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<!--quoteo(post=35349:date=May 4 2009, 01:15 PM:name=alpha)-->QUOTE (alpha @ May 4 2009, 01:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=35337:date=May 4 2009, 12:02 PM:name=leonardsipes)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (leonardsipes @ May 4 2009, 12:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Trading DeReso in order to give the starting 2bman job to Fontenot, save 2.5 mil is a defensible move. Until you sign a guy that you have to assume will miss 50+ games.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hoffpauir will be taking the majority of at bats in the OF when Bradley gets injured. And IMO he is at least as good an offensive player as DeRosa, if not slightly better than him.
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I don't think that was Hendry's plan from the get go though.
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Here's a statement I can support.
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DeRosa and Fontenot were on the same team in 2008. One didn't have to leave to make room for the other.
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If Fontenot was gonna start DeRosa didn't have a place here. Miles was then signed to be a backup. Unless you wanted to have a 5 million dollar backup player.
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With Ramirez and Bradley on the team, plus Fontenot not facing LHP, DeRosa would get plenty of ABs.
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But the money saved on DeRosa helped pay for Bradley.
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$2.5M didn't make a difference in Bradley's contract. Now you're just being a douche.
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Yes it did. The Cubs had and continue to have money constraints, that's what is happening. The Cubs payroll was gonna rise significantly without adding a single player, due to backloaded contracts. The Cubs needed to shed payroll to afford Bradley, it had to happen. The Wood, Marquis, and DeRosa moves were all made in order to allow the Cubs to sign Bradley and to help ease the rising payroll from the players already signed. The Cubs(Piniella) also wanted to get more lefthanded, and 2B was the only spot where that was gonna be possible. There was zero % chance that Bradley and DeRosa were gonna be on this team together, it was never gonna happen, and it's stupid for people to keep acting like it was a legitimate possibility.
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Couldn't agree more Ruby.
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<!--quoteo(post=35355:date=May 4 2009, 01:22 PM:name=ruby23)-->QUOTE (ruby23 @ May 4 2009, 01:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=35344:date=May 4 2009, 01:08 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ May 4 2009, 01:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=35343:date=May 4 2009, 01:05 PM:name=PcB)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PcB @ May 4 2009, 01:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=35340:date=May 4 2009, 01:04 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ May 4 2009, 01:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=35338:date=May 4 2009, 01:03 PM:name=PcB)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PcB @ May 4 2009, 01:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=35334:date=May 4 2009, 01:01 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ May 4 2009, 01:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=35332:date=May 4 2009, 12:57 PM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ May 4 2009, 12:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->miles did not replace derosa. derosa was traded to make room for fontenot. miles was signed as a backup.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
DeRosa and Fontenot were on the same team in 2008. One didn't have to leave to make room for the other.
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If Fontenot was gonna start DeRosa didn't have a place here. Miles was then signed to be a backup. Unless you wanted to have a 5 million dollar backup player.
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With Ramirez and Bradley on the team, plus Fontenot not facing LHP, DeRosa would get plenty of ABs.
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But the money saved on DeRosa helped pay for Bradley.
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$2.5M didn't make a difference in Bradley's contract. Now you're just being a douche.
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Yes it did. The Cubs had and continue to have money constraints, that's what is happening. The Cubs payroll was gonna rise significantly without adding a single player, due to backloaded contracts. The Cubs needed to shed payroll to afford Bradley, it had to happen. The Wood, Marquis, and DeRosa moves were all made in order to allow the Cubs to sign Bradley and to help ease the rising payroll from the players already signed. The Cubs(Piniella) also wanted to get more lefthanded, and 2B was the only spot where that was gonna be possible. There was zero % chance that Bradley and DeRosa were gonna be on this team together, it was never gonna happen, and it's stupid for people to keep acting like it was a legitimate possibility.
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Sorry, but you're wrong.
$2.5M is 8% of $30M. A drop in the bucket. It didn't make a bit of difference in the Bradley contract.
DeRosa was traded so we could get more left-handed -- which isn't a good reason at all.
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<!--quoteo(post=35334:date=May 4 2009, 12:01 PM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ May 4 2009, 12:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=35332:date=May 4 2009, 12:57 PM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ May 4 2009, 12:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->miles did not replace derosa. derosa was traded to make room for fontenot. miles was signed as a backup.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
DeRosa and Fontenot were on the same team in 2008. One didn't have to leave to make room for the other.
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Really? Fontenot got a whopping 284 plate appearances last year. He already has 92 now. The Cubs wanted him to get the chance to play just about everyday, and he wouldn't have with DeRosa here. I don't know how you're not getting that. DeRosa would've been the starting 2B, just like last year.
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<!--quoteo(post=35355:date=May 4 2009, 01:22 PM:name=ruby23)-->QUOTE (ruby23 @ May 4 2009, 01:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=35344:date=May 4 2009, 01:08 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ May 4 2009, 01:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=35343:date=May 4 2009, 01:05 PM:name=PcB)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PcB @ May 4 2009, 01:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=35340:date=May 4 2009, 01:04 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ May 4 2009, 01:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=35338:date=May 4 2009, 01:03 PM:name=PcB)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PcB @ May 4 2009, 01:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=35334:date=May 4 2009, 01:01 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ May 4 2009, 01:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=35332:date=May 4 2009, 12:57 PM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ May 4 2009, 12:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->miles did not replace derosa. derosa was traded to make room for fontenot. miles was signed as a backup.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
DeRosa and Fontenot were on the same team in 2008. One didn't have to leave to make room for the other.
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If Fontenot was gonna start DeRosa didn't have a place here. Miles was then signed to be a backup. Unless you wanted to have a 5 million dollar backup player.
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With Ramirez and Bradley on the team, plus Fontenot not facing LHP, DeRosa would get plenty of ABs.
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But the money saved on DeRosa helped pay for Bradley.
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$2.5M didn't make a difference in Bradley's contract. Now you're just being a douche.
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Yes it did. The Cubs had and continue to have money constraints, that's what is happening. The Cubs payroll was gonna rise significantly without adding a single player, due to backloaded contracts. The Cubs needed to shed payroll to afford Bradley, it had to happen. The Wood, Marquis, and DeRosa moves were all made in order to allow the Cubs to sign Bradley and to help ease the rising payroll from the players already signed. The Cubs(Piniella) also wanted to get more lefthanded, and 2B was the only spot where that was gonna be possible. There was zero % chance that Bradley and DeRosa were gonna be on this team together, it was never gonna happen, and it's stupid for people to keep acting like it was a legitimate possibility.
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here's a series of statements i can support.
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<!--quoteo(post=35363:date=May 4 2009, 02:17 PM:name=Clapp)-->QUOTE (Clapp @ May 4 2009, 02:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=35334:date=May 4 2009, 12:01 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ May 4 2009, 12:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=35332:date=May 4 2009, 12:57 PM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ May 4 2009, 12:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->miles did not replace derosa. derosa was traded to make room for fontenot. miles was signed as a backup.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
DeRosa and Fontenot were on the same team in 2008. One didn't have to leave to make room for the other.
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Really? Fontenot got a whopping 284 plate appearances last year. He already has 92 now. The Cubs wanted him to get the chance to play just about everyday, and he wouldn't have with DeRosa here. I don't know how you're not getting that. DeRosa would've been the starting 2B, just like last year.
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i can support that as well.
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So... is there any update on Z?
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<!--quoteo(post=35363:date=May 4 2009, 02:17 PM:name=Clapp)-->QUOTE (Clapp @ May 4 2009, 02:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=35334:date=May 4 2009, 12:01 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ May 4 2009, 12:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=35332:date=May 4 2009, 12:57 PM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ May 4 2009, 12:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->miles did not replace derosa. derosa was traded to make room for fontenot. miles was signed as a backup.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
DeRosa and Fontenot were on the same team in 2008. One didn't have to leave to make room for the other.
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Really? Fontenot got a whopping 284 plate appearances last year. He already has 92 now. The Cubs wanted him to get the chance to play just about everyday, and he wouldn't have with DeRosa here. I don't know how you're not getting that. DeRosa would've been the starting 2B, just like last year.
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If Lou managed the team properly, Fontenot could be the starting 2B when a RHP was on the mound. DeRosa could start at 2B with a LHP on the mound.
DeRosa could also:
- Start in RF when Bradley is out (which appears as if that will be quite often)
- Start at 3B when Ramirez is out
- Start at 2B if Fontenot ever gets hurt
- Start at 1B when Lee needs a break or gets hurt
It could have worked just fine with the makeup of our roster.
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<!--quoteo(post=35370:date=May 4 2009, 02:33 PM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ May 4 2009, 02:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=35363:date=May 4 2009, 02:17 PM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ May 4 2009, 02:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=35334:date=May 4 2009, 12:01 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ May 4 2009, 12:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=35332:date=May 4 2009, 12:57 PM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ May 4 2009, 12:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->miles did not replace derosa. derosa was traded to make room for fontenot. miles was signed as a backup.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
DeRosa and Fontenot were on the same team in 2008. One didn't have to leave to make room for the other.
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Really? Fontenot got a whopping 284 plate appearances last year. He already has 92 now. The Cubs wanted him to get the chance to play just about everyday, and he wouldn't have with DeRosa here. I don't know how you're not getting that. DeRosa would've been the starting 2B, just like last year.
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If Lou managed the team properly, Fontenot could be the starting 2B when a RHP was on the mound. DeRosa could start at 2B with a LHP on the mound.
DeRosa could also:
- Start in RF when Bradley is out (which appears as if that will be quite often)
- Start at 3B when Ramirez is out
- Start at 2B if Fontenot ever gets hurt
- Start at 1B when Lee needs a break or gets hurt
It could have worked just fine with the makeup of our roster.
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Yeah, that all works... except for that pesky money part.
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DeRosa and Fontenot were on the same team in 2008. One didn't have to leave to make room for the other.
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Really? Fontenot got a whopping 284 plate appearances last year. He already has 92 now. The Cubs wanted him to get the chance to play just about everyday, and he wouldn't have with DeRosa here. I don't know how you're not getting that. DeRosa would've been the starting 2B, just like last year.
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If Lou managed the team properly, Fontenot could be the starting 2B when a RHP was on the mound. DeRosa could start at 2B with a LHP on the mound.
DeRosa could also:
- Start in RF when Bradley is out (which appears as if that will be quite often)
- Start at 3B when Ramirez is out
- Start at 2B if Fontenot ever gets hurt
- Start at 1B when Lee needs a break or gets hurt
It could have worked just fine with the makeup of our roster.
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Yeah, that all works... except for that pesky money part.
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Oh. That pesky $3M that we've already eaten (and then some) by dumping Gaudin?
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DeRosa and Fontenot were on the same team in 2008. One didn't have to leave to make room for the other.
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Really? Fontenot got a whopping 284 plate appearances last year. He already has 92 now. The Cubs wanted him to get the chance to play just about everyday, and he wouldn't have with DeRosa here. I don't know how you're not getting that. DeRosa would've been the starting 2B, just like last year.
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If Lou managed the team properly, Fontenot could be the starting 2B when a RHP was on the mound. DeRosa could start at 2B with a LHP on the mound.
DeRosa could also:
- Start in RF when Bradley is out (which appears as if that will be quite often)
- Start at 3B when Ramirez is out
- Start at 2B if Fontenot ever gets hurt
- Start at 1B when Lee needs a break or gets hurt
It could have worked just fine with the makeup of our roster.
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But you can't handle a team like that. You can't say, "Hey DeRo, we're going to make Fontenot the starting second baseman against righties, but we know Bradley's going to be out a lot because he's always hurt, so you'll get lots of playing time in RF as well."
He was our starting 2b on a 97 win team. They weren't going to officially platoon him with Fontenot, and you can't <i>assume</i> Bradley is going to be out all that time, even if history would indicate it's likely. It sounds like a fine scenario to us in the fantasy world, but that's not how you manage a team.
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DeRosa and Fontenot were on the same team in 2008. One didn't have to leave to make room for the other.
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Really? Fontenot got a whopping 284 plate appearances last year. He already has 92 now. The Cubs wanted him to get the chance to play just about everyday, and he wouldn't have with DeRosa here. I don't know how you're not getting that. DeRosa would've been the starting 2B, just like last year.
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If Lou managed the team properly, Fontenot could be the starting 2B when a RHP was on the mound. DeRosa could start at 2B with a LHP on the mound.
DeRosa could also:
- Start in RF when Bradley is out (which appears as if that will be quite often)
- Start at 3B when Ramirez is out
- Start at 2B if Fontenot ever gets hurt
- Start at 1B when Lee needs a break or gets hurt
It could have worked just fine with the makeup of our roster.
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But you can't handle a team like that. You can't say, "Hey DeRo, we're going to make Fontenot the starting second baseman against righties, but we know Bradley's going to be out a lot because he's always hurt, so you'll get lots of playing time in RF as well."
He was our starting 2b on a 97 win team. They weren't going to officially platoon him with Fontenot, and you can't <i>assume</i> Bradley is going to be out all that time, even if history would indicate it's likely. It sounds like a fine scenario to us in the fantasy world, but that's not how you manage a team.
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Bingo.
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DeRosa and Fontenot were on the same team in 2008. One didn't have to leave to make room for the other.
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Really? Fontenot got a whopping 284 plate appearances last year. He already has 92 now. The Cubs wanted him to get the chance to play just about everyday, and he wouldn't have with DeRosa here. I don't know how you're not getting that. DeRosa would've been the starting 2B, just like last year.
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If Lou managed the team properly, Fontenot could be the starting 2B when a RHP was on the mound. DeRosa could start at 2B with a LHP on the mound.
DeRosa could also:
- Start in RF when Bradley is out (which appears as if that will be quite often)
- Start at 3B when Ramirez is out
- Start at 2B if Fontenot ever gets hurt
- Start at 1B when Lee needs a break or gets hurt
It could have worked just fine with the makeup of our roster.
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Yeah, that all works... except for that pesky money part.
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Oh. That pesky $3M that we've already eaten (and then some) by dumping Gaudin?
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You can't go by what Hendry had to do after the moves were made because people didn't perform. There is no way Hendry would have got rid of DeRo if money wasn't a concern.
"I'm not sure I know what ball cheese or crotch rot is, exactly -- or if there is a difference between the two. Don't post photos, please..."
- Butcher
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