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<!--quoteo(post=70413:date=Dec 1 2009, 02:23 PM:name=Coldneck)-->QUOTE (Coldneck @ Dec 1 2009, 02:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=70409:date=Dec 1 2009, 02:20 PM:name=Scarey)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Scarey @ Dec 1 2009, 02:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->What makes you guys think Halladay will only be looking for a 4 year deal? This is his last pay day, I'm thinking he's going to try to get as much as he can.
Also, 4 years at his age is quite a gamble. <b>I'd say it was at least as much a gamble as Bradley was, maybe even more</b>.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
That just wrong. There is no other way to put it.
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Bradley can at least be traded at this point. We'll see how it turns out, but he's at least tradable. With Halladay, if he starts wearing down (which is a high probability for a pitcher his age) it will be very hard to move a guy that makes between 18-22 million dollars per year.
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<!--quoteo(post=70416:date=Dec 1 2009, 01:35 PM:name=1060Ivy)-->QUOTE (1060Ivy @ Dec 1 2009, 01:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->According to Kaplan, Harden, Gregg and Johnson have been told they will not be offered arbitration.
So why did the Cubs shut him down for the last 3 weeks of the season? Did management need to be certain that he would be healthy for his next team?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Inexplicable. Completely. Especially since we were not out of the race.
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I'm not happy that we aren't offering Harden arbitration, but am hardly surprised by the decision.
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<!--quoteo(post=70419:date=Dec 1 2009, 01:51 PM:name=rok)-->QUOTE (rok @ Dec 1 2009, 01:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I'm not happy that we aren't offering Harden arbitration, but am hardly surprised by the decision.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The only reason I'm not surprised is that we've been hearing this would happen all along. That doesn't mean I think it's remotely correct or logical.
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<!--quoteo(post=70420:date=Dec 1 2009, 02:16 PM:name=The Dude)-->QUOTE (The Dude @ Dec 1 2009, 02:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=70419:date=Dec 1 2009, 01:51 PM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Dec 1 2009, 01:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I'm not happy that we aren't offering Harden arbitration, but am hardly surprised by the decision.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The only reason I'm not surprised is that we've been hearing this would happen all along. That doesn't mean I think it's remotely correct or logical.
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Well, the way he performed this past season and the fact that he's been so injury prone for so long, there really isn't a clear cut decision out of all this. That said, it is pretty low risk to offer him arbitration considering he's only a type B FA.
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I'm not at all happy with the decision, but Bruce Miles at least brings up a possibility as to why they didn't offer:
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<!--quoteo(post=70439:date=Dec 1 2009, 10:16 PM:name=BT)-->QUOTE (BT @ Dec 1 2009, 10:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I'm not at all happy with the decision, but Bruce Miles at least brings up a possibility as to why they didn't offer:
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Unless that information developed between the trading deadline and today (and it almost certainly didn't), it's a bs excuse. Hendry took the gamble that keeping Harden would vault the Cubs over five teams in the WC race in one month, and lost.
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<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->The Rangers sent Millwood to the Orioles for Ray and a player to be named later at the Winter Meetings. The player to be named could be the third pick in Thursday's Rule 5 Draft. Texas will also pick up $3 million of Millwood's $12 million salary for 2010, leaving it with a savings of about $7 million.
The Rangers will use that money to sign <b>Harden </b>to a one-year deal worth $7.5 million with an $11.5 million option for 2011. Harden was 9-9 with a 4.09 ERA in 26 starts with the Cubs this past season.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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RT @Evan_P_Grant: Harden's velo has been 86-91. Yesterday, had a long time to sit down in cold, wet weather. difficult time getting loose.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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RT @Evan_P_Grant: Harden's velo has been 86-91. Yesterday, had a long time to sit down in cold, wet weather. difficult time getting loose.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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Harden will get lit up in Texas.
He struggled in Texas throughout his career. Why? Maybe because he struggles to pitch in the heat.
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<!--quoteo(post=82276:date=Mar 10 2010, 04:02 PM:name=AnnoCatuli)-->QUOTE (AnnoCatuli @ Mar 10 2010, 04:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Harden will get lit up in Texas.
He struggled in Texas throughout his career. Why? Maybe because he struggles to pitch in the heat.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Everybody really, really struggles pitching there.
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