Get derosa back at all costs

[wavelandtommy]

Get mark derosa back at all costs ?????

[rok]

And Woody too?????

[veryzer]

totally. i think we shuld get hee seop choi back as well.

[Andy]

De Rosa isn't the solution. He'd be better than Fonenot, but I certainly wouldn't do it at any cost.

[DaveB]

<!--quoteo(post=44857:date=Jun 18 2009, 11:06 AM:name=cubstar341)-->QUOTE (cubstar341 @ Jun 18 2009, 11:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Get mark derosa back at all costs ?????<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Its funny you posted this, I was just thinking about this yesterday.

Mark DeRosa 2009 stats:
.280/.348/.479
13 HR 48 RBI

Andy I am going to have to disagree that DeRosa isn't the solution. If we had him this offense still wouldnt be as strong as last year, but we'd definitely be doing better than we are right now.
Looking back at some big wins last year, it seems like DeRo almost always played a part. In comeback or walk off wins, DeRo often would get it going wit a lead-off walk or a big base hit to keep the inning alive.
Yesterday when they were showing ARam's walkoff against the Sux last year, and some other walk-offs from last year, DeRo is usually the first one out of the dugout celebrating. It gave me a sad, sick feeling watching it.
Hendry FUCKED up bad. He has a chance to make up for it because DeRo is definitely on the block. But will he do so? Im afraid not. The whole "payroll" excuse is most likely going to be used, although it will come down to Hendry not wanting to look like he made a mistake.
I bet you the Cubs wouldnt even have to give up that much to get him. The Indians would probably love to get Fox for the DH role, and throw them some other prospects as well who cares. At this point it can't hurt. This ship is going down fast and it doesn't look like it will be getting any better in the coming years. Throw the Indians some of our AAAA guys who arent going to make a difference for our team but would be worth a shot for the Indians.

As for Woody I dont think getting him back is such a pressing need. Last I saw his ERA was pretty sky high. I mean hes definitely better than Gregg, but right now the priority has to be a bat.

[ruby23]

Add DeRosa and his numbers to this team and the Cubs maybe have 1 more win than they currently do. He's not the solution, this team is put together so utterly wrong and managed even worse, no singular player is gonna fix that.

[DaveB]

Are you shitting me???
DeRo has 20 more RBI than the Cubs top RBI man this season so far (Sori-28), and thats while playing on an Indians team thats even worse than ours!

Your telling me that 20 more RBI would equal only 1 more win??
Whatever you and Hendry are smoking, I need a hit of that sht

[offcolorpoetry]

<!--quoteo(post=44867:date=Jun 18 2009, 11:49 AM:name=DaveB)-->QUOTE (DaveB @ Jun 18 2009, 11:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Are you shitting me???
DeRo has 20 more RBI than the Cubs top RBI man this season so far (Sori-28), and thats while playing on an Indians team thats even worse than ours!

Your telling me that 20 more RBI would equal only 1 more win??
Whatever you and Hendry are smoking, I need a hit of that sht<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Who the fuck would he be driving in?

[DaveB]

Lets look at the team RISP last few games:

0-7
2-7
0-6
2-6
0-6

In 3 of those games, the opposition scored 3 runs or less. Its not like we aren't getting runners in scoring position, its that everybody who comes up in those situation chokes on a fat one.
Look at yesterday. Early in the game we had 1st and 3rd no outs, 2nd and 3rd 1 out, etc. But NOBODY could bring them home.

When you are losing games 2-1, 2-0, etc, 1 big hit in those RISP situations could be enough to get the W. But its just not happening. AT ALL.
Our starting pitchers are keeping us in almost every game. We don't need our offense to score 10 runs a game. We need somebody to step up in the RISP situations and get a big knock.
ARam can do that. DeRo can do that too

[PcB]

<!--quoteo(post=44857:date=Jun 18 2009, 11:06 AM:name=cubstar341)-->QUOTE (cubstar341 @ Jun 18 2009, 11:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Get mark derosa back at all costs ?????<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I think if we have enough threads about DeRosa, Hendry will have to cave in and get him back... [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif[/img]

[offcolorpoetry]

<!--quoteo(post=44870:date=Jun 18 2009, 12:00 PM:name=DaveB)-->QUOTE (DaveB @ Jun 18 2009, 12:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Lets look at the team RISP last few games:

0-7
2-7
0-6
2-6
0-6

In 3 of those games, the opposition scored 3 runs or less. Its not like we aren't getting runners in scoring position, its that everybody who comes up in those situation chokes on a fat one.
Look at yesterday. Early in the game we had 1st and 3rd no outs, 2nd and 3rd 1 out, etc. But NOBODY could bring them home.

When you are losing games 2-1, 2-0, etc, 1 big hit in those RISP situations could be enough to get the W. But its just not happening. AT ALL.
Our starting pitchers are keeping us in almost every game. We don't need our offense to score 10 runs a game. We need somebody to step up in the RISP situations and get a big knock.
ARam can do that. DeRo can do that too<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

DeRo would be good for MAYBE two wins. One person isn't going to lead his team to victory everyday when the rest of the team is hitting like shit.

It's also impossible to project how DeRo's numbers would translate to the NL. He's also a below average defender.

[BT]

<!--quoteo(post=44870:date=Jun 18 2009, 12:00 PM:name=DaveB)-->QUOTE (DaveB @ Jun 18 2009, 12:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Lets look at the team RISP last few games:

0-7
2-7
0-6
2-6
0-6

In 3 of those games, the opposition scored 3 runs or less. Its not like we aren't getting runners in scoring position, its that everybody who comes up in those situation chokes on a fat one.
Look at yesterday. Early in the game we had 1st and 3rd no outs, 2nd and 3rd 1 out, etc. But NOBODY could bring them home.

When you are losing games 2-1, 2-0, etc, 1 big hit in those RISP situations could be enough to get the W. But its just not happening. AT ALL.
Our starting pitchers are keeping us in almost every game. We don't need our offense to score 10 runs a game. We need somebody to step up in the RISP situations and get a big knock.
ARam can do that. DeRo can do that too<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

This is absurd. Derosa would have to be up in one of these positions, plus he would still have to get a hit (he's hitting .280, not 1.000, so there is a 72 percent chance he DOESN'T get a hit), as even a walk won't help unless bases are loaded.

The DeRosa shit is completely out of hand. ONE really really good hitter still doesn't make our offense work.

[ruby23]

<!--quoteo(post=44867:date=Jun 18 2009, 11:49 AM:name=DaveB)-->QUOTE (DaveB @ Jun 18 2009, 11:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Are you shitting me???
DeRo has 20 more RBI than the Cubs top RBI man this season so far (Sori-28), and thats while playing on an Indians team thats even worse than ours!

Your telling me that 20 more RBI would equal only 1 more win??
Whatever you and Hendry are smoking, I need a hit of that sht<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
OK, maybe 2 wins or maybe no more wins or maybe even less wins. Either way, DeRosa on this team changes nothing. If you think otherwise, well, you're just wrong and possibly handicapped.

[CFOrfan]

<!--quoteo(post=44868:date=Jun 18 2009, 09:51 AM:name=Gracie)-->QUOTE (Gracie @ Jun 18 2009, 09:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=44867:date=Jun 18 2009, 11:49 AM:name=DaveB)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DaveB @ Jun 18 2009, 11:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Are you shitting me???
DeRo has 20 more RBI than the Cubs top RBI man this season so far (Sori-28), and thats while playing on an Indians team thats even worse than ours!

Your telling me that 20 more RBI would equal only 1 more win??
Whatever you and Hendry are smoking, I need a hit of that sht<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Who the fuck would he be driving in?
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Winner.

[rok]

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cu...T-cub19.article
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->And despite some misperceptions, Piniella and DeRosa developed a strong relationship after an early speed bump or two in 2007.

In fact, talk to Piniella and you learn how familiar he is with DeRosa's numbers this year -- especially the fact that DeRosa has outproduced Piniella's top RBI man by 17.

Could the Cubs reacquire DeRosa? It likely would take at least a few dominoes falling in the right direction to make that happen.

If they did, the Cubs would have no qualms about looking into it. Hendry and others have pointed out several times that DeRosa was traded only to free up one of the only positions possible to add a left-handed hitter as well as free up some payroll room to add the hitter, Milton Bradley, they sought last winter.

And the financial commitment wouldn't appear to be the hurdle it might with another acquisition. DeRosa would cost $2.75 million for a half-season in the final year of his contract.

''We thought we made the club better by getting more balanced and getting more left-handed,'' Hendry said during this week's Sox series, talking about the larger picture of last winter's plans and this season's struggles. ''Obviously, when Rami goes down, you certainly wish you had DeRosa back.

''At the same time, we presented an honest evaluation that we didn't want seven right-handed hitters in the lineup every day. And with Milton, when the guy leads the league in on-base percentage and hits .320-something and 20-plus homers, you certainly think you've got the right guy for 125-130 games out there.''<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->