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I'd like to see someone like him signed to fill the 4th or 5th spot in the rotation.
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If I remember correctly he was pretty bad prior to last season. I'd be okay with him being a #5.
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I'd still rather have Sheets or Wang. We have too many #4/#5 types already. I'd prefer a higher risk/reward.
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I think Sheets is the best option out there right now, and I think he could be had on a pretty decent contract.
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What exactly happened to Wang? Why did he just completely lose his skill set?
If Angelo had picked McClellin, I would have been expecting to hear by training camp that kid has stage 4 cancer, is actually 5'2" 142 lbs, is a chick who played in a 7 - 0 defensive scheme who only rotated in on downs which were 3 and 34 yds + so is not expecting to play a down in the NFL until the sex change is complete and she puts on another 100 lbs. + but this is Emery's first pick so he'll get a pass with a bit of questioning. - 1060Ivy
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<!--quoteo(post=75043:date=Jan 9 2010, 01:17 AM:name=bz)-->QUOTE (bz @ Jan 9 2010, 01:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->What exactly happened to Wang? Why did he just completely lose his skill set?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I believe he had multiple arm issues. Not sure off the top of my head.
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<!--quoteo(post=75044:date=Jan 9 2010, 01:21 AM:name=PcB)-->QUOTE (PcB @ Jan 9 2010, 01:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=75043:date=Jan 9 2010, 01:17 AM:name=bz)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bz @ Jan 9 2010, 01:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->What exactly happened to Wang? Why did he just completely lose his skill set?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I believe he had multiple arm issues. Not sure off the top of my head.
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Holy shit! Did they just grow out of nowhere?
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<!--quoteo(post=75048:date=Jan 9 2010, 01:28 AM:name=bz)-->QUOTE (bz @ Jan 9 2010, 01:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=75044:date=Jan 9 2010, 01:21 AM:name=PcB)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PcB @ Jan 9 2010, 01:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=75043:date=Jan 9 2010, 01:17 AM:name=bz)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bz @ Jan 9 2010, 01:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->What exactly happened to Wang? Why did he just completely lose his skill set?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I believe he had multiple arm issues. Not sure off the top of my head.
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Holy shit! Did they just grow out of nowhere?
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I think so. He now has a few million people worshiping him.
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<!--quoteo(post=75044:date=Jan 9 2010, 01:21 AM:name=PcB)-->QUOTE (PcB @ Jan 9 2010, 01:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=75043:date=Jan 9 2010, 01:17 AM:name=bz)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bz @ Jan 9 2010, 01:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->What exactly happened to Wang? Why did he just completely lose his skill set?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I believe he had multiple arm issues. Not sure off the top of my head.
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The bad foot started the arm issues. Remember when he got hurt running the bases in that interleague game? That was the beginning of the problems.
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Did he actually have elbow or shoulder problems?
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Yeah, there was a shoulder issue after the foot thing, maybe caused by overcompensation from the foot injury.
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Shoulders scare the shit out of me, there is just not a good history of people coming back to pitch effectively after having bum shoulders.
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Let's sign Sheets, sign either Lopez or Hudson to play second base, and take a late look in the bargain bin for a decent bullpen arm and a back-up outfielder. I would be ecstatic about that for an offseason. Signing a second baseman means there will be no rushing Castro to the bigs. He will only get called up when his play says he is ready. If by the middle of next season he is ready we would be much better defensively up the middle with Castro and Hudson. Theriot can be moved for prospects, or something of need. Fontenot and Baker are both decent bench options.
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<!--quoteo(post=75121:date=Jan 9 2010, 11:53 AM:name=savant)-->QUOTE (savant @ Jan 9 2010, 11:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Let's sign Sheets, sign either Lopez or Hudson to play second base, and take a late look in the bargain bin for a decent bullpen arm and a back-up outfielder. I would be ecstatic about that for an offseason. Signing a second baseman means there will be no rushing Castro to the bigs. He will only get called up when his play says he is ready. If by the middle of next season he is ready we would be much better defensively up the middle with Castro and Hudson. Theriot can be moved for prospects, or something of need. Fontenot and Baker are both decent bench options.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Prefer Hudson to Lopez, but I'm way on board for all o' this...
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