading for fucking A ball pitching just for nothing? We gave DeRosa for nothing? Don't tell me Fontenot or Miles are gonna do better than DeRosa, I don't care if the lineup looks more "balanced", I'll put the better hiters on the lineup, not the ones that make it "balanced".
Unless someone as Brian Roberts, Orlando Hudson, or someone of that caliber is coming, Hendry just really messed the shit up this offseason.
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If Fontenot and Miles hit anything like they did last year, that will probably be better than what DeRosa does this year. It's losing his versatility that sucks.
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