Dawson and the HOF

[Butcher]

I'm assuming Dawson is getting in this year. His percentage was pretty close last year and he has gained every year since being on the ballot.

So, with that assumption, what hat will he be wearing on his plaque? Expos or Cubs?

[PcB]

Numbers wise Expos. Feelings wise Cubs. Just my guess on how he feels, but he'll go in as an Expo.

[ruby23]

He shouldn't be in the HOF. He should be in the Hall of Very Good, but not the Hall of Fame.

[Butcher]

<!--quoteo(post=74129:date=Jan 5 2010, 02:21 PM:name=ruby23)-->QUOTE (ruby23 @ Jan 5 2010, 02:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->He shouldn't be in the HOF. He should be in the Hall of Very Good, but not the Hall of Fame.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It's OK for you to have that opinion, but that wasn't the question. He's going to get in.

[PcB]

<!--quoteo(post=74129:date=Jan 5 2010, 02:21 PM:name=ruby23)-->QUOTE (ruby23 @ Jan 5 2010, 02:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->He shouldn't be in the HOF. He should be in the Hall of Very Good, but not the Hall of Fame.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Bite your tongue.

[ruby23]

<!--quoteo(post=74131:date=Jan 5 2010, 02:23 PM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Jan 5 2010, 02:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=74129:date=Jan 5 2010, 02:21 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Jan 5 2010, 02:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->He shouldn't be in the HOF. He should be in the Hall of Very Good, but not the Hall of Fame.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It's OK for you to have that opinion, but that wasn't the question. He's going to get in.
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I think he's wearing a Red Sox hat then.

[Kid]

He'd always said he'd wear a Cubs hat.

[Butcher]

<!--quoteo(post=74134:date=Jan 5 2010, 02:24 PM:name=Kid)-->QUOTE (Kid @ Jan 5 2010, 02:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->He'd always said he'd wear a Cubs hat.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
But it isn't his choice.

[Kid]

<!--quoteo(post=74136:date=Jan 5 2010, 03:26 PM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Jan 5 2010, 03:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=74134:date=Jan 5 2010, 02:24 PM:name=Kid)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid @ Jan 5 2010, 02:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->He'd always said he'd wear a Cubs hat.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
But it isn't his choice.
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It more or less is. The HOF generally defers to the player unless they choose something that is clearly inappropriate (like if Maddux tried to go in as a Dodger or Padre).

[Butcher]

<!--quoteo(post=74138:date=Jan 5 2010, 02:30 PM:name=Kid)-->QUOTE (Kid @ Jan 5 2010, 02:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=74136:date=Jan 5 2010, 03:26 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Jan 5 2010, 03:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=74134:date=Jan 5 2010, 02:24 PM:name=Kid)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid @ Jan 5 2010, 02:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->He'd always said he'd wear a Cubs hat.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
But it isn't his choice.
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It more or less is. The HOF generally defers to the player unless they choose something that is clearly inappropriate (like if Maddux tried to go in as a Dodger or Padre).
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Yeah. I just looked it up. It sounds like the player can strongly influence the decision.

<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->In 2001, the Hall of Fame decided to change the policy on cap logo selection, as a result of rumors that some teams were offering compensation, such as number retirement, money, or organizational jobs, in exchange for the cap designation. (For example, though Wade Boggs denied the claims, some media reports had said that his contract with the Tampa Bay Devil Rays required him to request depiction in the Hall of Fame as a Devil Ray). The Hall decided that it would no longer defer to the inductee, though the player's wishes would be considered, when deciding on the logo to appear on the plaque. Newly elected members affected by the change include the following:

* Gary Carter: Inducted in 2003, Carter was the first player to be affected by the new policy. Carter won his only championship with the 1986 New York Mets, and wanted his induction plaque to depict him wearing a Mets cap, even though he had spent twelve years (1974–84, 1992) with the Montreal Expos and only five (1985–89) with the Mets. The Hall of Fame decided that his plaque would instead show Carter with an Expos cap.

* Wade Boggs: Boggs's only championship was as a member of the 1996 New York Yankees, for whom he played from 1993–97, but his best career numbers were posted during his eleven years (1982–92) wearing the Boston Red Sox uniform. Boggs would eventually be depicted wearing a Boston cap for his 2005 induction, despite his acrimonious relationship with Red Sox management.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

[Coldneck]

Cubs hat definitely.

[Fella]

Dawson had 5 all-star appearances and his lone MVP as a Cub as opposed to 3 All-star appearances and 0 MVPs as an Expo. So despite less years as a Cub I don't think there would be any disputes if he wants to go in as a Cub like he has said.

[rok]

I hope he gets in for selfish reasons because he is one of my favorites of all time, but I wouldn't be shocked if he didn't get elected.

[VanSlawAndCottoCheese]

Hell be wearing a Cubs hat and Expos knee braces.

[VanSlawAndCottoCheese]

<!--quoteo(post=74129:date=Jan 5 2010, 03:21 PM:name=ruby23)-->QUOTE (ruby23 @ Jan 5 2010, 03:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->He shouldn't be in the HOF. He should be in the Hall of Very Good, but not the Hall of Fame.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I've never understood why people chose "Hall of Very Good" as HOF near misses. The term is Hall of Fame, not Hall of Great. Shouldn't the Honorable Mention term be something like "Hall of Considerably Noteworthy" or something?