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<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->I wanna know if you honestly beleve that!
Honestly....deep down in that Cub heart of yours that has a a great memory and a even better understanding of what it takes...Do you honestly believe that???????<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I want an answer from Tom.
Mostly because I...and probably a few others ....value his opinion.
A herd of buffalo can move only as fast as the slowest buffalo. When the herd is hunted, it is the slowest and weakest ones at the back that are killed first. This natural selection is good for the herd as a whole, because the general speed and health of the whole group keeps improving by the regular killing of the weakest members.
In much the same way the human brain can only operate as fast as the slowest brain cells. Excessive intake of alcohol, we all know, kills brain cells, but naturally it attacks the slowest and weakest brain cells first. In this way regular consumption of beer eliminates the weaker brain cells, making the brain a faster and more efficient machine. That's why you always feel smarter after a few beers.
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<!--quoteo(post=14538:date=Jan 28 2009, 07:33 PM:name=KBwsb)-->QUOTE (KBwsb @ Jan 28 2009, 07:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->My take on it is this: You can't really "plan" for October.
Nobody really knows what the magical x-factor is that helps teams run through the gauntlet of 3 straight post-season series.
About the only thing that stat researchers have pointed to is that it seems to help to have a kick-ass closer. That was one reason why I was against keelhauling Kerry Wood, but perhaps he'll be injured by October anyway.
And when Marmol is hot, he's as kick-ass as anybody.
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Thats funny coming from the biggest critic on here.
A herd of buffalo can move only as fast as the slowest buffalo. When the herd is hunted, it is the slowest and weakest ones at the back that are killed first. This natural selection is good for the herd as a whole, because the general speed and health of the whole group keeps improving by the regular killing of the weakest members.
In much the same way the human brain can only operate as fast as the slowest brain cells. Excessive intake of alcohol, we all know, kills brain cells, but naturally it attacks the slowest and weakest brain cells first. In this way regular consumption of beer eliminates the weaker brain cells, making the brain a faster and more efficient machine. That's why you always feel smarter after a few beers.
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<!--quoteo(post=14534:date=Jan 28 2009, 07:26 PM:name=Captain)-->QUOTE (Captain @ Jan 28 2009, 07:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=14519:date=Jan 28 2009, 07:08 PM:name=Captain)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Captain @ Jan 28 2009, 07:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=14514:date=Jan 28 2009, 07:05 PM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Jan 28 2009, 07:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=14512:date=Jan 28 2009, 07:01 PM:name=Captain)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Captain @ Jan 28 2009, 07:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Fuck just winning the division.Fuck the rest of the sorry ass teams in this division. I'm not happy anymore just making the playoffs.
I want a World Series Championship.
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it's being done my friend. THIS is a team that can win a championship.
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I wanna know ...RIGHT NOW... if you honestly beleve that!
Honestly....deep down in that Cub heart of yours that has a a great memory and a even better understanding of what it takes...Do you honestly believe that???????
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deep down inside i don't think the cubs will ever win the world series. but this team, the way it's constructed CAN win the world series. this is one of the best teams in baseball.
<i>will</i> they? probably not.
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<!--quoteo(post=14544:date=Jan 28 2009, 07:39 PM:name=veryzer)-->QUOTE (veryzer @ Jan 28 2009, 07:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=14534:date=Jan 28 2009, 07:26 PM:name=Captain)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Captain @ Jan 28 2009, 07:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=14519:date=Jan 28 2009, 07:08 PM:name=Captain)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Captain @ Jan 28 2009, 07:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=14514:date=Jan 28 2009, 07:05 PM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Jan 28 2009, 07:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=14512:date=Jan 28 2009, 07:01 PM:name=Captain)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Captain @ Jan 28 2009, 07:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Fuck just winning the division.Fuck the rest of the sorry ass teams in this division. I'm not happy anymore just making the playoffs.
I want a World Series Championship.
Build a team that can do that!<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
it's being done my friend. THIS is a team that can win a championship.
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I wanna know ...RIGHT NOW... if you honestly beleve that!
Honestly....deep down in that Cub heart of yours that has a a great memory and a even better understanding of what it takes...Do you honestly believe that???????
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deep down inside i don't think the cubs will ever win the world series. but this team, the way it's constructed CAN win the world series. this is one of the best teams in baseball.
<i>will</i> they? probably not.
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Thanks.
We are two pigs in the same trough.
A herd of buffalo can move only as fast as the slowest buffalo. When the herd is hunted, it is the slowest and weakest ones at the back that are killed first. This natural selection is good for the herd as a whole, because the general speed and health of the whole group keeps improving by the regular killing of the weakest members.
In much the same way the human brain can only operate as fast as the slowest brain cells. Excessive intake of alcohol, we all know, kills brain cells, but naturally it attacks the slowest and weakest brain cells first. In this way regular consumption of beer eliminates the weaker brain cells, making the brain a faster and more efficient machine. That's why you always feel smarter after a few beers.
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<!--quoteo(post=14528:date=Jan 28 2009, 07:20 PM:name=Clapp)-->QUOTE (Clapp @ Jan 28 2009, 07:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=14512:date=Jan 28 2009, 06:01 PM:name=Captain)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Captain @ Jan 28 2009, 06:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Fuck just winning the division.Fuck the rest of the sorry ass teams in this division. I'm not happy anymore just making the playoffs.
I want a World Series Championship.
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I don't know if you were speaking to me but I've been as vocal as anybody about this. All I was saying is we should win the division no matter what so we can afford to have a few issues going into midseason where we can make an acquisition or two to better prepare the team for the playoffs. Dude, the season doesn't start for me until October. No more running around the house screaming when Geovany Soto hits a homer to tie it in the 9th against the Brewers. I won't even get excited about winning the division. Championship or bust.
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Clapp I think you are doing yourself a great dis-service here. Remember what it was like to go into a season knowing that even if Manny Alexander had a breakout season the Cubs would still suck. We have won back to back division titles, we are on paper dominant in our division. Enjoy the fuck out of this,we both followed the Cubs like idiots when they sucked. We have never been this good in my entire lifetime. Soak up every bit of this season, enjoy being good, and look forward to an exciting post season. There will never be a guarantee that we will win it all, but this is so much better than the way it was in the 80's and 90's. We have had a chance every year for a while now and it is something that I could get used to.
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Fuck, I really think the Cubs WILL win the World Series in my lifetime. I think it can certainly happen this year. Will it? Who knows?
There's no sure thing in sports.
There's nothing better than to realize that the good things about youth don't end with youth itself. It's a matter of realizing that life can be renewed every day you get out of bed without baggage. It's tough to get there, but it's better than the dark thoughts. -Lance
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And what Savant said. Enjoy it, boys. It's nice to be good.
Last year was great. It really was.
There's nothing better than to realize that the good things about youth don't end with youth itself. It's a matter of realizing that life can be renewed every day you get out of bed without baggage. It's tough to get there, but it's better than the dark thoughts. -Lance
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I dont think it will EVER happen.
A herd of buffalo can move only as fast as the slowest buffalo. When the herd is hunted, it is the slowest and weakest ones at the back that are killed first. This natural selection is good for the herd as a whole, because the general speed and health of the whole group keeps improving by the regular killing of the weakest members.
In much the same way the human brain can only operate as fast as the slowest brain cells. Excessive intake of alcohol, we all know, kills brain cells, but naturally it attacks the slowest and weakest brain cells first. In this way regular consumption of beer eliminates the weaker brain cells, making the brain a faster and more efficient machine. That's why you always feel smarter after a few beers.
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<!--quoteo(post=14549:date=Jan 28 2009, 06:44 PM:name=savant)-->QUOTE (savant @ Jan 28 2009, 06:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=14528:date=Jan 28 2009, 07:20 PM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Jan 28 2009, 07:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=14512:date=Jan 28 2009, 06:01 PM:name=Captain)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Captain @ Jan 28 2009, 06:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Fuck just winning the division.Fuck the rest of the sorry ass teams in this division. I'm not happy anymore just making the playoffs.
I want a World Series Championship.
Build a team that can do that!<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I don't know if you were speaking to me but I've been as vocal as anybody about this. All I was saying is we should win the division no matter what so we can afford to have a few issues going into midseason where we can make an acquisition or two to better prepare the team for the playoffs. Dude, the season doesn't start for me until October. No more running around the house screaming when Geovany Soto hits a homer to tie it in the 9th against the Brewers. I won't even get excited about winning the division. Championship or bust.
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Clapp I think you are doing yourself a great dis-service here. Remember what it was like to go into a season knowing that even if Manny Alexander had a breakout season the Cubs would still suck. We have won back to back division titles, we are on paper dominant in our division. Enjoy the fuck out of this,we both followed the Cubs like idiots when they sucked. We have never been this good in my entire lifetime. Soak up every bit of this season, enjoy being good, and look forward to an exciting post season. There will never be a guarantee that we will win it all, but this is so much better than the way it was in the 80's and 90's. We have had a chance every year for a while now and it is something that I could get used to.
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Last regular season was an absolute blast, but losing like that 2 years in a row has me way more pissed off than our usual crap years. It really, really hurt and as much as I love this team, I'm developing some hate towards them at the same time. If we could just win maybe a single damn playoff game this time around, that will get me feeling at least a little bit better. I agree with what you're saying, but every time we choke like this on the national stage we're a bigger joke to everybody.
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<!--quoteo(post=14554:date=Jan 28 2009, 06:47 PM:name=Captain)-->QUOTE (Captain @ Jan 28 2009, 06:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I dont think it will EVER happen.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Me either, but at least with this thinking when it does happen, it will be that much sweeter.
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HTC found this article, and I thought it was pretty good, so I'm printing for us (with a few choice sections cut out, for the law)
It makes me, dare I say, a little bit excited to see Heilman come pitch for his favorite team.
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->A Heilman Homecoming
By BEN SHPIGEL
Just a few days ago, Steve Kelley of The Seattle Times wrote a column about one of the newest Mariners, Aaron Heilman. In it, Heilman was quoted as saying that he was looking forward to (finally) getting a chance to start and that he was hopeful the change of scenery could revive his career.
In the coming days, we may see similar columns in The Chicago Tribune or The Chicago Sun-Times. On Wednesday morning, Heilman was traded again, this time to the Chicago Cubs. As much as he may have enjoyed pitching in spacious Safeco Field or in beautiful Seattle, there is no doubt that he is a much, much happier man because of this deal.
Until Logansport, Ind., receives an expansion team (my Magic 8 ball says, “don’t count on it”), playing for the Cubs is the closest thing to going home. Heilman went to Notre Dame, a 90-mile straight shot on I-90, and now lives with his wife in the Chicago suburbs. His agent, Mark Rodgers, is friends with Cubs G.M. Jim Hendry. Heilman grew up a Cubs fan, and I always figured that, as soon as he reached free agency, he would find a way to pitch for them. Now, he will.
The local connection extends a little deeper, too. His new teammate Jeff Samardzija (a former All-American receiver) also attended Notre Dame, which seems to be churning out better baseball players than football players these days (see Lidge, Brad), so now Heilman can have someone to vent to on those September Saturdays. Samardzija will also challenge Heilman for a role on the staff.
On a conference call announcing the deal, the Cubs said that Heilman could continue pitching out of the bullpen, though he may compete with Sean Marshall, Chad Gaudin and Samardzija (who both pitched exclusively in relief last year) for the final rotation slot. Where Heilman fits in is difficult to project. Carlos Marmol and Kevin Gregg are expected to pitch the eighth and ninth innings, and Luis Vizcaino, Neal Cotts and Michael Wuertz are pretty much guaranteed of spots. Gaudin and Samardzija, both right-handers, may join that mix, too.
If Heilman loses the starting competition and winds up pitching in relief, I’m sure he’ll be disappointed. But he’ll handle that decision professionally, just as he did during his time with the Mets. Heilman purchased an ad in the scorebook sold at Sunday night’s annual awards dinner of the New York chapter of the Baseball Writers’ Association of America. It read: “Playing at Shea before you folks was an experience I will always savor. Thank you for support.”
By joining the Cubs, Heilman gets to savor another unforgettable experience, too.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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I don't believe we'll ever win it all, but I hope that we at least get to the WS once in my lifetime, just to make it interesting. And as long as we discard that repulsive lovable loser tag, at least we have something to feel proud of as fans. I keep looking back at the great Braves teams of the '90s and early '00s with only 1 WS title and a poor postseason record, and I have to keep reminding myself that even if we win our division several times over, there's absolutely no guarantee that we'll go all the way. The reality of it is a real bummer, and makes me question why I do this to myself every season. But what else am I gonna do?
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<!--quoteo(post=14594:date=Jan 29 2009, 02:02 AM:name=rok)-->QUOTE (rok @ Jan 29 2009, 02:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I don't believe we'll ever win it all, but I hope that we at least get to the WS once in my lifetime, just to make it interesting. And as long as we discard that repulsive lovable loser tag, at least we have something to feel proud of as fans. I keep looking back at the great Braves teams of the '90s and early '00s with only 1 WS title and a poor postseason record, and I have to keep reminding myself that even if we win our division several times over, there's absolutely no guarantee that we'll go all the way. The reality of it is a real bummer, and makes me question why I do this to myself every season. But what else am I gonna do?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Here's the thing though, until we win a WS we will always have the "lovable loser" tag.
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If no one believes that we'll win a WS, why would we not celebrate the hell out of our better seasons? I mean, if you seriously believe the Cubs will never win the WS and don't want to celebrate a game winning hr during the regular season, what's the point of being a fan of the team?
I got nothin'.
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All I said was.
I think Pie will become a major league centerfielder. His bat does not at all play in left. He is going to require time to develop as a hitter in the bigs, the Cubs are not in a position to develop hitters at this time.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Right. It wasn't going to work here. If we had a World Series say in the last century or so, I might feel differently about these sort of moves. We need to win now. Pie wasn't going to help that this year, and odds are he wouldn't be next year either after rotting on our bench.
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I generally agree; though I think I would have preferred to have Pie on the bench over Gathright. That's just me.
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If we were paying a lot for Gathwright I would agree. But, I am afraid that a year of Pie getting limited ab's would have driven his value around the league down to nothing while he failed in a part time role.
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Yeah because we got a shitload for him in return this offseason. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/img]
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In all honesty, Heilman and Williamson for Cedeno and Pie is a pretty decent return.
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Exactly...
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