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He'd have left over anything less?
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He would have probably taken less, but hell, good for him.
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I'm not against anyone getting a pay day, good for him. But any GM that pays more than he has to for a player is an idiot.
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We'll never know what Yankee/Red Sox contracts for Mauer would have looked like, and I'm sure they would have bid against each other considering their lack of catchers in the future. Did the Twins overpay? Yes, they did. But at the same time, the Twins needed to keep him.
I would have offered 6 years at $117M ($18M in 2011-2014, $22.5M team options for 2015-2016).
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Your offer is much more reasonable.
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I am never sure if a contract like that creates a ton of pressure or alleviates it.
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<!--quoteo(post=83796:date=Mar 22 2010, 12:23 AM:name=Destined)-->QUOTE (Destined @ Mar 22 2010, 12:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=83734:date=Mar 21 2010, 07:43 PM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Mar 21 2010, 07:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=83720:date=Mar 21 2010, 09:21 PM:name=Destined)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Destined @ Mar 21 2010, 09:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=83711:date=Mar 21 2010, 06:22 PM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Mar 21 2010, 06:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=83710:date=Mar 21 2010, 08:17 PM:name=Destined)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Destined @ Mar 21 2010, 08:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Twins had to do it. He's the hometown kid, so there was noway they weren't going to take care of him.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
He'd have left over anything less?
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He would have probably taken less, but hell, good for him.
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I'm not against anyone getting a pay day, good for him. But any GM that pays more than he has to for a player is an idiot.
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We'll never know what Yankee/Red Sox contracts for Mauer would have looked like, and I'm sure they would have bid against each other considering their lack of catchers in the future. Did the Twins overpay? Yes, they did. But at the same time, the Twins needed to keep him.
I would have offered 6 years at $117M ($18M in 2011-2014, $22.5M team options for 2015-2016).
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I bet the Twins are sitting at home pissed that they did not have you conducting the negotiations.
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Remember how happy we were that the twins chose Mauer over Prior? *sigh*
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<!--quoteo(post=83822:date=Mar 22 2010, 07:11 AM:name=veryzer)-->QUOTE (veryzer @ Mar 22 2010, 07:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Remember how happy we were that the twins chose Mauer over Prior? *sigh*<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I think about that all the time Tom...so disheartening that Prior's "perfect" mechanics and Dusty ruined him [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif[/img]
As for the contract, it is a lot of money, but Mauer is AMAZING and just now hitting his prime. Like someone said, he plays in the AL so he can DH. Could they regret years 6, 7, & 8...sure....but years 1-5 are likely to be great for them and for Mauer.
As for Pujols, with A-Rod's contract a couple years ago and now with Mauer's, he has GOT to be looking at 30 million a year!
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<!--quoteo(post=83822:date=Mar 22 2010, 07:11 AM:name=veryzer)-->QUOTE (veryzer @ Mar 22 2010, 07:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Remember how happy we were that the twins chose Mauer over Prior? *sigh*<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It was much less painful when it looked like Soto was going to be a star.
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<!--quoteo(post=83897:date=Mar 22 2010, 12:08 PM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Mar 22 2010, 12:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=83822:date=Mar 22 2010, 07:11 AM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Mar 22 2010, 07:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Remember how happy we were that the twins chose Mauer over Prior? *sigh*<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It was much less painful when it looked like Soto was going to be a star.
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Even though we would not have taken Mauer with the second pick, we would have taken Teixiera.
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It's absurd how much money this guys make... Mauer will be making around 37G a day, can you imagine that? making almost 2 million every month for 8 years? shit!
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<!--quoteo(post=83977:date=Mar 22 2010, 04:52 PM:name=Bricklayer)-->QUOTE (Bricklayer @ Mar 22 2010, 04:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=83897:date=Mar 22 2010, 12:08 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Mar 22 2010, 12:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=83822:date=Mar 22 2010, 07:11 AM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Mar 22 2010, 07:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Remember how happy we were that the twins chose Mauer over Prior? *sigh*<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It was much less painful when it looked like Soto was going to be a star.
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Even though we would not have taken Mauer with the second pick, we would have taken Teixiera.
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I proooooooobably wouldn't have complained about that outcome either.
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It was much less painful when it looked like Soto was going to be a star.
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Even though we would not have taken Mauer with the second pick, we would have taken Teixiera.
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I proooooooobably wouldn't have complained about that outcome either.
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Right... But we wouldn't have been able to keep him past 08, and Derrek Lee's been terrific, and even better than Teixeira a couple of seasons.
Really, there's no reason to complain about anything the Cubs did. They made the right pick by taking arguably the best pitcher out of college since Roger Clemens, and the guy was already a top-5 pitcher in the league soon after. It's just like the Nats absolutely made the right decision in taking Strasburg, even if he ruins his arm in a couple years like Prior did. Just bad Cubs luck. I'm sure Mauer would've sucked in a Cubs uniform anyway.
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<!--quoteo(post=84034:date=Mar 22 2010, 07:30 PM:name=Clapp)-->QUOTE (Clapp @ Mar 22 2010, 07:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=84032:date=Mar 22 2010, 05:24 PM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Mar 22 2010, 05:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=83977:date=Mar 22 2010, 04:52 PM:name=Bricklayer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bricklayer @ Mar 22 2010, 04:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=83897:date=Mar 22 2010, 12:08 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Mar 22 2010, 12:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=83822:date=Mar 22 2010, 07:11 AM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Mar 22 2010, 07:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Remember how happy we were that the twins chose Mauer over Prior? *sigh*<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It was much less painful when it looked like Soto was going to be a star.
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Even though we would not have taken Mauer with the second pick, we would have taken Teixiera.
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I proooooooobably wouldn't have complained about that outcome either.
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Right... But we wouldn't have been able to keep him past 08, and Derrek Lee's been terrific, and even better than Teixeira a couple of seasons.
Really, there's no reason to complain about anything the Cubs did. They made the right pick by taking arguably the best pitcher out of college since Roger Clemens, and the guy was already a top-5 pitcher in the league soon after. It's just like the Nats absolutely made the right decision in taking Strasburg, even if he ruins his arm in a couple years like Prior did. Just bad Cubs luck. I'm sure Mauer would've sucked in a Cubs uniform anyway.
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Wait, are you saying, with the benefit of hindsight as to health and development, you wouldn't have preferred the Cubs draft Teixiera? I would, like whoa.
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It was much less painful when it looked like Soto was going to be a star.
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Even though we would not have taken Mauer with the second pick, we would have taken Teixiera.
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I proooooooobably wouldn't have complained about that outcome either.
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Right... But we wouldn't have been able to keep him past 08, and Derrek Lee's been terrific, and even better than Teixeira a couple of seasons.
Really, there's no reason to complain about anything the Cubs did. They made the right pick by taking arguably the best pitcher out of college since Roger Clemens, and the guy was already a top-5 pitcher in the league soon after. It's just like the Nats absolutely made the right decision in taking Strasburg, even if he ruins his arm in a couple years like Prior did. Just bad Cubs luck. I'm sure Mauer would've sucked in a Cubs uniform anyway.
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Wait, are you saying, with the benefit of hindsight as to health and development, you wouldn't have preferred the Cubs draft Teixiera? I would, like whoa.
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Just saying that we probably wouldn't have any WS rings anyway. But I'm pretty sure we could have 14 Pujolses and 11 Lincecums, and still wouldn't.
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<!--quoteo(post=84034:date=Mar 22 2010, 06:30 PM:name=Clapp)-->QUOTE (Clapp @ Mar 22 2010, 06:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=84032:date=Mar 22 2010, 05:24 PM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Mar 22 2010, 05:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=83977:date=Mar 22 2010, 04:52 PM:name=Bricklayer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bricklayer @ Mar 22 2010, 04:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=83897:date=Mar 22 2010, 12:08 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Mar 22 2010, 12:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=83822:date=Mar 22 2010, 07:11 AM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Mar 22 2010, 07:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Remember how happy we were that the twins chose Mauer over Prior? *sigh*<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It was much less painful when it looked like Soto was going to be a star.
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Even though we would not have taken Mauer with the second pick, we would have taken Teixiera.
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I proooooooobably wouldn't have complained about that outcome either.
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Right... But we wouldn't have been able to keep him past 08, and Derrek Lee's been terrific, and even better than Teixeira a couple of seasons.
Really, there's no reason to complain about anything the Cubs did. They made the right pick by taking arguably the best pitcher out of college since Roger Clemens, and the guy was already a top-5 pitcher in the league soon after. It's just like the Nats absolutely made the right decision in taking Strasburg, even if he ruins his arm in a couple years like Prior did. Just bad Cubs luck. I'm sure Mauer would've sucked in a Cubs uniform anyway.
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Oh, the Cubs did the right thing, no doubt. Just funny how it turned out.
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It was much less painful when it looked like Soto was going to be a star.
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Even though we would not have taken Mauer with the second pick, we would have taken Teixiera.
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I proooooooobably wouldn't have complained about that outcome either.
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Right... But we wouldn't have been able to keep him past 08, and Derrek Lee's been terrific, and even better than Teixeira a couple of seasons.
Really, there's no reason to complain about anything the Cubs did. They made the right pick by taking arguably the best pitcher out of college since Roger Clemens, and the guy was already a top-5 pitcher in the league soon after. It's just like the Nats absolutely made the right decision in taking Strasburg, even if he ruins his arm in a couple years like Prior did. Just bad Cubs luck. I'm sure Mauer would've sucked in a Cubs uniform anyway.
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Oh, the Cubs did the right thing, no doubt. Just funny how it turned out.
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If by "funny" you mean typically Cub-like and pathetic.
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It was much less painful when it looked like Soto was going to be a star.
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Even though we would not have taken Mauer with the second pick, we would have taken Teixiera.
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I proooooooobably wouldn't have complained about that outcome either.
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Right... But we wouldn't have been able to keep him past 08, and Derrek Lee's been terrific, and even better than Teixeira a couple of seasons.
Really, there's no reason to complain about anything the Cubs did. They made the right pick by taking arguably the best pitcher out of college since Roger Clemens, and the guy was already a top-5 pitcher in the league soon after. It's just like the Nats absolutely made the right decision in taking Strasburg, even if he ruins his arm in a couple years like Prior did. Just bad Cubs luck. I'm sure Mauer would've sucked in a Cubs uniform anyway.
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Oh, the Cubs did the right thing, no doubt. Just funny how it turned out.
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If by "funny" you mean typically Cub-like and pathetic.
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Within the context of the Cubs, is there any other kind of funny?
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