Why did we trade Rafael Palmeiro, back in the day?
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Why did we trade Rafael Palmeiro, back in the day?
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02-11-2010, 02:31 PM
Were we stocked in LF?
There's nothing better than to realize that the good things about youth don't end with youth itself. It's a matter of realizing that life can be renewed every day you get out of bed without baggage. It's tough to get there, but it's better than the dark thoughts. -Lance
02-11-2010, 02:38 PM
<!--quoteo(post=79280:date=Feb 11 2010, 12:31 PM:name=KBwsb)-->QUOTE (KBwsb @ Feb 11 2010, 12:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Were we stocked in LF?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
For some reason I thought I remembered the Cubs thinking of him as a first baseman, and having to choose between him and Grace. They didn't think Raffy had enough power. He showed them they were wrong, but looks like if the Cubs had simply roided him up, it would have worked. As far as the OF goes, we had the runner up for the Rookie of the year award in LF that year, the rookie of the year in CF, and a Hall of Famer in his prime in RF (or at least 2 years off of his MVP season), so our OF was actually pretty stocked.
I wish that I believed in Fate. I wish I didn't sleep so late. I used to be carried in the arms of cheerleaders.
02-11-2010, 02:38 PM
If you believe the legend, it's because he was having an affair with Cindy Sandberg and he needed to get shipped off. I'm thinking that isn't the real reason, though.
02-11-2010, 02:39 PM
<!--quoteo(post=79282:date=Feb 11 2010, 12:38 PM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Feb 11 2010, 12:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->If you believe the legend, it's because he was having an affair with Cindy Sandberg and he needed to get shipped off. I'm thinking that isn't the real reason, though.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I thought that was Dave Martinez? Or were multiple guys trying to get into her corn cob dress?
I wish that I believed in Fate. I wish I didn't sleep so late. I used to be carried in the arms of cheerleaders.
02-11-2010, 02:42 PM
<!--quoteo(post=79283:date=Feb 11 2010, 12:39 PM:name=BT)-->QUOTE (BT @ Feb 11 2010, 12:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=79282:date=Feb 11 2010, 12:38 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Feb 11 2010, 12:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->If you believe the legend, it's because he was having an affair with Cindy Sandberg and he needed to get shipped off. I'm thinking that isn't the real reason, though.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I thought that was Dave Martinez? Or were multiple guys trying to get into her corn cob dress? <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Both of them.
02-11-2010, 02:43 PM
Damn, I had forgotten that our young outfielders came in at # 1 and 2 in the '89 Rookie of the Year voting. Did they <i>both</i> have to suck for the rest of their careers?!
There's nothing better than to realize that the good things about youth don't end with youth itself. It's a matter of realizing that life can be renewed every day you get out of bed without baggage. It's tough to get there, but it's better than the dark thoughts. -Lance
02-11-2010, 02:46 PM
<!--quoteo(post=79285:date=Feb 11 2010, 12:43 PM:name=KBwsb)-->QUOTE (KBwsb @ Feb 11 2010, 12:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Damn, I had forgotten that our young outfielders came in at # 1 and 2 in the '89 Rookie of the Year voting. Did they <i>both</i> have to suck for the rest of their careers?!<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Dwight Smith would have remained a productive player had he not worn his knees out. He turned into a decent PH. Walton was just a headcase.
02-11-2010, 02:48 PM
<!--quoteo(post=79282:date=Feb 11 2010, 12:38 PM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Feb 11 2010, 12:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->If you believe the legend, it's because he was having an affair with Cindy Sandberg and he needed to get shipped off. I'm thinking that isn't the real reason, though.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
My understanding was that Cubs management saw Grace and Palmeiro as similar players - contact hitters, lower power with good defense - they choose to stick with Grace after the Sandberg affair came to the surface. Palmeiro was torn up by the traded. He was banging an acquaintance of mine and showed up at her place that evening in tears. He didn't believe that the Cubs would trade him.
02-11-2010, 02:53 PM
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->He was banging an acquaintance of mine<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
An "acquaintance?" [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif[/img] Man...Raffy got around.
02-11-2010, 03:01 PM
Raffy was a contact hitter with little power before we traded him. He wnet to Texas and found some juice and the rest is history.
02-11-2010, 03:04 PM
Palmeiro didn't start to demonstrate much power until 1991, though his doubles totals shot up between 1988-90. You'd have thought that someone in the organization could have foreseen a jump in slugging eventually for him.
02-11-2010, 03:12 PM
<!--quoteo(post=79291:date=Feb 11 2010, 01:04 PM:name=rok)-->QUOTE (rok @ Feb 11 2010, 01:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Palmeiro didn't start to demonstrate much power until 1991, though his doubles totals shot up between 1988-90. You'd have thought that someone in the organization could have foreseen a jump in slugging eventually for him.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Why? Mark Grace showed doubles power, but that wasn't indicative of a future home run surge. I think if you are making up a list of "guys whose power surges were foreseeable", Palmeiro, McGwire and Sosa should rank pretty far down on that list.
I wish that I believed in Fate. I wish I didn't sleep so late. I used to be carried in the arms of cheerleaders.
02-11-2010, 03:13 PM
Palmeiro was more than a "contact hitter," even when on the Cubs.
In his last year on the Cubs, as a 23 year-old, he was an All-Star, and finished 2nd in the league in hitting (to Tony Gwynn). That's not the type of guy you trade away.
There's nothing better than to realize that the good things about youth don't end with youth itself. It's a matter of realizing that life can be renewed every day you get out of bed without baggage. It's tough to get there, but it's better than the dark thoughts. -Lance
02-11-2010, 03:22 PM
<!--quoteo(post=79295:date=Feb 11 2010, 01:15 PM:name=ruby23)-->QUOTE (ruby23 @ Feb 11 2010, 01:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->He had a moustache, he had to go.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
That was Cindy's merkin. |
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