Injury Log on the Big 3

[Butcher]

<!--quoteo(post=35317:date=May 4 2009, 11:26 AM:name=PcB)-->QUOTE (PcB @ May 4 2009, 11:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=35313:date=May 4 2009, 11:11 AM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ May 4 2009, 11:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=35311:date=May 4 2009, 11:06 AM:name=PcB)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PcB @ May 4 2009, 11:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=35310:date=May 4 2009, 11:04 AM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ May 4 2009, 11:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Anyway, I'm officially done bitching about DeRosa. What's done is done. I'll try my best not to think about this trade every time Bradley or Ramirez hit the DL or Aaron Miles comes to the plate in a crucial situation.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm glad you stopped bitching about DeRosa and started bitching about the person who's playing instead of him. Why not just keep bitching about DeRosa then?
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Because DeRosa is on the Indians now. Miles is on the Cubs.
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Things have been that way all season...
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You're right.

[PcB]

<!--quoteo(post=35318:date=May 4 2009, 11:29 AM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ May 4 2009, 11:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=35317:date=May 4 2009, 11:26 AM:name=PcB)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PcB @ May 4 2009, 11:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=35313:date=May 4 2009, 11:11 AM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ May 4 2009, 11:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=35311:date=May 4 2009, 11:06 AM:name=PcB)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PcB @ May 4 2009, 11:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=35310:date=May 4 2009, 11:04 AM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ May 4 2009, 11:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Anyway, I'm officially done bitching about DeRosa. What's done is done. I'll try my best not to think about this trade every time Bradley or Ramirez hit the DL or Aaron Miles comes to the plate in a crucial situation.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm glad you stopped bitching about DeRosa and started bitching about the person who's playing instead of him. Why not just keep bitching about DeRosa then?
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Because DeRosa is on the Indians now. Miles is on the Cubs.
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Things have been that way all season...
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You're right.
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I win?

[Butcher]

<!--quoteo(post=35323:date=May 4 2009, 12:22 PM:name=PcB)-->QUOTE (PcB @ May 4 2009, 12:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=35318:date=May 4 2009, 11:29 AM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ May 4 2009, 11:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=35317:date=May 4 2009, 11:26 AM:name=PcB)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PcB @ May 4 2009, 11:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=35313:date=May 4 2009, 11:11 AM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ May 4 2009, 11:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=35311:date=May 4 2009, 11:06 AM:name=PcB)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PcB @ May 4 2009, 11:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=35310:date=May 4 2009, 11:04 AM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ May 4 2009, 11:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Anyway, I'm officially done bitching about DeRosa. What's done is done. I'll try my best not to think about this trade every time Bradley or Ramirez hit the DL or Aaron Miles comes to the plate in a crucial situation.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm glad you stopped bitching about DeRosa and started bitching about the person who's playing instead of him. Why not just keep bitching about DeRosa then?
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Because DeRosa is on the Indians now. Miles is on the Cubs.
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Things have been that way all season...
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You're right.
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I win?
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If the discussion is whether or not DeRosa has been an Indian and Miles has been a Cub for the entire season, then you win. But I don't think anyone is taking the opposing point of view.

[veryzer]

miles did not replace derosa. derosa was traded to make room for fontenot. miles was signed as a backup.

[Butcher]

<!--quoteo(post=35332:date=May 4 2009, 12:57 PM:name=veryzer)-->QUOTE (veryzer @ May 4 2009, 12:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->miles did not replace derosa. derosa was traded to make room for fontenot. miles was signed as a backup.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
DeRosa and Fontenot were on the same team in 2008. One didn't have to leave to make room for the other.

[veryzer]

<!--quoteo(post=35334:date=May 4 2009, 01:01 PM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ May 4 2009, 01:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=35332:date=May 4 2009, 12:57 PM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ May 4 2009, 12:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->miles did not replace derosa. derosa was traded to make room for fontenot. miles was signed as a backup.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
DeRosa and Fontenot were on the same team in 2008. One didn't have to leave to make room for the other.
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but thats what happened.

[leonardsipes]

Trading DeReso in order to give the starting 2bman job to Fontenot, save 2.5 mil is a defensible move. Until you sign a guy that you have to assume will miss 50+ games.

[PcB]

<!--quoteo(post=35334:date=May 4 2009, 01:01 PM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ May 4 2009, 01:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=35332:date=May 4 2009, 12:57 PM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ May 4 2009, 12:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->miles did not replace derosa. derosa was traded to make room for fontenot. miles was signed as a backup.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
DeRosa and Fontenot were on the same team in 2008. One didn't have to leave to make room for the other.
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If Fontenot was gonna start DeRosa didn't have a place here. Miles was then signed to be a backup. Unless you wanted to have a 5 million dollar backup player.

[Butcher]

<!--quoteo(post=35336:date=May 4 2009, 01:02 PM:name=veryzer)-->QUOTE (veryzer @ May 4 2009, 01:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=35334:date=May 4 2009, 01:01 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ May 4 2009, 01:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=35332:date=May 4 2009, 12:57 PM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ May 4 2009, 12:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->miles did not replace derosa. derosa was traded to make room for fontenot. miles was signed as a backup.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
DeRosa and Fontenot were on the same team in 2008. One didn't have to leave to make room for the other.
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but thats what happened.
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And that's part of the reason why it was stupid.

[Butcher]

<!--quoteo(post=35338:date=May 4 2009, 01:03 PM:name=PcB)-->QUOTE (PcB @ May 4 2009, 01:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=35334:date=May 4 2009, 01:01 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ May 4 2009, 01:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=35332:date=May 4 2009, 12:57 PM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ May 4 2009, 12:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->miles did not replace derosa. derosa was traded to make room for fontenot. miles was signed as a backup.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
DeRosa and Fontenot were on the same team in 2008. One didn't have to leave to make room for the other.
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If Fontenot was gonna start DeRosa didn't have a place here. Miles was then signed to be a backup. Unless you wanted to have a 5 million dollar backup player.
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With Ramirez and Bradley on the team, plus Fontenot not facing LHP, DeRosa would get plenty of ABs.

[PcB]

<!--quoteo(post=35340:date=May 4 2009, 01:04 PM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ May 4 2009, 01:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=35338:date=May 4 2009, 01:03 PM:name=PcB)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PcB @ May 4 2009, 01:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=35334:date=May 4 2009, 01:01 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ May 4 2009, 01:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=35332:date=May 4 2009, 12:57 PM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ May 4 2009, 12:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->miles did not replace derosa. derosa was traded to make room for fontenot. miles was signed as a backup.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
DeRosa and Fontenot were on the same team in 2008. One didn't have to leave to make room for the other.
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If Fontenot was gonna start DeRosa didn't have a place here. Miles was then signed to be a backup. Unless you wanted to have a 5 million dollar backup player.
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With Ramirez and Bradley on the team, plus Fontenot not facing LHP, DeRosa would get plenty of ABs.
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But the money saved on DeRosa helped pay for Bradley.

[Butcher]

<!--quoteo(post=35343:date=May 4 2009, 01:05 PM:name=PcB)-->QUOTE (PcB @ May 4 2009, 01:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=35340:date=May 4 2009, 01:04 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ May 4 2009, 01:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=35338:date=May 4 2009, 01:03 PM:name=PcB)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PcB @ May 4 2009, 01:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=35334:date=May 4 2009, 01:01 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ May 4 2009, 01:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=35332:date=May 4 2009, 12:57 PM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ May 4 2009, 12:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->miles did not replace derosa. derosa was traded to make room for fontenot. miles was signed as a backup.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
DeRosa and Fontenot were on the same team in 2008. One didn't have to leave to make room for the other.
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If Fontenot was gonna start DeRosa didn't have a place here. Miles was then signed to be a backup. Unless you wanted to have a 5 million dollar backup player.
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With Ramirez and Bradley on the team, plus Fontenot not facing LHP, DeRosa would get plenty of ABs.
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But the money saved on DeRosa helped pay for Bradley.
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$2.5M didn't make a difference in Bradley's contract. Now you're just being a douche.

[veryzer]

<!--quoteo(post=35339:date=May 4 2009, 01:03 PM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ May 4 2009, 01:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=35336:date=May 4 2009, 01:02 PM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ May 4 2009, 01:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=35334:date=May 4 2009, 01:01 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ May 4 2009, 01:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=35332:date=May 4 2009, 12:57 PM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ May 4 2009, 12:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->miles did not replace derosa. derosa was traded to make room for fontenot. miles was signed as a backup.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
DeRosa and Fontenot were on the same team in 2008. One didn't have to leave to make room for the other.
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but thats what happened.
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And that's part of the reason why it was stupid.
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and i wasn't arguing the stupidity of the move, only that miles wasn't brought here to replace derosa, which he wasn't. i was arguing with brock.

[PcB]

<!--quoteo(post=35344:date=May 4 2009, 01:08 PM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ May 4 2009, 01:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=35343:date=May 4 2009, 01:05 PM:name=PcB)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PcB @ May 4 2009, 01:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=35340:date=May 4 2009, 01:04 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ May 4 2009, 01:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=35338:date=May 4 2009, 01:03 PM:name=PcB)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PcB @ May 4 2009, 01:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=35334:date=May 4 2009, 01:01 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ May 4 2009, 01:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=35332:date=May 4 2009, 12:57 PM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ May 4 2009, 12:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->miles did not replace derosa. derosa was traded to make room for fontenot. miles was signed as a backup.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
DeRosa and Fontenot were on the same team in 2008. One didn't have to leave to make room for the other.
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If Fontenot was gonna start DeRosa didn't have a place here. Miles was then signed to be a backup. Unless you wanted to have a 5 million dollar backup player.
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With Ramirez and Bradley on the team, plus Fontenot not facing LHP, DeRosa would get plenty of ABs.
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But the money saved on DeRosa helped pay for Bradley.
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$2.5M didn't make a difference in Bradley's contract. Now you're just being a douche.
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Isn't the explanation Hendry gave for getting rid of DeRosa and Wood?

and why are people complaining about DeRosa and not Wood? As far as I can tell our bullpen is dog ass right now. If anything Wood has been missed more by the Cubs then DeRosa.

[alpha]

<!--quoteo(post=35337:date=May 4 2009, 12:02 PM:name=leonardsipes)-->QUOTE (leonardsipes @ May 4 2009, 12:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Trading DeReso in order to give the starting 2bman job to Fontenot, save 2.5 mil is a defensible move. Until you sign a guy that you have to assume will miss 50+ games.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Hoffpauir will be taking the majority of at bats in the OF when Bradley gets injured. And IMO he is at least as good an offensive player as DeRosa, if not slightly better than him.