Bradley

[CCwinwssoon]

<!--quoteo(post=61613:date=Sep 3 2009, 06:05 PM:name=dk123)-->QUOTE (dk123 @ Sep 3 2009, 06:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Yeah, I still don't think Bradley is nearly the issue that he's being made out to be. Soriano, Soto, 2B, however....<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->


I would say they are all in the same boat but Bradley, as weird as it sounds, has the best chance of rebounding next year. I am hoping Bradley failed this year much like Alou failed the first year he was in Chicago. But he is still not a run producer we need and we have two very high paid guys that are much like the same. And then there is Soriano who I thought had very good seasons in 07 and 08 and now see what everyone was worried about with the long contract.

[PcB]

HE IS HURT! HE HAS BEEN MOST OF THE SEASON! THIS IS NOT THE REAL SORIANO! PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN!

and yes I meant to have the caps lock on.

[Ace]

If we're talking with the benefit of hindsight, I don't really see how anyone could argue that Abreu, Dunn and Ibanez ALL would have been MUCH better signings than Bradley.

With hindsight:

1. Dunn
2. Abreu (so freaking cheap for just one year)
3. Ibanez
4. Bradley

[PcB]

<!--quoteo(post=61635:date=Sep 3 2009, 07:36 PM:name=Ace)-->QUOTE (Ace @ Sep 3 2009, 07:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->If we're talking with the benefit of hindsight, I don't really see how anyone could argue that Abreu, Dunn and Ibanez ALL would have been MUCH better signings than Bradley.

With hindsight:

1. Dunn
2. Abreu (so freaking cheap for just one year)
3. Ibanez
4. Bradley<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
But speaking with the benefit of hindsight is pointless. At the time Bradley looked like the obvious choice. He had just led the A.L in OBP and is a far better defender than any of the other 3. We also didn't know that Abreu could be had for 5 mil. We knew Dunn and Ibanez would be just as expensive if not more than Bradley. He was the right signing IMO.

[dk123]

<!--quoteo(post=61632:date=Sep 3 2009, 07:33 PM:name=PcB)-->QUOTE (PcB @ Sep 3 2009, 07:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->HE IS HURT! HE HAS BEEN MOST OF THE SEASON! THIS IS NOT THE REAL SORIANO! PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN!

and yes I meant to have the caps lock on.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Too bad his injury is relatively minor, and supposedly only hurts when he runs. If he's that injured, he shouldn't have been playing.

[Ace]

<!--quoteo(post=61641:date=Sep 3 2009, 08:41 PM:name=PcB)-->QUOTE (PcB @ Sep 3 2009, 08:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=61635:date=Sep 3 2009, 07:36 PM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Sep 3 2009, 07:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->If we're talking with the benefit of hindsight, I don't really see how anyone could argue that Abreu, Dunn and Ibanez ALL would have been MUCH better signings than Bradley.

With hindsight:

1. Dunn
2. Abreu (so freaking cheap for just one year)
3. Ibanez
4. Bradley<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
But speaking with the benefit of hindsight is pointless. At the time Bradley looked like the obvious choice. He had just led the A.L in OBP and is a far better defender than any of the other 3. We also didn't know that Abreu could be had for 5 mil. We knew Dunn and Ibanez would be just as expensive if not more than Bradley. He was the right signing IMO.
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Without hindsight:

1. Dunn
2a. Bradley
2b. Abreu
4. Ibanez

That was me, anyway.

[PcB]

<!--quoteo(post=61643:date=Sep 3 2009, 07:44 PM:name=dk123)-->QUOTE (dk123 @ Sep 3 2009, 07:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=61632:date=Sep 3 2009, 07:33 PM:name=PcB)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PcB @ Sep 3 2009, 07:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->HE IS HURT! HE HAS BEEN MOST OF THE SEASON! THIS IS NOT THE REAL SORIANO! PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN!

and yes I meant to have the caps lock on.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Too bad his injury is relatively minor, and supposedly only hurts when he runs. If he's that injured, he shouldn't have been playing.
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I know he shouldn't be playing, but he's talking senile Lou into letting into the lineup.

[PcB]

<!--quoteo(post=61648:date=Sep 3 2009, 07:47 PM:name=Ace)-->QUOTE (Ace @ Sep 3 2009, 07:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=61641:date=Sep 3 2009, 08:41 PM:name=PcB)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PcB @ Sep 3 2009, 08:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=61635:date=Sep 3 2009, 07:36 PM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Sep 3 2009, 07:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->If we're talking with the benefit of hindsight, I don't really see how anyone could argue that Abreu, Dunn and Ibanez ALL would have been MUCH better signings than Bradley.

With hindsight:

1. Dunn
2. Abreu (so freaking cheap for just one year)
3. Ibanez
4. Bradley<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
But speaking with the benefit of hindsight is pointless. At the time Bradley looked like the obvious choice. He had just led the A.L in OBP and is a far better defender than any of the other 3. We also didn't know that Abreu could be had for 5 mil. We knew Dunn and Ibanez would be just as expensive if not more than Bradley. He was the right signing IMO.
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Without hindsight:

1. Dunn
2a. Bradley
2b. Abreu
4. Ibanez

That was me, anyway.
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If we put Dunn in RF it would be the worst OF in the history of baseball. That's the only reason I take Bradley over Dunn. Pure hitting? Dunn over any of the other 3 by a landslide.

[Kid]

<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->Milton Bradley thinks the Chicago media is hard on him, and says he prefers to read a "legit" news source like USA Today.

But no one has been tougher on Bradley this season than Cubs TV anyalyst Bob Brenly, who criticized the right-fielder for not running after slipping out of the batters box on Wednesday.

Now check out what Brenly said to WSCR-AM 670 about Bradley during an interview on the Cubs-Sox game on Thursday morning.:

“The bottom line is, just get the job done. He can point fingers and assign blame wherever he wants and laugh in the face of critics that he can swing the bat from the left side and he can stay healthy, but do it all year long, don’t just do it for a month of the season and proclaim yourself the guy we were looking for. I think Milton Bradley is a much better offensive player then we’ve seen this year, I just think he’s allowed too many distractions to get between his ears, I think he incorrectly blames everybody else for making him the lightning rod. Well if you don’t want to be the lightning rod, then don’t stand on the roof in a thunderstorm with a 1 iron in your hand …. Don’t call it upon yourself, and I think with some of his comments, he’s done that.”<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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[Coach]

FYI on Ibanez (everyone's first half darling) since the All Star Break:
AVG .212
OBP .307
SLG .390
OPS .697

[kbwsb]

<!--quoteo(post=61693:date=Sep 3 2009, 09:00 PM:name=Coach)-->QUOTE (Coach @ Sep 3 2009, 09:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->FYI on Ibanez (everyone's first half darling) since the All Star Break:
AVG .212
OBP .307
SLG .390
OPS .697<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Wow. Alf numbers.
I wonder what his numbers are from the exact day that he got called out as a possible roid user...until then, he was killing the ball.

I have no idea if Ibanez is dirty or clean; I do think that he is a 37-year old man, and that the 162 game season is designed for younger men.

[jeffy]

<!--quoteo(post=61682:date=Sep 3 2009, 07:49 PM:name=Article by Sullivan)-->QUOTE (Article by Sullivan @ Sep 3 2009, 07:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->But no one has been tougher on Bradley this season than Cubs TV anyalyst Bob Brenly<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I don't think that's accurate (no surprise since Sullivan wrote it). Sure, Bob has said a few things about Bradley when he hasn't hustled or when he threw the ball into the crowd (in specific situations when Bradley deserved criticism), but Brenly hasn't complained about Bradley continuously, which is what other morons such as Steve Stone and The Score staff have been doing, even when Bradley's been productive. They complain about Bradley every chance they get, which is something Bob hasn't done.

I don't really interpret Bob's quote in the article as him being "tough" on Bradley. He's bascially just giving him constructive advice, as opposed to complaining about Milton, which is what the other aforementioned douchebags have done excessively all year long.

[veryzer]

<!--quoteo(post=61682:date=Sep 3 2009, 08:49 PM:name=Kid)-->QUOTE (Kid @ Sep 3 2009, 08:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <!--quotec-->Milton Bradley thinks the Chicago media is hard on him, and says he prefers to read a "legit" news source like USA Today.

But no one has been tougher on Bradley this season than Cubs TV anyalyst Bob Brenly, who criticized the right-fielder for not running after slipping out of the batters box on Wednesday.

Now check out what Brenly said to WSCR-AM 670 about Bradley during an interview on the Cubs-Sox game on Thursday morning.:

“The bottom line is, just get the job done. He can point fingers and assign blame wherever he wants and laugh in the face of critics that he can swing the bat from the left side and he can stay healthy, but do it all year long, don’t just do it for a month of the season and proclaim yourself the guy we were looking for. I think Milton Bradley is a much better offensive player then we’ve seen this year, I just think he’s allowed too many distractions to get between his ears, I think he incorrectly blames everybody else for making him the lightning rod. Well if you don’t want to be the lightning rod, then don’t stand on the roof in a thunderstorm with a 1 iron in your hand …. Don’t call it upon yourself, and I think with some of his comments, he’s done that.”<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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see? brenley gets it big time. that's exactly what i've been saying.

[rok]

<!--quoteo(post=61727:date=Sep 4 2009, 01:08 AM:name=jeffy)-->QUOTE (jeffy @ Sep 4 2009, 01:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=61682:date=Sep 3 2009, 07:49 PM:name=Article by Sullivan)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Article by Sullivan @ Sep 3 2009, 07:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->But no one has been tougher on Bradley this season than Cubs TV anyalyst Bob Brenly<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I don't think that's accurate (no surprise since Sullivan wrote it). Sure, Bob has said a few things about Bradley when he hasn't hustled or when he threw the ball into the crowd (in specific situations when Bradley deserved criticism), but Brenly hasn't complained about Bradley continuously, which is what other morons such as Steve Stone and The Score staff have been doing, even when Bradley's been productive. They complain about Bradley every chance they get, which is something Bob hasn't done.

I don't really interpret Bob's quote in the article as him being "tough" on Bradley. He's bascially just giving him constructive advice, as opposed to complaining about Milton, which is what the other aforementioned douchebags have done excessively all year long.
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Bingo. I agree with Brenly on this, but he's hardly been Bradley's biggest critic. Not even close.

[jstraw]

I agree with Bradley. The baseball beat writers in Chicago really do suck.