Sammy Sosa Tested Positive for Steroids

[Coldneck]

Big fucking meh!

[chitownwinninitall]

<!--quoteo(post=44605:date=Jun 16 2009, 09:49 PM:name=savant)-->QUOTE (savant @ Jun 16 2009, 09:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=44601:date=Jun 16 2009, 09:26 PM:name=chitownwinninitall)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chitownwinninitall @ Jun 16 2009, 09:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I couldn't be less shocked by this news. Anyone who is surprised by this has had their head in the sand for the last decade. I hate to say it but I loved watching sammy too, but I was 12 during that 98 season. When I look back now and read all of the reports and specifically these new stories I feel like a chump, the fact I was taken in and actually cheered for this cheater makes me sick. If some of you can look past it and just remember the good times more power to you, but It makes my skin crawl to know that I looked up to and respected a complete fraud, a guy who cheated his way to the top.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->


Stop being so melodramatic. Everyone was doing it, and Sammy just happened to be one of the best at doing it. He was better than Ken Caminti, and Jeff Bagwell, and Craig Bigio, and Mark Macgwire, and Albert Pujols, and Jim Edmonds, and Scott Rolen, and Manny Ramirez. It was the era, and mlb pretty much turned a blind eye to the entire thing.
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Okay so everyone is breaking the rules so that makes it okay? What type of logic is that. Everyone breaks the speed limit so why give out tickets. I'm sorry but when a guy I cheered for is found to be a cheater it pisses me off even if he was the best cheater of his generation.


And I do want to say I am way more angry with MLB and the Players Union over this whole steroids stuff than I am with any player. They could have ended it before it ever started if they really wanted to and cared more about the integrity of their game and the health of their players than they did profit.

[Lance]

<!--quoteo(post=44611:date=Jun 16 2009, 11:00 PM:name=chitownwinninitall)-->QUOTE (chitownwinninitall @ Jun 16 2009, 11:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=44605:date=Jun 16 2009, 09:49 PM:name=savant)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (savant @ Jun 16 2009, 09:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=44601:date=Jun 16 2009, 09:26 PM:name=chitownwinninitall)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chitownwinninitall @ Jun 16 2009, 09:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I couldn't be less shocked by this news. Anyone who is surprised by this has had their head in the sand for the last decade. I hate to say it but I loved watching sammy too, but I was 12 during that 98 season. When I look back now and read all of the reports and specifically these new stories I feel like a chump, the fact I was taken in and actually cheered for this cheater makes me sick. If some of you can look past it and just remember the good times more power to you, but It makes my skin crawl to know that I looked up to and respected a complete fraud, a guy who cheated his way to the top.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->


Stop being so melodramatic. Everyone was doing it, and Sammy just happened to be one of the best at doing it. He was better than Ken Caminti, and Jeff Bagwell, and Craig Bigio, and Mark Macgwire, and Albert Pujols, and Jim Edmonds, and Scott Rolen, and Manny Ramirez. It was the era, and mlb pretty much turned a blind eye to the entire thing.
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Okay so everyone is breaking the rules so that makes it okay? What type of logic is that. Everyone breaks the speed limit so why give out tickets. I'm sorry but when a guy I cheered for is found to be a cheater it pisses me off even if he was the best cheater of his generation.


And I do want to say I am way more angry with MLB and the Players Union over this whole steroids stuff than I am with any player. They could have ended it before it ever started if they really wanted to and cared more about the integrity of their game and the health of their players than they did profit.
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I respect your feelings. I voiced mine. Agree to disagree. This is pretty much a line in the sand issue. Some of us loved Sammy and don't care what he did given the era he was in and some of you can't get over it. Fine. He gave me pleasure. He apparently now gives you pain. Neither of those things is relevant to what is happening now.

And now pretty much sucks. If the team is going to be bad, give me Sammy hitting 20 homers in a month, hopping, running out to right field, making silly comments in the post game interviews, to this boring shitload of a team we have this year.

[ruby23]

I love how steroids have somehow tainted the MLB, but it's been barely a blip on the NFL's radar. Does not compute.

[Kid]

He was a cheater, selfish, a bad teammate, and, in all likelihood, a felon (perjury before Congress). Other than the fact that Sosa was apparently not as good at cheating, what's the difference between him and Bonds?

[ruby23]

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He was our cheater, our selfish prick, our felon. I still love him, always will.

[Lance]

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Because he took joy in playing baseball?

Because most people hated Bonds and loved Sammy? There were reasons for that which go beyond logic. I understand where you are coming from. Yeah, devoid of all emotion Sammy = Barry. With emotion Sammy far exceeds Barry.

[Kid]

[funkster]

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Agreed. People liked to turn a blind eye just because he was personable. I figured some solid stuff on him would come out eventually.

[offcolorpoetry]

Fuck him, fuck the rest of those cheaters, and motherfuck Bud Selig.

[veryzer]

bonds is an evil piece of shit. a bad human being. an asshole of epic proportions. sammy was just an idiot. a likeable, fun, pesonable idiot. i'd have hated bonds if he never juiced.

[Andy]

Since nearly every big named player from the late 1990's through the early 2000's was using steriods, and we're still all fans of baseball, how can we sit back and bitch about it now? We've all known that the big hitters from the past 15 years have been on roids. So why is it we need this renewed angst every time they bring up a new member on the list? Considering that these lawyers probably already have the full list, it's amusing they choose to only release a name or 2 at a crack. Why not just release the entire list and be done with it?

Who cares? It's not as though anyone thought Sammy was clean anyway.

[cherp]

I would like to see the ENTIRE list come out. This trickling crap sucks. A-Rod was somewhat of a surprise. Sosa - not so much. I'm looking to see who else did it. I'm sure some names won't be surprising (like McGwire) and others will. But I just want to get this all out on the table and move on.

I will be very curious how the voters actually handle some of these guys. We have seen them virtually ignore McGwire - for good reason. I can't see Raffy or Sammy do much better at this point. And frankly, it doesn't bother me a bit.

[Ace]

Is it true that during that 2003 test, only 7% tested positive? Also, was every player tested? If so, I may have dramatically been overestimating the problem.

[ruby23]

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104 names are on the list, that means that they'd have tested almost 1500 players. I don't know how many people they tested, but that's only 300 more than could be on the combined 40 man rosters. Seems reasonable to assume that more people were tested than actually made it to each team's roster.