Minor League Roundup

[ruby23]

<!--quoteo(post=33159:date=Apr 25 2009, 07:13 PM:name=Ace)-->QUOTE (Ace @ Apr 25 2009, 07:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33157:date=Apr 25 2009, 08:10 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Apr 25 2009, 08:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33156:date=Apr 25 2009, 07:06 PM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Apr 25 2009, 07:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33119:date=Apr 25 2009, 05:59 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Apr 25 2009, 05:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <!--quotec-->Hoffpauir/Fox/$10 mill to use on the ML team >>>>>>> Lee<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I don't agree.
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Oh, ok. You know, if you had just said up front that you were retarded, we could have avoided this whole exchange.
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Yeah, because it's reasonable to think 2 guys approaching 30 years old that have never done anything on the MLB level can replace Lee and the Cubs can reinvest $10 M in a difference maker without giving up something to get that difference maker.
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I'm glad we agree.

(psst - offensively, Lee is not exactly difficult to replace anymore)
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Nope, but Hoffpauir and Fox aren't gonna do it.

[Ace]

<!--quoteo(post=33160:date=Apr 25 2009, 08:15 PM:name=ruby23)-->QUOTE (ruby23 @ Apr 25 2009, 08:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33159:date=Apr 25 2009, 07:13 PM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Apr 25 2009, 07:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33157:date=Apr 25 2009, 08:10 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Apr 25 2009, 08:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33156:date=Apr 25 2009, 07:06 PM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Apr 25 2009, 07:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33119:date=Apr 25 2009, 05:59 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Apr 25 2009, 05:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <!--quotec-->Hoffpauir/Fox/$10 mill to use on the ML team >>>>>>> Lee<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I don't agree.
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Oh, ok. You know, if you had just said up front that you were retarded, we could have avoided this whole exchange.
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Yeah, because it's reasonable to think 2 guys approaching 30 years old that have never done anything on the MLB level can replace Lee and the Cubs can reinvest $10 M in a difference maker without giving up something to get that difference maker.
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I'm glad we agree.

(psst - offensively, Lee is not exactly difficult to replace anymore)
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Nope, but Hoffpauir and Fox aren't gonna do it.

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You're right, they <i>aren't</i>, but they certainly <i>could</i>. And considering Lee's continued and predictable decline, someone is going to have to replace him.

[ruby23]

<!--quoteo(post=33161:date=Apr 25 2009, 07:18 PM:name=Ace)-->QUOTE (Ace @ Apr 25 2009, 07:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33160:date=Apr 25 2009, 08:15 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Apr 25 2009, 08:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33159:date=Apr 25 2009, 07:13 PM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Apr 25 2009, 07:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33157:date=Apr 25 2009, 08:10 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Apr 25 2009, 08:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33156:date=Apr 25 2009, 07:06 PM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Apr 25 2009, 07:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33119:date=Apr 25 2009, 05:59 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Apr 25 2009, 05:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <!--quotec-->Hoffpauir/Fox/$10 mill to use on the ML team >>>>>>> Lee<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I don't agree.
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Oh, ok. You know, if you had just said up front that you were retarded, we could have avoided this whole exchange.
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Yeah, because it's reasonable to think 2 guys approaching 30 years old that have never done anything on the MLB level can replace Lee and the Cubs can reinvest $10 M in a difference maker without giving up something to get that difference maker.
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I'm glad we agree.

(psst - offensively, Lee is not exactly difficult to replace anymore)
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Nope, but Hoffpauir and Fox aren't gonna do it.

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You're right, they <i>aren't</i>, but they certainly <i>could</i>. And considering Lee's continued and predictable decline, someone is going to have to replace him.
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You're right, someone will have to replace him and if this team has any aspirations of being successful, he won't be replaced by Micah Hoffpauir and Jake Fox. A Hoffpauir/Fox-type platoon is something teams that don't win do.

[Ace]

<!--quoteo(post=33162:date=Apr 25 2009, 08:21 PM:name=ruby23)-->QUOTE (ruby23 @ Apr 25 2009, 08:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33161:date=Apr 25 2009, 07:18 PM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Apr 25 2009, 07:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33160:date=Apr 25 2009, 08:15 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Apr 25 2009, 08:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33159:date=Apr 25 2009, 07:13 PM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Apr 25 2009, 07:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33157:date=Apr 25 2009, 08:10 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Apr 25 2009, 08:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33156:date=Apr 25 2009, 07:06 PM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Apr 25 2009, 07:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33119:date=Apr 25 2009, 05:59 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Apr 25 2009, 05:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <!--quotec-->Hoffpauir/Fox/$10 mill to use on the ML team >>>>>>> Lee<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I don't agree.
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Oh, ok. You know, if you had just said up front that you were retarded, we could have avoided this whole exchange.
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Yeah, because it's reasonable to think 2 guys approaching 30 years old that have never done anything on the MLB level can replace Lee and the Cubs can reinvest $10 M in a difference maker without giving up something to get that difference maker.
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I'm glad we agree.

(psst - offensively, Lee is not exactly difficult to replace anymore)
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Nope, but Hoffpauir and Fox aren't gonna do it.

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You're right, they <i>aren't</i>, but they certainly <i>could</i>. And considering Lee's continued and predictable decline, someone is going to have to replace him.
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You're right, someone will have to replace him and if this team has any aspirations of being successful, he won't be replaced by Micah Hoffpauir and Jake Fox. A Hoffpauir/Fox-type platoon is something teams that don't win do.
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Take a look at the team that just spent two days kicking our ass and get back to me.

[ruby23]

<!--quoteo(post=33163:date=Apr 25 2009, 07:23 PM:name=Ace)-->QUOTE (Ace @ Apr 25 2009, 07:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33162:date=Apr 25 2009, 08:21 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Apr 25 2009, 08:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33161:date=Apr 25 2009, 07:18 PM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Apr 25 2009, 07:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33160:date=Apr 25 2009, 08:15 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Apr 25 2009, 08:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33159:date=Apr 25 2009, 07:13 PM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Apr 25 2009, 07:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33157:date=Apr 25 2009, 08:10 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Apr 25 2009, 08:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33156:date=Apr 25 2009, 07:06 PM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Apr 25 2009, 07:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33119:date=Apr 25 2009, 05:59 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Apr 25 2009, 05:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <!--quotec-->Hoffpauir/Fox/$10 mill to use on the ML team >>>>>>> Lee<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I don't agree.
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Oh, ok. You know, if you had just said up front that you were retarded, we could have avoided this whole exchange.
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Yeah, because it's reasonable to think 2 guys approaching 30 years old that have never done anything on the MLB level can replace Lee and the Cubs can reinvest $10 M in a difference maker without giving up something to get that difference maker.
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I'm glad we agree.

(psst - offensively, Lee is not exactly difficult to replace anymore)
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Nope, but Hoffpauir and Fox aren't gonna do it.

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You're right, they <i>aren't</i>, but they certainly <i>could</i>. And considering Lee's continued and predictable decline, someone is going to have to replace him.
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You're right, someone will have to replace him and if this team has any aspirations of being successful, he won't be replaced by Micah Hoffpauir and Jake Fox. A Hoffpauir/Fox-type platoon is something teams that don't win do.
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Take a look at the team that just spent two days kicking our ass and get back to me.
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At which position do the Cardinals have a platoon consisting of a 29 year old career minor leaguer and 27 year old career minor leaguer with a combined less than 120 career MLB ABs? I musta missed that.

[Ace]

<!--quoteo(post=33164:date=Apr 25 2009, 08:30 PM:name=ruby23)-->QUOTE (ruby23 @ Apr 25 2009, 08:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33163:date=Apr 25 2009, 07:23 PM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Apr 25 2009, 07:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33162:date=Apr 25 2009, 08:21 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Apr 25 2009, 08:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33161:date=Apr 25 2009, 07:18 PM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Apr 25 2009, 07:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33160:date=Apr 25 2009, 08:15 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Apr 25 2009, 08:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33159:date=Apr 25 2009, 07:13 PM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Apr 25 2009, 07:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33157:date=Apr 25 2009, 08:10 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Apr 25 2009, 08:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33156:date=Apr 25 2009, 07:06 PM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Apr 25 2009, 07:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33119:date=Apr 25 2009, 05:59 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Apr 25 2009, 05:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <!--quotec-->Hoffpauir/Fox/$10 mill to use on the ML team >>>>>>> Lee<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I don't agree.
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Oh, ok. You know, if you had just said up front that you were retarded, we could have avoided this whole exchange.
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Yeah, because it's reasonable to think 2 guys approaching 30 years old that have never done anything on the MLB level can replace Lee and the Cubs can reinvest $10 M in a difference maker without giving up something to get that difference maker.
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I'm glad we agree.

(psst - offensively, Lee is not exactly difficult to replace anymore)
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Nope, but Hoffpauir and Fox aren't gonna do it.

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You're right, they <i>aren't</i>, but they certainly <i>could</i>. And considering Lee's continued and predictable decline, someone is going to have to replace him.
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You're right, someone will have to replace him and if this team has any aspirations of being successful, he won't be replaced by Micah Hoffpauir and Jake Fox. A Hoffpauir/Fox-type platoon is something teams that don't win do.
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Take a look at the team that just spent two days kicking our ass and get back to me.
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At which position do the Cardinals have a platoon consisting of a 29 year old career minor leaguer and 27 year old career minor leaguer with a combined less than 120 career MLB ABs? I musta missed that.
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No, what you missed is the "don't be a hyper literalist" boat.

The Cardinals have made a "career" of finding late 20s nobodies who show up out of nowhere and perform adequately or better at the Major League level.

[ruby23]

I fail to see how Hoffpauir or Fox fit that mold . . . also, make me a list of these late 20's nobodies the Cardinals have "discovered" on the offensive side of the game.

[Ace]

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To quote Jack Nicholson - I have neither the time nor the inclination; but if you are sincerely indicating this is news to you, you're either a.) just being obstinate, or b.) watching your first baseball season ever.

[ruby23]

<!--quoteo(post=33170:date=Apr 25 2009, 07:56 PM:name=Ace)-->QUOTE (Ace @ Apr 25 2009, 07:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33169:date=Apr 25 2009, 08:54 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Apr 25 2009, 08:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I fail to see how Hoffpauir or Fox fit that mold . . . also, make me a list of these late 20's nobodies the Cardinals have "discovered" on the offensive side of the game.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

To quote Jack Nicholson - I have neither the time nor the inclination; but if you are sincerely indicating this is news to you, you're either a.) just being obstinate, or b.) watching your first baseball season ever.
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I think it's completely overblown and the fact that you can't come up with a couple of names off the top of your head adds to it.

[Ace]

<!--quoteo(post=33171:date=Apr 25 2009, 08:57 PM:name=ruby23)-->QUOTE (ruby23 @ Apr 25 2009, 08:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33170:date=Apr 25 2009, 07:56 PM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Apr 25 2009, 07:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33169:date=Apr 25 2009, 08:54 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Apr 25 2009, 08:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I fail to see how Hoffpauir or Fox fit that mold . . . also, make me a list of these late 20's nobodies the Cardinals have "discovered" on the offensive side of the game.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

To quote Jack Nicholson - I have neither the time nor the inclination; but if you are sincerely indicating this is news to you, you're either a.) just being obstinate, or b.) watching your first baseball season ever.
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I think it's completely overblown and the fact that you can't come up with a couple of names off the top of your head adds to it.
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How old is Ludwick? Duncan? Shumacker? Remember Bo fucking Hart?

How about Rick Fucking Ankiel? Give me a break, ruby.

[ruby23]

<!--quoteo(post=33175:date=Apr 25 2009, 08:09 PM:name=Ace)-->QUOTE (Ace @ Apr 25 2009, 08:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33171:date=Apr 25 2009, 08:57 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Apr 25 2009, 08:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33170:date=Apr 25 2009, 07:56 PM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Apr 25 2009, 07:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33169:date=Apr 25 2009, 08:54 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Apr 25 2009, 08:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I fail to see how Hoffpauir or Fox fit that mold . . . also, make me a list of these late 20's nobodies the Cardinals have "discovered" on the offensive side of the game.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

To quote Jack Nicholson - I have neither the time nor the inclination; but if you are sincerely indicating this is news to you, you're either a.) just being obstinate, or b.) watching your first baseball season ever.
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I think it's completely overblown and the fact that you can't come up with a couple of names off the top of your head adds to it.
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How old is Ludwick? Duncan? Shumacker? Remember Bo fucking Hart?

How about Rick Fucking Ankiel? Give me a break, ruby.
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Ludwick is and always thought to be a good player, he just couldn't stay healthy, I'd say he doesn't count. Bo Hart played in a career 88 games and had a line of .277/.317/.395. Duncan got his feet wet in the MLB when he was 24. Schumaker and Ankiel have each had 1 good season. Like I said, totally overblown.

[Ace]

<!--quoteo(post=33177:date=Apr 25 2009, 09:19 PM:name=ruby23)-->QUOTE (ruby23 @ Apr 25 2009, 09:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33175:date=Apr 25 2009, 08:09 PM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Apr 25 2009, 08:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33171:date=Apr 25 2009, 08:57 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Apr 25 2009, 08:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33170:date=Apr 25 2009, 07:56 PM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Apr 25 2009, 07:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33169:date=Apr 25 2009, 08:54 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Apr 25 2009, 08:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I fail to see how Hoffpauir or Fox fit that mold . . . also, make me a list of these late 20's nobodies the Cardinals have "discovered" on the offensive side of the game.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

To quote Jack Nicholson - I have neither the time nor the inclination; but if you are sincerely indicating this is news to you, you're either a.) just being obstinate, or b.) watching your first baseball season ever.
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I think it's completely overblown and the fact that you can't come up with a couple of names off the top of your head adds to it.
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How old is Ludwick? Duncan? Shumacker? Remember Bo fucking Hart?

How about Rick Fucking Ankiel? Give me a break, ruby.
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Ludwick is and always thought to be a good player, he just couldn't stay healthy, I'd say he doesn't count. Bo Hart played in a career 88 games and had a line of .277/.317/.395. Duncan got his feet wet in the MLB when he was 24. Schumaker and Ankiel have each had 1 good season. Like I said, totally overblown.
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And that was just off the top of my head. If I cared enough to do research, I'm sure there'd be plenty more. (oh, and you know that Jake Fox is all of 26, right?)

The point remains: the only thing overblown is your pithy assurances that Hoffpaiur and Fox, platooning to maximize their already CLEARLY ML-calibre hitting ability couldn't easily equal Derrek Lee's obviously, rapidly declining offensive skills.

Not every position on a WS winning team is populated by a $10 million dollar All-Star vet.

[ruby23]

Jake Fox will be 27 by the end of the year.

<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->The point remains: the only thing overblown is your pithy assurances that Hoffpaiur and Fox, platooning to maximize their already CLEARLY ML-calibre hitting ability couldn't easily equal Derrek Lee's obviously, rapidly declining offensive skills.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Says the guy who advocated the Dubois/Hollandsworth platoon.

<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->Not every position on a WS winning team is populated by a $10 million dollar All-Star vet.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

And none of them should be covered by 2 career minor leaguers in a platoon.

[Ace]

<!--quoteo(post=33179:date=Apr 25 2009, 09:26 PM:name=ruby23)-->QUOTE (ruby23 @ Apr 25 2009, 09:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Jake Fox will be 27 by the end of the year.

<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <!--quotec-->The point remains: the only thing overblown is your pithy assurances that Hoffpaiur and Fox, platooning to maximize their already CLEARLY ML-calibre hitting ability couldn't easily equal Derrek Lee's obviously, rapidly declining offensive skills.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Says the guy who advocated the Dubois/Hollandsworth platoon.

<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->Not every position on a WS winning team is populated by a $10 million dollar All-Star vet.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

And none of them should be covered by 2 career minor leaguers in a platoon.
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Seems a bit unfair to call Fox a "career" minor leaguer, no? And Hoffpauir would have been a Major Leaguer a couple years ago if not for Derrek Lee never missing any time.

I think you'll find I'm much less out on a limb with this platoon idea than the Hollandbois (although many agreed with me then that it would be an ACCEPTABLE platoon because no one else was available).

You're missing (or blatantly ignoring) the main point: Derrek Lee SUCKS now.

[ruby23]

<!--quoteo(post=33181:date=Apr 25 2009, 08:39 PM:name=Ace)-->QUOTE (Ace @ Apr 25 2009, 08:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33179:date=Apr 25 2009, 09:26 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Apr 25 2009, 09:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Jake Fox will be 27 by the end of the year.

<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <!--quotec-->The point remains: the only thing overblown is your pithy assurances that Hoffpaiur and Fox, platooning to maximize their already CLEARLY ML-calibre hitting ability couldn't easily equal Derrek Lee's obviously, rapidly declining offensive skills.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Says the guy who advocated the Dubois/Hollandsworth platoon.

<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->Not every position on a WS winning team is populated by a $10 million dollar All-Star vet.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

And none of them should be covered by 2 career minor leaguers in a platoon.
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Seems a bit unfair to call Fox a "career" minor leaguer, no? And Hoffpauir would have been a Major Leaguer a couple years ago if not for Derrek Lee never missing any time.

I think you'll find I'm much less out on a limb with this platoon idea than the Hollandbois (although many agreed with me then that it would be an ACCEPTABLE platoon because no one else was available).

You're missing (or blatantly ignoring) the main point: Derrek Lee SUCKS now.
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I'm not missing the point, I'm well aware that Lee is not what he used to be. I'm also aware that Hoffpauir/Fox would be worse. Also, someone who is virtually the same age as I am and has yet to see significant time in the MLB is a career minor leaguer, no matter how you slice it. Also, saving $10 M does nothing when there's no one to spend it on and is counterproductive when it would be used to gain salary in a trade that would cost talent in the first place.