Starlin

[funkster]

Ah Ronny Cedeno...how we miss thee.

[VanSlawAndCottoCheese]

<!--quoteo(post=81962:date=Mar 8 2010, 01:04 PM:name=Ace)-->QUOTE (Ace @ Mar 8 2010, 01:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=81958:date=Mar 8 2010, 11:41 AM:name=Qalex1)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Qalex1 @ Mar 8 2010, 11:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->FYI about not ending a sentence with a preposition, Winston Churchill once said "This is the sort of bloody nonsense up with which I will not put." It's not actually a rule. Sorry Ace.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

"Rules" are only as applicable as the governing body that espouses them. When it comes to grammar and style, there are no "rules," because there are a number of bodies. But for every one that you could find that would not designate the no-preposition-to-end-a-sentence thing as a "rule," I imagine I could find one that would.

That all said, the prevailing view is that you only honor that "rule" where it wouldn't make the meaning of the sentence more confusing. So I agree.
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Ah, the "don't end a sentence with a preposition" rule: one of the biggest scams perpetrated on English grammar by a few tweedy Latin lovers (perhaps originally just one grammarian at first). Latin has case endings on nouns that signal that the nouns are objects of nearby prepositions. English does not. The whole "rule" forbidding prepositions and their objects from straying can probably be traced to some curmudgeonly transcriber with his knickers in a wad, probably a Cardinals fan centuries before his time.

[ruby23]

If the Cubs still had Cedeno at SS yesterday, Zambrano may not have imploded . . .

[Destined]

<!--quoteo(post=86545:date=Apr 6 2010, 12:31 PM:name=ruby23)-->QUOTE (ruby23 @ Apr 6 2010, 12:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->If the Cubs still had Cedeno at SS yesterday, Zambrano may not have imploded . . .<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I was thinking Bradley could have calmed Z down too.

[Coach]

<!--quoteo(post=86545:date=Apr 6 2010, 03:31 PM:name=ruby23)-->QUOTE (ruby23 @ Apr 6 2010, 03:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->If the Cubs still had Cedeno at SS yesterday, Zambrano may not have imploded . . .<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
That's the truth.

[rok]

Regardless of what may have been, it should be pretty clear to even the biggest Theriot fans out there, that he isn't even close to being an acceptable SS on a serious playoff contender. If we are out of it by the summer, big changes need to happen up the middle.

[1060Ivy]

<!--quoteo(post=86550:date=Apr 6 2010, 02:40 PM:name=rok)-->QUOTE (rok @ Apr 6 2010, 02:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Regardless of what may have been, it should be pretty clear to even the biggest Theriot fans out there, that he isn't even close to being an acceptable SS on a serious playoff contender. If we are out of it by the summer, big changes need to happen up the middle.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Cubs won't be out of it by mid-summer. This team may not be a serious NLCS contender but they shouldn't be too far from contending for a wildcard spot.

[VanSlawAndCottoCheese]

I wonder what the Rangers (read: anybody, as I know the Rangers have Andrus and Kinsler) would have given for Theriot?

[Destined]

<!--quoteo(post=86551:date=Apr 6 2010, 12:43 PM:name=1060Ivy)-->QUOTE (1060Ivy @ Apr 6 2010, 12:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=86550:date=Apr 6 2010, 02:40 PM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Apr 6 2010, 02:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Regardless of what may have been, it should be pretty clear to even the biggest Theriot fans out there, that he isn't even close to being an acceptable SS on a serious playoff contender. If we are out of it by the summer, big changes need to happen up the middle.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Cubs won't be out of it by mid-summer. This team may not be a serious NLCS contender but they shouldn't be too far from contending for a wildcard spot.
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Was the game blacked out for you yesterday?

[1060Ivy]

<!--quoteo(post=86553:date=Apr 6 2010, 02:45 PM:name=Destined)-->QUOTE (Destined @ Apr 6 2010, 02:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=86551:date=Apr 6 2010, 12:43 PM:name=1060Ivy)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (1060Ivy @ Apr 6 2010, 12:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=86550:date=Apr 6 2010, 02:40 PM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Apr 6 2010, 02:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Regardless of what may have been, it should be pretty clear to even the biggest Theriot fans out there, that he isn't even close to being an acceptable SS on a serious playoff contender. If we are out of it by the summer, big changes need to happen up the middle.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Cubs won't be out of it by mid-summer. This team may not be a serious NLCS contender but they shouldn't be too far from contending for a wildcard spot.
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Was the game blacked out for you yesterday?
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Nope I was able to watch it but shut it down after Shark's departure.

It seemed like every flaw the Cubs team has was exposed yesterday. In addition, every bit of good fortune seemed to go the Braves way. That's not going to happen every game.

Baring injury, this team should be a 500 team with a relatively easy schedule in the first half of the year. By end of May, I expect them to be 4 - 6 games over 500 with lots of fans joining the bandwagon. Hopefully, they can make some deals in June/July and actually become a real serious threat.

[rok]

4-6 games over .500 isn't gonna cut it with the Cards in our division, but that's just my opinion.

[1060Ivy]

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Agreed but if they are over 500 in May, Ricketts/Hendry will start making deals which may improve the team to the point where they can compete with Cards/wild card spot.

Wouldn't underestimate the momentum gained by having a relative easy schedule in the first half of the season.

[Destined]

<!--quoteo(post=86558:date=Apr 6 2010, 01:03 PM:name=1060Ivy)-->QUOTE (1060Ivy @ Apr 6 2010, 01:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Wouldn't underestimate the momentum gained by having a relative easy schedule in the first half of the season.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It prolongs the agony.

[rok]

<!--quoteo(post=86558:date=Apr 6 2010, 03:03 PM:name=1060Ivy)-->QUOTE (1060Ivy @ Apr 6 2010, 03:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=86557:date=Apr 6 2010, 02:56 PM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Apr 6 2010, 02:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->4-6 games over .500 isn't gonna cut it with the Cards in our division, but that's just my opinion.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Agreed but if they are over 500 in May, Ricketts/Hendry will start making deals which may improve the team to the point where they can compete with Cards/wild card spot.

Wouldn't underestimate the momentum gained by having a relative easy schedule in the first half of the season.
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Once we win a game or two, I will probably change my mind. Right now, I'm Mr. Negativity.

[1060Ivy]

<!--quoteo(post=86561:date=Apr 6 2010, 03:11 PM:name=Destined)-->QUOTE (Destined @ Apr 6 2010, 03:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=86558:date=Apr 6 2010, 01:03 PM:name=1060Ivy)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (1060Ivy @ Apr 6 2010, 01:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Wouldn't underestimate the momentum gained by having a relative easy schedule in the first half of the season.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It prolongs the agony.
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On the other hand - if Cubs suck by mid-May don't worry about games for the remainder of the year.