Minor League Roundup

[Kid]

This is Jake Fox's 7th minor league season. He has appeared in 7 major league games. If that's not a career minor leaguer, I don't know what is.

[Ace]

<!--quoteo(post=33183:date=Apr 25 2009, 09:47 PM:name=Kid)-->QUOTE (Kid @ Apr 25 2009, 09:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->This is Jake Fox's 7th minor league season. He has appeared in 7 major league games. If that's not a career minor leaguer, I don't know what is.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Do you really think there aren't dozens of current Major Leaguers who spent 6+ seasons in the minor leagues? Because that's kind of the point you're making right there.

[Kid]

<!--quoteo(post=33184:date=Apr 25 2009, 09:48 PM:name=Ace)-->QUOTE (Ace @ Apr 25 2009, 09:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33183:date=Apr 25 2009, 09:47 PM:name=Kid)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid @ Apr 25 2009, 09:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->This is Jake Fox's 7th minor league season. He has appeared in 7 major league games. If that's not a career minor leaguer, I don't know what is.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Do you really think there aren't dozens of current Major Leaguers who spent 6+ seasons in the minor leagues? Because that's kind of the point you're making right there.
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Out of college? Yeah. I think so. There's a significant difference between players out of college & high school when we're talking about this.

[Ace]

<!--quoteo(post=33185:date=Apr 25 2009, 09:51 PM:name=Kid)-->QUOTE (Kid @ Apr 25 2009, 09:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33184:date=Apr 25 2009, 09:48 PM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Apr 25 2009, 09:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33183:date=Apr 25 2009, 09:47 PM:name=Kid)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid @ Apr 25 2009, 09:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->This is Jake Fox's 7th minor league season. He has appeared in 7 major league games. If that's not a career minor leaguer, I don't know what is.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Do you really think there aren't dozens of current Major Leaguers who spent 6+ seasons in the minor leagues? Because that's kind of the point you're making right there.
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Out of college? Yeah. I think so. There's a significant difference between players out of college & high school when we're talking about this.
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That is definitely a fair distinction - though I bet there are still dozens (or, that is to say... more than 12).

[Ace]

(I miss these little spats...)

[ruby23]

<!--quoteo(post=33184:date=Apr 25 2009, 08:48 PM:name=Ace)-->QUOTE (Ace @ Apr 25 2009, 08:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33183:date=Apr 25 2009, 09:47 PM:name=Kid)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid @ Apr 25 2009, 09:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->This is Jake Fox's 7th minor league season. He has appeared in 7 major league games. If that's not a career minor leaguer, I don't know what is.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Do you really think there aren't dozens of current Major Leaguers who spent 6+ seasons in the minor leagues? Because that's kind of the point you're making right there.
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7 years in the minors, after a college career, that went on to be good MLB players? I'd bet that number is extremely low.

[Ace]

<!--quoteo(post=33188:date=Apr 25 2009, 09:59 PM:name=ruby23)-->QUOTE (ruby23 @ Apr 25 2009, 09:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33184:date=Apr 25 2009, 08:48 PM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Apr 25 2009, 08:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33183:date=Apr 25 2009, 09:47 PM:name=Kid)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid @ Apr 25 2009, 09:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->This is Jake Fox's 7th minor league season. He has appeared in 7 major league games. If that's not a career minor leaguer, I don't know what is.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Do you really think there aren't dozens of current Major Leaguers who spent 6+ seasons in the minor leagues? Because that's kind of the point you're making right there.
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7 years in the minors, after a college career, that went on to be good MLB players? I'd bet that number is extremely low.
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You mean that went on to be an <i>adequate </i>right-handed half of a platoon and bench player?

[ruby23]

<!--quoteo(post=33189:date=Apr 25 2009, 09:01 PM:name=Ace)-->QUOTE (Ace @ Apr 25 2009, 09:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33188:date=Apr 25 2009, 09:59 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Apr 25 2009, 09:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33184:date=Apr 25 2009, 08:48 PM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Apr 25 2009, 08:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33183:date=Apr 25 2009, 09:47 PM:name=Kid)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid @ Apr 25 2009, 09:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->This is Jake Fox's 7th minor league season. He has appeared in 7 major league games. If that's not a career minor leaguer, I don't know what is.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Do you really think there aren't dozens of current Major Leaguers who spent 6+ seasons in the minor leagues? Because that's kind of the point you're making right there.
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7 years in the minors, after a college career, that went on to be good MLB players? I'd bet that number is extremely low.
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You mean that went on to be an <i>adequate </i>right-handed half of a platoon and bench player?
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I bet it's the same answer.

[Ace]

<!--quoteo(post=33188:date=Apr 25 2009, 09:59 PM:name=ruby23)-->QUOTE (ruby23 @ Apr 25 2009, 09:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33184:date=Apr 25 2009, 08:48 PM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Apr 25 2009, 08:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33183:date=Apr 25 2009, 09:47 PM:name=Kid)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid @ Apr 25 2009, 09:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->This is Jake Fox's 7th minor league season. He has appeared in 7 major league games. If that's not a career minor leaguer, I don't know what is.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Do you really think there aren't dozens of current Major Leaguers who spent 6+ seasons in the minor leagues? Because that's kind of the point you're making right there.
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7 years in the minors, after a college career, that went on to be good MLB players? I'd bet that number is extremely low.
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And by the way, it's currently 6 minor league years, not 7.

And if the question is find a starting-calibre major leaguer on a contender that spent the majority of 6 seasons in the minors after a college career... you don't have to look any further than both members of the starting middle infield for your very own team.

It happens.

[ruby23]

<!--quoteo(post=33192:date=Apr 25 2009, 09:14 PM:name=Ace)-->QUOTE (Ace @ Apr 25 2009, 09:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33188:date=Apr 25 2009, 09:59 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Apr 25 2009, 09:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33184:date=Apr 25 2009, 08:48 PM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Apr 25 2009, 08:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33183:date=Apr 25 2009, 09:47 PM:name=Kid)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid @ Apr 25 2009, 09:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->This is Jake Fox's 7th minor league season. He has appeared in 7 major league games. If that's not a career minor leaguer, I don't know what is.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Do you really think there aren't dozens of current Major Leaguers who spent 6+ seasons in the minor leagues? Because that's kind of the point you're making right there.
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7 years in the minors, after a college career, that went on to be good MLB players? I'd bet that number is extremely low.
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And by the way, it's currently 6 minor league years, not 7.

And if the question is find a starting-calibre major leaguer on a contender that spent the majority of 6 seasons in the minors after a college career... you don't have to look any further than both members of the starting middle infield for your very own team.

It happens.
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But you fail to realize that Jake Fox isn't an MLB caliber player.

[Kid]

<!--quoteo(post=33192:date=Apr 25 2009, 10:14 PM:name=Ace)-->QUOTE (Ace @ Apr 25 2009, 10:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33188:date=Apr 25 2009, 09:59 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Apr 25 2009, 09:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33184:date=Apr 25 2009, 08:48 PM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Apr 25 2009, 08:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33183:date=Apr 25 2009, 09:47 PM:name=Kid)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid @ Apr 25 2009, 09:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->This is Jake Fox's 7th minor league season. He has appeared in 7 major league games. If that's not a career minor leaguer, I don't know what is.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Do you really think there aren't dozens of current Major Leaguers who spent 6+ seasons in the minor leagues? Because that's kind of the point you're making right there.
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7 years in the minors, after a college career, that went on to be good MLB players? I'd bet that number is extremely low.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

And by the way, it's currently 6 minor league years, not 7.

And if the question is find a starting-calibre major leaguer on a contender that spent the majority of 6 seasons in the minors after a college career... you don't have to look any further than both members of the starting middle infield for your very own team.

It happens.
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You're glossing over distinctions and you know it. This is Fox's 7th minor league season. If you're going to say it's been "6 years," then you can't say "well, it was 6 seasons for Theriot and Fontenot." That's being intellectually dishonest. Either it was 6 seasons for them & 7 seasons (and counting) for Fox or 5 years for them & 6 years (and counting) for Fox. Not 6 seasons for them & 6 years for Fox.

Second of all, it was in that 5th year/6th season that both became established major leaguers. That ship has sailed for Fox.

[Ace]

<!--quoteo(post=33194:date=Apr 25 2009, 10:21 PM:name=Kid)-->QUOTE (Kid @ Apr 25 2009, 10:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33192:date=Apr 25 2009, 10:14 PM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Apr 25 2009, 10:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33188:date=Apr 25 2009, 09:59 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Apr 25 2009, 09:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33184:date=Apr 25 2009, 08:48 PM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Apr 25 2009, 08:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33183:date=Apr 25 2009, 09:47 PM:name=Kid)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid @ Apr 25 2009, 09:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->This is Jake Fox's 7th minor league season. He has appeared in 7 major league games. If that's not a career minor leaguer, I don't know what is.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Do you really think there aren't dozens of current Major Leaguers who spent 6+ seasons in the minor leagues? Because that's kind of the point you're making right there.
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7 years in the minors, after a college career, that went on to be good MLB players? I'd bet that number is extremely low.
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And by the way, it's currently 6 minor league years, not 7.

And if the question is find a starting-calibre major leaguer on a contender that spent the majority of 6 seasons in the minors after a college career... you don't have to look any further than both members of the starting middle infield for your very own team.

It happens.
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You're glossing over distinctions and you know it. This is Fox's 7th minor league season. If you're going to say it's been "6 years," then you can't say "well, it was 6 seasons for Theriot and Fontenot." That's being intellectually dishonest. Either it was 6 seasons for them & 7 seasons (and counting) for Fox or 5 years for them & 6 years (and counting) for Fox. Not 6 seasons for them & 6 years for Fox.

Second of all, it was in that 5th year/6th season that both became established major leaguers. That ship has sailed for Fox.
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Oh COME ON, dude. I bust out a ridiculous double-example that is right in all of our faces, and you're going to split hairs and say the ship has sailed on Fox because of ONE SEASON? Give me a break.

[Kid]

<!--quoteo(post=33195:date=Apr 25 2009, 10:25 PM:name=Ace)-->QUOTE (Ace @ Apr 25 2009, 10:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33194:date=Apr 25 2009, 10:21 PM:name=Kid)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid @ Apr 25 2009, 10:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33192:date=Apr 25 2009, 10:14 PM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Apr 25 2009, 10:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33188:date=Apr 25 2009, 09:59 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Apr 25 2009, 09:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33184:date=Apr 25 2009, 08:48 PM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Apr 25 2009, 08:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33183:date=Apr 25 2009, 09:47 PM:name=Kid)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid @ Apr 25 2009, 09:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->This is Jake Fox's 7th minor league season. He has appeared in 7 major league games. If that's not a career minor leaguer, I don't know what is.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Do you really think there aren't dozens of current Major Leaguers who spent 6+ seasons in the minor leagues? Because that's kind of the point you're making right there.
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7 years in the minors, after a college career, that went on to be good MLB players? I'd bet that number is extremely low.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

And by the way, it's currently 6 minor league years, not 7.

And if the question is find a starting-calibre major leaguer on a contender that spent the majority of 6 seasons in the minors after a college career... you don't have to look any further than both members of the starting middle infield for your very own team.

It happens.
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You're glossing over distinctions and you know it. This is Fox's 7th minor league season. If you're going to say it's been "6 years," then you can't say "well, it was 6 seasons for Theriot and Fontenot." That's being intellectually dishonest. Either it was 6 seasons for them & 7 seasons (and counting) for Fox or 5 years for them & 6 years (and counting) for Fox. Not 6 seasons for them & 6 years for Fox.

Second of all, it was in that 5th year/6th season that both became established major leaguers. That ship has sailed for Fox.
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Oh COME ON, dude. I bust out a ridiculous double-example that is right in all of our faces, and you're going to split hairs and say the ship has sailed on Fox because of ONE SEASON? Give me a break.
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Um yes. We're not talking about 100 years here. 1 year is a big difference.

[ruby23]

Ace, your double example doesn't matter when the guy you're trying to compare to your double example is not an MLB caliber player.

[Kid]

<b>April 24:</b>


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Iowa (11-6)        3  8  0
Nashville (10-7)   6  8  0
WP: Chris Smith (1-0)
LP: Jason Waddell (0-1)
HR: IOW - Jake Fox (9); NSH - Mat Gamel (6)

Jose Ascanio: GS, 4.0 IP, 0 R, 0 ER (0.54 ERA), 2 H, 2 BB, 4 K
Jesse Estrada: 2.0 IP, 3 R, 3 ER (9.58 ERA), 2 H, 2 BB, 1 K
Fox: 2-3 (.438), 2B (7), 2 RBI (27), R, BB, K<!--c2--><!--ec2-->


<!--c1-->CODE<!--ec1-->                  R  H  E
Carolina (6-10)   0  7  2
Tennessee (8-7)   5  12 0
WP: Casey Lambert (1-1)
LP: Dallas Buck (2-1)

Lambert: GS, 6.0 IP, 0 R, 0 ER (1.80 ERA), 3 H, 0 BB, 2 K, HBP
Matt Camp: 2-4 (.343), 2B (2), RBI (5), 2 R
Tony Thomas: 2-4 (.364), 2B (2), R, K<!--c2--><!--ec2-->


<!--c1-->CODE<!--ec1-->                 R  H  E
Lakeland (7-8)   3  7  0
Daytona (7-8)    6  4  0
WP: James Leverton (1-1)
LP: Charles Furbush (1-1)
SV: David Cales (1)
HR: DAY - Marquez Smith (5)

Leverton: GS, 6.0 IP, 1 R, 1 ER (5.79 ERA), 2 H, 2 BB, 4 K
Smith: 1-2 (.293), 2 RBI (18), 2 R, BB, K
Robinson Chirinos: 1-3 (.273), 3B (2), 3 RBI (6), K<!--c2--><!--ec2-->


<!--c1-->CODE<!--ec1-->                     R  H  E
Cedar Rapids (9-6)   5  12 0
Peoria (6-8)         6  8  2
WP: Marcus Hatley (1-0)
LP: Kevin Nabors (0-3)
SV: Ryan Buchter (2)
HR: CR - Gabriel Jacobo (1); PEO - Josh Vitters (1), Nelson Perez (2)

Hatley: GS, 5.0 IP, 4 R, 4 ER (5.25 ERA), 8 H, 1 BB, 2 K, WP
Kyler Burke: 2-3 (.297), 2B (6), 2 RBI (6), R, BB
Josh Harrison: 2-4 (.327), R, K, SB (4)<!--c2--><!--ec2-->