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Do you mean ceiling? Cuz if Martin signs for more than $17/yr, I'd like to see him do so with another team.
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I meant total dollars not AAV.
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5 times the legal amount...yo. Granted I think that's lower there than it is here, but still would be .25 BAC I think.
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But I'm sure he will be lionized by the salt of the earth Cards nation just the same.
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Quote:I meant total dollars not AAV.
Ah. Hmm. What do you think he might command? I suppose I'm being too optimistic about what it would take to sign him. I mean, am I crazy to think that there's no way he signs for anything close to McCann money (5/85)?
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Quote:<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="rok" data-cid="231672" data-time="1415835531">
I meant total dollars not AAV.
Ah. Hmm. What do you think he might command? I suppose I'm being too optimistic about what it would take to sign him. I mean, am I crazy to think that there's no way he signs for anything close to McCann money (5/85)?</blockquote>
I'm thinking 5/75 would probably do it. Not sure if he's worth every penny, but I think if we have to overpay by $5 mil or so it isn't the end of the world.
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And on that note, the Pirates just traded for Cervelli from the Yanks. Methinks they are moving on from Martin already.
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I don't see how Victor Martinez's deal will effect Martin. They are not similar players. One derives his value with defense at a premium defensive position. The other is a DH the derives his value entirely with his bat.
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Quote:And on that note, the Pirates just traded for Cervelli from the Yanks. Methinks they are moving on from Martin already.
Sounds like it, although I'd be a little surprised if they just hand Cervelli a starting job. He's just not very good.
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Quote:<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="rok" data-cid="231684" data-time="1415843815">
And on that note, the Pirates just traded for Cervelli from the Yanks. Methinks they are moving on from Martin already.
Sounds like it, although I'd be a little surprised if they just hand Cervelli a starting job. He's just not very good. </blockquote>
Not so sure about that. OPS+ of 141 and 126 the last couple seasons but a lifetime mark of 97. Maybe he's figured something out? His defense is not on the same level as Martin, but he's 28, so it isn't a bad move for them.
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And on that note, the Pirates just traded for Cervelli from the Yanks. Methinks they are moving on from Martin already.
Sounds like it, although I'd be a little surprised if they just hand Cervelli a starting job. He's just not very good. </blockquote>
Not so sure about that. OPS+ of 141 and 126 the last couple seasons but a lifetime mark of 97. Maybe he's figured something out? His defense is not on the same level as Martin, but he's 28, so it isn't a bad move for them.
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You just quoted 2 seasons in which he was in and out of the lineup due to injuries with 61 and 162 plate appearances, respectively. Not sure that sample size is worth a lot. Granted, I was speaking from memory and his batting stats are far better than I thought... even at a career 97 OPS+. The thing that would concern me about him is that he has 785 plate appearances in 7 major league seasons.
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Pirates also have Tony Sanchez at AAA. With Sanchez, Stewart, and Cervelli, it appears that the Pirates aren't going to pay Martin. Probably a wise move on their part...they can spend the money better elsewhere. This is where being a big-market team should be a competitive advantage for us.
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Damn, so Stanton might be signing a 12 or 13 year deal with the Marlins. For about $320 million.
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