Erik Bedard

[Runnys]

If we went and watched Sheets, Noah Lowry, and whoever else then why didn't we give Bedard a look? He just signed with Seattle for a one year contract for 1.5 million. It has incentives that could make it 7.5 million or so, but that would be a good thing if Seattle has to pay him that much.

I know he probably wouldn't have been ready until midseason, but hey, it would have been like trading for an All-Star [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/img]


Seriously though, why didn't we consider him at all? Seems like just the type of project Hendry loves and IF he could have come in at midseason that could have been huge for our rotation.

Oh well.


BTW, I can't wait until February 14th. Pitchers and Catchers report....yippeeeeeeeee!

[kbwsb]

Bedard is a chode, but you're right, he seems like the type of rehab/high ceiling guy that Jim usually likes to give a try. I would have liked the move.

[ruby23]

He might not even be able to pitch until after the ASB.

[rok]

I wouldn't have minded him at $1.5 mil because he probably still has a lot left IMO, but he isn't quite the type of mentally tough pitcher that we should be relying on for much aside from a few flashes of brilliance in between his DL stints.

[Runnys]

<!--quoteo(post=78767:date=Feb 6 2010, 01:47 PM:name=ruby23)-->QUOTE (ruby23 @ Feb 6 2010, 01:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->He might not even be able to pitch until after the ASB.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->


I understand that, but for 1.5 million I think it would have been worth a shot. Hell, we paid Dempster that to not pitch for a year IIRC.

[ruby23]

<!--quoteo(post=78780:date=Feb 6 2010, 04:47 PM:name=Runnys)-->QUOTE (Runnys @ Feb 6 2010, 04:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=78767:date=Feb 6 2010, 01:47 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Feb 6 2010, 01:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->He might not even be able to pitch until after the ASB.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->


I understand that, but for 1.5 million I think it would have been worth a shot. Hell, we paid Dempster that to not pitch for a year IIRC.
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And if he's remotely healthy or successful, the M's are gonna be paying him way more than that. The Cubs could have paid him $1.5 M to not pitch; but if he did anything decent(which would be the whole idea in the first place), they'd be on the hook way more than that.

[Runnys]

<!--quoteo(post=78795:date=Feb 7 2010, 12:51 AM:name=ruby23)-->QUOTE (ruby23 @ Feb 7 2010, 12:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=78780:date=Feb 6 2010, 04:47 PM:name=Runnys)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Runnys @ Feb 6 2010, 04:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=78767:date=Feb 6 2010, 01:47 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Feb 6 2010, 01:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->He might not even be able to pitch until after the ASB.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->


I understand that, but for 1.5 million I think it would have been worth a shot. Hell, we paid Dempster that to not pitch for a year IIRC.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
And if he's remotely healthy or successful, the M's are gonna be paying him way more than that. The Cubs could have paid him $1.5 M to not pitch; but if he did anything decent(which would be the whole idea in the first place), they'd be on the hook way more than that.
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So what was the downside? We pay 1.5 million and get nothing or we pay 7 million and get a stud for the 2nd half of the year. Again, i don't see what the downside would have been. If you are paying him a decent salary that means that he came back healthy and pitched well.

[Rappster]

<!--quoteo(post=78796:date=Feb 7 2010, 01:21 AM:name=Runnys)-->QUOTE (Runnys @ Feb 7 2010, 01:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=78795:date=Feb 7 2010, 12:51 AM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Feb 7 2010, 12:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=78780:date=Feb 6 2010, 04:47 PM:name=Runnys)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Runnys @ Feb 6 2010, 04:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=78767:date=Feb 6 2010, 01:47 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Feb 6 2010, 01:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->He might not even be able to pitch until after the ASB.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->


I understand that, but for 1.5 million I think it would have been worth a shot. Hell, we paid Dempster that to not pitch for a year IIRC.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
And if he's remotely healthy or successful, the M's are gonna be paying him way more than that. The Cubs could have paid him $1.5 M to not pitch; but if he did anything decent(which would be the whole idea in the first place), they'd be on the hook way more than that.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

So what was the downside? We pay 1.5 million and get nothing or we pay 7 million and get a stud for the 2nd half of the year. Again, i don't see what the downside would have been. If you are paying him a decent salary that means that he came back healthy and pitched well.
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SHUT UP, RUNNYS! JUST SHUT UP YOUR FUCKING FACE!

[jstraw]

<!--quoteo(post=78848:date=Feb 7 2010, 07:36 PM:name=Rappster)-->QUOTE (Rappster @ Feb 7 2010, 07:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=78796:date=Feb 7 2010, 01:21 AM:name=Runnys)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Runnys @ Feb 7 2010, 01:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=78795:date=Feb 7 2010, 12:51 AM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Feb 7 2010, 12:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=78780:date=Feb 6 2010, 04:47 PM:name=Runnys)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Runnys @ Feb 6 2010, 04:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=78767:date=Feb 6 2010, 01:47 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Feb 6 2010, 01:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->He might not even be able to pitch until after the ASB.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->


I understand that, but for 1.5 million I think it would have been worth a shot. Hell, we paid Dempster that to not pitch for a year IIRC.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
And if he's remotely healthy or successful, the M's are gonna be paying him way more than that. The Cubs could have paid him $1.5 M to not pitch; but if he did anything decent(which would be the whole idea in the first place), they'd be on the hook way more than that.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

So what was the downside? We pay 1.5 million and get nothing or we pay 7 million and get a stud for the 2nd half of the year. Again, i don't see what the downside would have been. If you are paying him a decent salary that means that he came back healthy and pitched well.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

SHUT UP, RUNNYS! JUST SHUT UP YOUR FUCKING FACE!
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

You're pissed because he's right.

[ruby23]

<!--quoteo(post=78796:date=Feb 7 2010, 01:21 AM:name=Runnys)-->QUOTE (Runnys @ Feb 7 2010, 01:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=78795:date=Feb 7 2010, 12:51 AM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Feb 7 2010, 12:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=78780:date=Feb 6 2010, 04:47 PM:name=Runnys)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Runnys @ Feb 6 2010, 04:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=78767:date=Feb 6 2010, 01:47 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Feb 6 2010, 01:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->He might not even be able to pitch until after the ASB.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->


I understand that, but for 1.5 million I think it would have been worth a shot. Hell, we paid Dempster that to not pitch for a year IIRC.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
And if he's remotely healthy or successful, the M's are gonna be paying him way more than that. The Cubs could have paid him $1.5 M to not pitch; but if he did anything decent(which would be the whole idea in the first place), they'd be on the hook way more than that.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

So what was the downside? We pay 1.5 million and get nothing or we pay 7 million and get a stud for the 2nd half of the year. Again, i don't see what the downside would have been. If you are paying him a decent salary that means that he came back healthy and pitched well.
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The downside is that there isn't $7 M (it's actually around $8.5 M) to spend in the first place. You can't pay someone with $$$ that doesn't exist. If the Cubs had an extra $7 M laying around, they wouldn't be going into the season with Sloth and King Hippo fighting for the 5th spot in the rotation.

[ruby23]

<!--quoteo(post=78861:date=Feb 7 2010, 09:46 PM:name=jstraw)-->QUOTE (jstraw @ Feb 7 2010, 09:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=78848:date=Feb 7 2010, 07:36 PM:name=Rappster)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rappster @ Feb 7 2010, 07:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=78796:date=Feb 7 2010, 01:21 AM:name=Runnys)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Runnys @ Feb 7 2010, 01:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=78795:date=Feb 7 2010, 12:51 AM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Feb 7 2010, 12:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=78780:date=Feb 6 2010, 04:47 PM:name=Runnys)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Runnys @ Feb 6 2010, 04:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=78767:date=Feb 6 2010, 01:47 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Feb 6 2010, 01:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->He might not even be able to pitch until after the ASB.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->


I understand that, but for 1.5 million I think it would have been worth a shot. Hell, we paid Dempster that to not pitch for a year IIRC.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
And if he's remotely healthy or successful, the M's are gonna be paying him way more than that. The Cubs could have paid him $1.5 M to not pitch; but if he did anything decent(which would be the whole idea in the first place), they'd be on the hook way more than that.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

So what was the downside? We pay 1.5 million and get nothing or we pay 7 million and get a stud for the 2nd half of the year. Again, i don't see what the downside would have been. If you are paying him a decent salary that means that he came back healthy and pitched well.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

SHUT UP, RUNNYS! JUST SHUT UP YOUR FUCKING FACE!
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

You're pissed because he's right.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Or 100% wrong.

[jstraw]

<!--quoteo(post=78864:date=Feb 7 2010, 10:33 PM:name=ruby23)-->QUOTE (ruby23 @ Feb 7 2010, 10:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=78861:date=Feb 7 2010, 09:46 PM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Feb 7 2010, 09:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=78848:date=Feb 7 2010, 07:36 PM:name=Rappster)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rappster @ Feb 7 2010, 07:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=78796:date=Feb 7 2010, 01:21 AM:name=Runnys)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Runnys @ Feb 7 2010, 01:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=78795:date=Feb 7 2010, 12:51 AM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Feb 7 2010, 12:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=78780:date=Feb 6 2010, 04:47 PM:name=Runnys)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Runnys @ Feb 6 2010, 04:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=78767:date=Feb 6 2010, 01:47 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Feb 6 2010, 01:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->He might not even be able to pitch until after the ASB.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->


I understand that, but for 1.5 million I think it would have been worth a shot. Hell, we paid Dempster that to not pitch for a year IIRC.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
And if he's remotely healthy or successful, the M's are gonna be paying him way more than that. The Cubs could have paid him $1.5 M to not pitch; but if he did anything decent(which would be the whole idea in the first place), they'd be on the hook way more than that.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

So what was the downside? We pay 1.5 million and get nothing or we pay 7 million and get a stud for the 2nd half of the year. Again, i don't see what the downside would have been. If you are paying him a decent salary that means that he came back healthy and pitched well.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

SHUT UP, RUNNYS! JUST SHUT UP YOUR FUCKING FACE!
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

You're pissed because he's right.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Or 100% wrong.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Everything has to be either egg nog or hubcaps with you. Never any middle-ground. Sometimes a penis is just a cigar. Freud said that.

[ruby23]

<!--quoteo(post=78866:date=Feb 7 2010, 10:48 PM:name=jstraw)-->QUOTE (jstraw @ Feb 7 2010, 10:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=78864:date=Feb 7 2010, 10:33 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Feb 7 2010, 10:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=78861:date=Feb 7 2010, 09:46 PM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Feb 7 2010, 09:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=78848:date=Feb 7 2010, 07:36 PM:name=Rappster)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rappster @ Feb 7 2010, 07:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=78796:date=Feb 7 2010, 01:21 AM:name=Runnys)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Runnys @ Feb 7 2010, 01:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=78795:date=Feb 7 2010, 12:51 AM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Feb 7 2010, 12:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=78780:date=Feb 6 2010, 04:47 PM:name=Runnys)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Runnys @ Feb 6 2010, 04:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=78767:date=Feb 6 2010, 01:47 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Feb 6 2010, 01:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->He might not even be able to pitch until after the ASB.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->


I understand that, but for 1.5 million I think it would have been worth a shot. Hell, we paid Dempster that to not pitch for a year IIRC.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
And if he's remotely healthy or successful, the M's are gonna be paying him way more than that. The Cubs could have paid him $1.5 M to not pitch; but if he did anything decent(which would be the whole idea in the first place), they'd be on the hook way more than that.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

So what was the downside? We pay 1.5 million and get nothing or we pay 7 million and get a stud for the 2nd half of the year. Again, i don't see what the downside would have been. If you are paying him a decent salary that means that he came back healthy and pitched well.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

SHUT UP, RUNNYS! JUST SHUT UP YOUR FUCKING FACE!
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

You're pissed because he's right.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Or 100% wrong.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Everything has to be either egg nog or hubcaps with you. Never any middle-ground. Sometimes a penis is just a cigar. Freud said that.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes. Get used to it.

[dk123]

This just got me thinking about how many dumb signings the Mariners have made over the last few years.

[Rappster]

<!--quoteo(post=78866:date=Feb 7 2010, 10:48 PM:name=jstraw)-->QUOTE (jstraw @ Feb 7 2010, 10:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=78864:date=Feb 7 2010, 10:33 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Feb 7 2010, 10:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=78861:date=Feb 7 2010, 09:46 PM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Feb 7 2010, 09:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=78848:date=Feb 7 2010, 07:36 PM:name=Rappster)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rappster @ Feb 7 2010, 07:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=78796:date=Feb 7 2010, 01:21 AM:name=Runnys)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Runnys @ Feb 7 2010, 01:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=78795:date=Feb 7 2010, 12:51 AM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Feb 7 2010, 12:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=78780:date=Feb 6 2010, 04:47 PM:name=Runnys)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Runnys @ Feb 6 2010, 04:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=78767:date=Feb 6 2010, 01:47 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Feb 6 2010, 01:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->He might not even be able to pitch until after the ASB.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->


I understand that, but for 1.5 million I think it would have been worth a shot. Hell, we paid Dempster that to not pitch for a year IIRC.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
And if he's remotely healthy or successful, the M's are gonna be paying him way more than that. The Cubs could have paid him $1.5 M to not pitch; but if he did anything decent(which would be the whole idea in the first place), they'd be on the hook way more than that.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

So what was the downside? We pay 1.5 million and get nothing or we pay 7 million and get a stud for the 2nd half of the year. Again, i don't see what the downside would have been. If you are paying him a decent salary that means that he came back healthy and pitched well.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

SHUT UP, RUNNYS! JUST SHUT UP YOUR FUCKING FACE!
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

You're pissed because he's right.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Or 100% wrong.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Everything has to be either egg nog or hubcaps with you. Never any middle-ground. Sometimes a penis is just a cigar. Freud said that.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Yeah...but, he was trying to smoke a penis at the time.