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<!--quoteo(post=122376:date=Dec 8 2010, 09:09 AM:name=BT)-->QUOTE (BT @ Dec 8 2010, 09:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->In case you were wondering, Luke Scott sounds like maybe a fun guy to hang around, if you like guns, and a complete moron, if you follow reality.

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Wow...just getting around to reading this. Luke Scott seriously sucks.
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<!--quoteo(post=122669:date=Dec 9 2010, 02:17 AM:name=Destined)-->QUOTE (Destined @ Dec 9 2010, 02:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->RIP Bob Feller.


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Ya know I respect Feller, but he always seemed to be kind of a jerk.
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<!--quoteo(post=122837:date=Dec 9 2010, 03:28 PM:name=funkster)-->QUOTE (funkster @ Dec 9 2010, 03:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=122669:date=Dec 9 2010, 02:17 AM:name=Destined)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Destined @ Dec 9 2010, 02:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->RIP Bob Feller.


That's two. Who's next?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Ya know I respect Feller, but he always seemed to be kind of a jerk.
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Apparently he's still alive, but in hospice. The news reports yesterday were premature.

But anyways, I've always thought he was one of top 3 righties.
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Vincente Padilla signed with the Dodgers thank God.
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<!--quoteo(post=122841:date=Dec 9 2010, 06:26 PM:name=Destined)-->QUOTE (Destined @ Dec 9 2010, 06:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=122837:date=Dec 9 2010, 03:28 PM:name=funkster)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (funkster @ Dec 9 2010, 03:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=122669:date=Dec 9 2010, 02:17 AM:name=Destined)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Destined @ Dec 9 2010, 02:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->RIP Bob Feller.

That's two. Who's next?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Ya know I respect Feller, but he always seemed to be kind of a jerk.
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Apparently he's still alive, but in hospice. The news reports yesterday were premature.

But anyways, I've always thought he was one of top 3 righties.
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He was great, no doubt. Since he retired, we've had Bob Gibson, Tom Seaver, Roger Clemens and Greg Maddux. Not sure if I'd rate Feller <i>above</i> those guys, but it's debatable.

It's tough to even include the dead-ball guys, because pitching in that era was SO different, but Walter Johnson, Cy Young and Christy Mathewson were all righties.

What's interesting about Feller is that he was the ONLY great right-handed pitcher for 45 years. That makes me think that perhaps he was better than his stats indicate. From the close of the dead-ball era in 1920, until the mid-60's pitching explosion, I can't think of another truly great rightie (and only Spahn and Grove are inner-circle lefties from that era).

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<!--quoteo(post=122848:date=Dec 9 2010, 08:57 PM:name=KBwsb)-->QUOTE (KBwsb @ Dec 9 2010, 08:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=122841:date=Dec 9 2010, 06:26 PM:name=Destined)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Destined @ Dec 9 2010, 06:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=122837:date=Dec 9 2010, 03:28 PM:name=funkster)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (funkster @ Dec 9 2010, 03:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=122669:date=Dec 9 2010, 02:17 AM:name=Destined)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Destined @ Dec 9 2010, 02:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->RIP Bob Feller.

That's two. Who's next?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Ya know I respect Feller, but he always seemed to be kind of a jerk.
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Apparently he's still alive, but in hospice. The news reports yesterday were premature.

But anyways, I've always thought he was one of top 3 righties.
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He was great, no doubt. Since he retired, we've had Bob Gibson, Tom Seaver, Roger Clemens and Greg Maddux. Not sure if I'd rate Feller <i>above</i> those guys, but it's debatable.

It's tough to even include the dead-ball guys, because pitching in that era was SO different, but Walter Johnson, Cy Young and Christy Mathewson were all righties.

What's interesting about Feller is that he was the ONLY great right-handed pitcher for 45 years. That makes me think that perhaps he was better than his stats indicate. From the close of the dead-ball era in 1920, until the mid-60's pitching explosion, I can't think of another truly great rightie (and only Spahn and Grove are inner-circle lefties from that era).

Am I missing someone?
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God I'm having an incredibly difficult time trying to find one.
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Whitey Ford?

Warren Spahn?

Robin Roberts?
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<!--quoteo(post=122974:date=Dec 10 2010, 05:55 PM:name=MW4)-->QUOTE (MW4 @ Dec 10 2010, 05:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Whitey Ford?

Warren Spahn?

Robin Roberts?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Roberts and Bob Lemon are the only right-handed pitchers from Feller's era that come semi-close.
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<!--quoteo(post=122974:date=Dec 10 2010, 04:55 PM:name=MW4)-->QUOTE (MW4 @ Dec 10 2010, 04:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Whitey Ford?

Warren Spahn?

Robin Roberts?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
When did Warren Spahn and Whitey Ford start throwing right handed? Or am I missing something?
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<!--quoteo(post=122848:date=Dec 9 2010, 06:57 PM:name=KBwsb)-->QUOTE (KBwsb @ Dec 9 2010, 06:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=122841:date=Dec 9 2010, 06:26 PM:name=Destined)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Destined @ Dec 9 2010, 06:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=122837:date=Dec 9 2010, 03:28 PM:name=funkster)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (funkster @ Dec 9 2010, 03:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=122669:date=Dec 9 2010, 02:17 AM:name=Destined)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Destined @ Dec 9 2010, 02:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->RIP Bob Feller.

That's two. Who's next?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Ya know I respect Feller, but he always seemed to be kind of a jerk.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Apparently he's still alive, but in hospice. The news reports yesterday were premature.

But anyways, I've always thought he was one of top 3 righties.
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He was great, no doubt. Since he retired, we've had Bob Gibson, Tom Seaver, Roger Clemens and Greg Maddux. Not sure if I'd rate Feller <i>above</i> those guys, but it's debatable.

It's tough to even include the dead-ball guys, because pitching in that era was SO different, but Walter Johnson, Cy Young and Christy Mathewson were all righties.

What's interesting about Feller is that he was the ONLY great right-handed pitcher for 45 years. That makes me think that perhaps he was better than his stats indicate. From the close of the dead-ball era in 1920, until the mid-60's pitching explosion, I can't think of another truly great rightie (and only Spahn and Grove are inner-circle lefties from that era).

Am I missing someone?
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Good point. The way I see it, I use eras as a barometer, due to the difficulty to really say someone from 1985 is better than 1905.

So for me, as far as righties go:

Deadball Era: Walter Johnson
Golden Age: Bob Feller
Expansion Era: Bob Gibson/Tom Seaver
Modern Era: Pedro Martinez
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It's odd...there must be a reason that there were hardly any dominant pitchers (especially right-handed ones) for a <i>45 year</i> period in MLB history. That's a long time.

Robin Roberts is the only one who's close, and though he's a deserving HOFer, he's nowhere near Feller's class. Don Newcombe, Allie Reynolds, Dizzy Dean, Dazzy Vance?
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I guess there's a possibility Cliff Lee could take his talents to Philadelphia.
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It's sounding like Lee to the Phillies might actually happen. That might be the best rotation ever.
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WTF, is this a conspiracy? How do the Phils not have the highest payroll in the NL?
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Word is breaking. Apparently Lee is going back to the Phillies.
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