Bullpen

[ruby23]

<!--quoteo(post=32500:date=Apr 23 2009, 11:40 AM:name=ColoradoCub)-->QUOTE (ColoradoCub @ Apr 23 2009, 11:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32497:date=Apr 23 2009, 10:37 AM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Apr 23 2009, 10:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32492:date=Apr 23 2009, 10:58 AM:name=ColoradoCub)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ColoradoCub @ Apr 23 2009, 10:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <!--quotec-->Cst_cubs: Samardzija here. Vizcaino and his $4 mil DFA<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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Vizcaino to the Nats before the end of the week, book it.
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Nats or Reds, though I think we'll be eating some of his salary for either of those to happen.
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We're eating all as of now, so that's not that big of a deal.

BTW, the personnel movement in the pen has been completely botched, thus far.

[Butcher]

I've been rendered speechless. Unreal.

[rok]

I never thought I'd be upset on the day that Vizcaino would be DFA'd, but Hendry found a way to piss me off. Good times.

[veryzer]

i have to admit, i'm befuddled. vizcaino pitches well and cotts doesn't....so they replace vizcaino. weird shit.

[veryzer]

<!--quoteo(post=32517:date=Apr 23 2009, 12:57 PM:name=rok)-->QUOTE (rok @ Apr 23 2009, 12:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32516:date=Apr 23 2009, 12:56 PM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Apr 23 2009, 12:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->i have to admit, i'm befuddled. vizcaino pitches well and cotts doesn't....so they replace vizcaino. weird shit.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I admire that, but Lou is partly to blame for a) wanting Bradley in the first place, and B ) trotting him out there when he's less than 100%.
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monkey ass fuck.

[BT]

<!--quoteo(post=32505:date=Apr 23 2009, 12:37 PM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Apr 23 2009, 12:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I've been rendered speechless. Unreal.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

seriously? The Cubs DFA's a guy with less than 4 innings pitched, who virtually the entire board was praying would be cut in spring training, and you are left speechless?

You broads are something else, I tell ya.

[Andy]

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seriously? The Cubs DFA's a guy with less than 4 innings pitched, who virtually the entire board was praying would be cut in spring training, and you are left speechless?

You broads are something else, I tell ya.
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I don't want to put words in anyone's mouth, but I think Butcher will bring this back to the DeRosa deal. I don't believe he's that concerned about losing Vizcaino, so much as it runs in the face of "saving money by dealing DeRosa".

[ColoradoCub]

<!--quoteo(post=32522:date=Apr 23 2009, 12:07 PM:name=BT)-->QUOTE (BT @ Apr 23 2009, 12:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32505:date=Apr 23 2009, 12:37 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Apr 23 2009, 12:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I've been rendered speechless. Unreal.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

seriously? The Cubs DFA's a guy with less than 4 innings pitched, who virtually the entire board was praying would be cut in spring training, and you are left speechless?

You broads are something else, I tell ya.
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If we were going to DFA him two weeks into the season for no apparent reason, why not just keep Gaudin, who had more upside, instead?

[Coach]

That Rule 5 kid better turn out to be the real deal.

[ColoradoCub]

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Seriously, he's already cost us $5.5m or so

[ColoradoCub]

<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->Making room for Samardzija

Cubs designate Vizcaino for assignment

April 23, 2009, 8:47 AM

By: Bruce Levine

The Cubs designated right-handed pitcher Luis Vizcaino for assignment.<b> The Cubs were trying to trade Vizcaino before bringing up Jeff Samardzija from Triple-A Iowa.

General manager Jim Hendry tried to be creative with other teams, including the Washington Nationals, and tried to save some money before having to release Vizcaino.</b>

It will take 72 hours for Vizcaino to go through waivers, and the Cubs will have seven days to either release him or trade him.

Vizcaino is making over $3 million. His contract was initially taken on due to the fact the team had to trade right-handed pitcher Jason Marquis in order to have enough money to sign free agent Milton Bradley. Mark DeRosa's money also was part of the equation in signing Bradley to a three-year contract.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

[rok]

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I admire that, but Lou is partly to blame for a) wanting Bradley in the first place, and B ) trotting him out there when he's less than 100%.
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monkey ass fuck.
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It was in the wrong thread. Not sure how that happened. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blush.gif[/img]

[Coldneck]

Vizcaino's contract is a sunk cost. If improving the pen can be done by getting rid of a shitty pitcher than it should be done regardless of how much money he is paid. I question why Cotts is on the roster, but I do think we need a left hander and Vizcaino was a time bomb waiting to explode. Thankfully we get rid of him so he can blow up another team's bullpen.

THIS MOVE MAKES SENSE. The Cubs are better for it. At the end of the day we saved the $6 million difference between Marquis and Vizcaino's contracts.

[ColoradoCub]

<!--quoteo(post=32530:date=Apr 23 2009, 12:32 PM:name=Coldneck)-->QUOTE (Coldneck @ Apr 23 2009, 12:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Vizcaino's contract is a sunk cost. If improving the pen can be done by getting rid of a shitty pitcher than it should be done regardless of how much money he is paid. I question why Cotts is on the roster, but I do think we need a left hander and Vizcaino was a time bomb waiting to explode. Thankfully we get rid of him so he can blow up another team's bullpen.

THIS MOVE MAKES SENSE. The Cubs are better for it. At the end of the day we saved the $6 million difference between Marquis and Vizcaino's contracts.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

The move may make sense, but how we arrived at this point doesn't. If they didn't think much of Vizcaino, and never intended to carry him thru the season, he never should have made the roster out of spring training in the first place.

[Clapp]

Brenly just said how it wasn't widely reported, but Vizcaino's tardiness had become an issue. Makes a little more sense. That shit will drive Lou nuts.