Baseball Pet Peeves

[biggz]

<!--quoteo(post=48850:date=Jul 8 2009, 04:00 PM:name=bz)-->QUOTE (bz @ Jul 8 2009, 04:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->PPS...don't read that with my voice yelling. Instead use a 1-900 number sexy female operators voice.

<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

[img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img] I went back and reread it in that voice.

You now owe me a new pair of underpants.



I can't think of too many pet peeves besides:

people who don't STFU during the game and pay attention (*cough* best friend *cough*)

The fact the NL Central has 6 teams and the AL West has 4 teams...it should be 5, across the board, dammit

Mongoloids who for vote for the "popular" (not necessarily performing) players in the ASG. They're not mutally exclusive, goddammit.

AND TEAMS UNDERPERFORMING AND CONSTANTLY PLAYING LIKE FUCKING DOGSHIT!

*ahem* Sorry, another error just happened.

[BT]

<!--quoteo(post=48847:date=Jul 8 2009, 03:49 PM:name=bz)-->QUOTE (bz @ Jul 8 2009, 03:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->BT, I believe the topic is "Baseball Pet Peeves" not "Baseball Message Board Pet Peeves".

Before 2003 no one complained about the old way of giving home field advantage because it had been done that way forever and wasn't really a big deal. You alternate. Simple, innocuous. 50/50 chance your team is playing with home field advantage. In retrospect, it was not a good method, but it was a fair one.

Selig changed the system to protect the potential loss of revenues and MLB marketing world wide after the 2003 tie.

And I don't like the assertion that we're all hypocrites because we didn't complain before, but now we're complaining about something that can be corrected despite Selig's stubbornness in the matter. I'll hop in my time machine, go back to 2002 and start a firethealternatinghomefieldadvantage.com blog for you.

And PS...I can think something is "dumb" if I want to without having to rationalize it to you. Here's some other things I don't like, but don't feel I need to have to justify: one of the hosts at work, green olives, ladder ball, Rush...etc.

And PPS...just because someone says something is dumb and doesn't provide a reason for it openly doesn't mean that they don't have a reason.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->


I could go line by line, but I'll keep it simple. People, in all walks of life, on radio, in print, on TV, in many media facets outside of this message board, complain about the new method of selecting home field advantage. I, in no way, was pointing out just people on this message board. In point of fact, I was almost entirely talking about people outside of this message board, as "home field advantage for the all star game" is not really something we discuss a lot on this board. It was only when Butch decided to harp on my "peeve" (which I am just as entitled to as you are entitled to think something is dumb without rationalizing it to me, by the way) where it was decided to drill it down into why or why not Selig won't change it to best record for home field advantage and which side people on this board come down on the issue. So you are entitled to think whatever the fuck you want is dumb, just as I am entitled to list people who thought alternating years was hunky dory, but are suddenly outraged by the all star game mattering, as a peeve.

In short, I believe I stayed on topic.

[dk123]

<!--quoteo(post=48847:date=Jul 8 2009, 03:49 PM:name=bz)-->QUOTE (bz @ Jul 8 2009, 03:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->BT, I believe the topic is "Baseball Pet Peeves" not "Baseball Message Board Pet Peeves".

Before 2003 no one complained about the old way of giving home field advantage because it had been done that way forever and wasn't really a big deal. You alternate. Simple, innocuous. 50/50 chance your team is playing with home field advantage. In retrospect, it was not a good method, but it was a fair one.

Selig changed the system to protect the potential loss of revenues and MLB marketing world wide after the 2003 tie.

And I don't like the assertion that we're all hypocrites because we didn't complain before, but now we're complaining about something that can be corrected despite Selig's stubbornness in the matter. I'll hop in my time machine, go back to 2002 and start a firethealternatinghomefieldadvantage.com blog for you.

And PS...I can think something is "dumb" if I want to without having to rationalize it to you. Here's some other things I don't like, but don't feel I need to have to justify: one of the hosts at work, green olives, ladder ball, Rush...etc.

And PPS...just because someone says something is dumb and doesn't provide a reason for it openly doesn't mean that they don't have a reason.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

You had me, until you said you don't like green olives. You, sir, can go to fuck.

[phan]

boo-birds (unless it's for no effort).

[bz]

But people didn't think it was all hunky dory. They weren't saying, "Hey George, I really love the way we decide homefield advantage." It just was never thought of as microscopically until it was determined by a meaningless game. Up until then it was just the way it was. If you think that is annoying then I don't know what to tell ya. Seems reasonable to me.

[ruby23]

<!--quoteo(post=48949:date=Jul 9 2009, 12:57 AM:name=phan)-->QUOTE (phan @ Jul 9 2009, 12:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->boo-birds (unless it's for no effort).<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yessir, couldn't agree more. I think it's OK to boo the opponent at any given moment though.

[Coach]

<!--quoteo(post=48958:date=Jul 9 2009, 08:00 AM:name=ruby23)-->QUOTE (ruby23 @ Jul 9 2009, 08:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=48949:date=Jul 9 2009, 12:57 AM:name=phan)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (phan @ Jul 9 2009, 12:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->boo-birds (unless it's for no effort).<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yessir, couldn't agree more. I think it's OK to boo the opponent at any given moment though.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yep.
I wish the fans would understand that they dont have to boo Soriano & Bradley after every out.

[BT]

<!--quoteo(post=48951:date=Jul 9 2009, 02:59 AM:name=bz)-->QUOTE (bz @ Jul 9 2009, 02:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->But people didn't think it was all hunky dory. They weren't saying, "Hey George, I really love the way we decide homefield advantage." It just was never thought of as microscopically until it was determined by a meaningless game. Up until then it was just the way it was. If you think that is annoying then I don't know what to tell ya. Seems reasonable to me.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->


BZ, you continue to prove my point, almost perfectly. When the game was decided by something as asinine as "every other year", people didn't really give it much thought, by your own admission. Call that what you like, indifference, tacit approval, whatever. It was only after it was changed to something marginally less random, that suddenly it was a pox on society. This is EXACTLY my point. If the current system is so bad that you are going to bitch and moan about it now, why was alternating years not bad enough for you to look at it "microscopically"?


How about an illustration. Your girlfriend moves in, and paints your room bright pink. You say nothing. A couple of months later, she paints it GLOSSY bright pink. You completely freak out and start screaming how this cannot stand. Then Butch walks in and blames it on Bud Selig.

[Butcher]

<!--quoteo(post=48962:date=Jul 9 2009, 08:19 AM:name=BT)-->QUOTE (BT @ Jul 9 2009, 08:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=48951:date=Jul 9 2009, 02:59 AM:name=bz)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bz @ Jul 9 2009, 02:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->But people didn't think it was all hunky dory. They weren't saying, "Hey George, I really love the way we decide homefield advantage." It just was never thought of as microscopically until it was determined by a meaningless game. Up until then it was just the way it was. If you think that is annoying then I don't know what to tell ya. Seems reasonable to me.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->


BZ, you continue to prove my point, almost perfectly. When the game was decided by something as asinine as "every other year", people didn't really give it much thought, by your own admission. Call that what you like, indifference, tacit approval, whatever. It was only after it was changed to something marginally less random, that suddenly it was a pox on society. This is EXACTLY my point. If the current system is so bad that you are going to bitch and moan about it now, why was alternating years not bad enough for you to look at it "microscopically"?


How about an illustration. Your girlfriend moves in, and paints your room bright pink. You say nothing. A couple of months later, she paints it GLOSSY bright pink. You completely freak out and start screaming how this cannot stand. Then Butch walks in and blames it on Bud Selig.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
People weren't complaining about the previous system because it was in place for so long and it had never been altered. The fact that it has changed pisses people off because:

- it wasn't changed to something better
- the fact that it was changed shows that change is possible (but why not change it to something that makes sense?)

Here's an illustration for you.

You have a giant sculpture of a cock on top of your house. You have never cared for it, but you like everything else about the house -- location, price, square footage, etc. -- so you lived with it. Many years later, the architect comes by and says he's going to change it. This makes you happy. But he builds a giant sculpture of a scrotum in its place. This makes you mad.

Think you might bitch about it?

[Brock]

[img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rollin.gif[/img]

[Oatmealcookie]

<!--quoteo(post=48976:date=Jul 9 2009, 09:55 AM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Jul 9 2009, 09:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=48962:date=Jul 9 2009, 08:19 AM:name=BT)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BT @ Jul 9 2009, 08:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=48951:date=Jul 9 2009, 02:59 AM:name=bz)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bz @ Jul 9 2009, 02:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->But people didn't think it was all hunky dory. They weren't saying, "Hey George, I really love the way we decide homefield advantage." It just was never thought of as microscopically until it was determined by a meaningless game. Up until then it was just the way it was. If you think that is annoying then I don't know what to tell ya. Seems reasonable to me.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->


BZ, you continue to prove my point, almost perfectly. When the game was decided by something as asinine as "every other year", people didn't really give it much thought, by your own admission. Call that what you like, indifference, tacit approval, whatever. It was only after it was changed to something marginally less random, that suddenly it was a pox on society. This is EXACTLY my point. If the current system is so bad that you are going to bitch and moan about it now, why was alternating years not bad enough for you to look at it "microscopically"?


How about an illustration. Your girlfriend moves in, and paints your room bright pink. You say nothing. A couple of months later, she paints it GLOSSY bright pink. You completely freak out and start screaming how this cannot stand. Then Butch walks in and blames it on Bud Selig.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
People weren't complaining about the previous system because it was in place for so long and it had never been altered. The fact that it has changed pisses people off because:

- it wasn't changed to something better
- the fact that it was changed shows that change is possible (but why not change it to something that makes sense?)

Here's an illustration for you.

You have a giant sculpture of a cock on top of your house. You have never cared for it, but you like everything else about the house -- location, price, square footage, etc. -- so you lived with it. Many years later, the architect comes by and says he's going to change it. This makes you happy. But he builds a giant sculpture of a scrotum in its place. This makes you mad.

Think you might bitch about it?
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

This is gold!

[BT]

<!--quoteo(post=48976:date=Jul 9 2009, 09:55 AM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Jul 9 2009, 09:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=48962:date=Jul 9 2009, 08:19 AM:name=BT)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BT @ Jul 9 2009, 08:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=48951:date=Jul 9 2009, 02:59 AM:name=bz)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bz @ Jul 9 2009, 02:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->But people didn't think it was all hunky dory. They weren't saying, "Hey George, I really love the way we decide homefield advantage." It just was never thought of as microscopically until it was determined by a meaningless game. Up until then it was just the way it was. If you think that is annoying then I don't know what to tell ya. Seems reasonable to me.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->


BZ, you continue to prove my point, almost perfectly. When the game was decided by something as asinine as "every other year", people didn't really give it much thought, by your own admission. Call that what you like, indifference, tacit approval, whatever. It was only after it was changed to something marginally less random, that suddenly it was a pox on society. This is EXACTLY my point. If the current system is so bad that you are going to bitch and moan about it now, why was alternating years not bad enough for you to look at it "microscopically"?


How about an illustration. Your girlfriend moves in, and paints your room bright pink. You say nothing. A couple of months later, she paints it GLOSSY bright pink. You completely freak out and start screaming how this cannot stand. Then Butch walks in and blames it on Bud Selig.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
People weren't complaining about the previous system because it was in place for so long and it had never been altered. The fact that it has changed pisses people off because:

- it wasn't changed to something better
- the fact that it was changed shows that change is possible (but why not change it to something that makes sense?)

Here's an illustration for you.

You have a giant sculpture of a cock on top of your house. You have never cared for it, but you like everything else about the house -- location, price, square footage, etc. -- so you lived with it. Many years later, the architect comes by and says he's going to change it. This makes you happy. But he builds a giant sculpture of a scrotum in its place. This makes you mad.

Think you might bitch about it?
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

If the cock was acceptable, the scrotum would not send me into a tizzy. To use your analogy, let's say I call a lawyer. I say "I'm suing this moron for putting a huge scrotum on my roof". The lawyer would then look at the before and after photos, and say "You were living with a huge cock on your roof for years you stupid asshole, why are you bitching now?" Then he wouldn't take my case.

I'd also add that Selig's change was not to "fix" the alternating year format, but to make the All Star game more exciting. Going by that, he probably said the format was fucking stupid enough, changing it to make the all star game more exciting shouldn't piss people off. They've been living with a huge cock on their roofs for years.

[Brock]

[img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img] I could read about cock and scrotum roof sculptures all day long.

[Butcher]

Well...I, for one, didn't care for the giant cock. And I like the giant scrotum even less.

I just think that people didn't bitch about the previous format because that's how it always was. If it had gone from something like playing at a neutral site to alternating every other season, people would go bananas.

Anyway, feel free to keep your pet peeve. It's your pet peeve. Who am I to try and change it?

[Jody]

<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->Well...I, for one, didn't care for the giant cock. And I like the giant scrotum even less.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Anyone?