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Z to the Pen
<!--quoteo(post=93189:date=Apr 28 2010, 07:43 AM:name=Ace)-->QUOTE (Ace @ Apr 28 2010, 07:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->You seriously, seriously have to wonder: does doing this kind of thing *ever* work?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

That one was really weird.
I'm 100% fine with this. I'm just glad there's an actual plan in place that isn't, "Let's load up on retreads and hope we get lucky." I'm a little tired of that plan.



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Carlos Zambrano ... long reliever.
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<!--quoteo(post=96639:date=May 17 2010, 10:51 PM:name=Kid)-->QUOTE (Kid @ May 17 2010, 10:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Carlos Zambrano ... long reliever.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Where's this coming from? What is this, 1974?
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Apparently Lou announced it after the game. It may be with an eye towards moving him back to the rotation, but at least for now, he's in long relief.
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<!--quoteo(post=96641:date=May 17 2010, 10:53 PM:name=Kid)-->QUOTE (Kid @ May 17 2010, 10:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Apparently Lou announced it after the game. It may be with an eye towards moving him back to the rotation, but at least for now, he's in long relief.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->


So now we are going to use him even less than we were? Next step is sending him down to AAA to get stretched back out to go back into the rotation [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif[/img]
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Don't get me wrong, I am all for moving him back to the rotation. This is just something that has been fucked up from the beginning...he never should have been taken out in the first place.
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<!--quoteo(post=96641:date=May 17 2010, 10:53 PM:name=Kid)-->QUOTE (Kid @ May 17 2010, 10:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Apparently Lou announced it after the game. It may be with an eye towards moving him back to the rotation, but at least for now, he's in long relief.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I didn't know that in this era "long relief" even existed, except to kill innings during blowouts. It's become job for your worst pitchers.

So a starter gets lit up and Z comes in for last out in the third, with two runners on and trailing by five, to stop the bleeding and pitch four or five thankless innings.

I think Lou is TRYING to make Z's head explode.
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<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->Carlos Zambrano is moving out of his set-up role and into a long relief role, manager Lou Piniella announced after Monday's 4-2 win over Colorado.

Will Big Z eventually rejoin the rotation?

"Down the road, if need be," manager Lou Piniella said.

There's no timetable on the move to the rotation, but the Cubs have basically acknowledged that 'Big Z to the bullpen' was a big flop. He's 0-1 with a 6.23 earned-run average in eight appearances since moving to the bullpen on April 21.

"Look, we thought the outcome would be a little different, and he's not as comfortable in the bullpen pitching short," Piniella said. "So we're going to use him in a different role, give him some stamina, build up his arm."

Zambrano has virtually no trade value as a reliever, and very little value as a starter because of his $18 million salary and alarmingly mediocre numbers.

"It's their choice," Zambrano said. "If they want to send me to the minor league to work, I will work in the minor league."

Piniella didn't care to elaborate, but said he's comfortable with two lefty set-up men in Marshall and Grabow.

"We're staying as left-handed as we can, if you've seen how we've been doing this," he said. "Marshall has done just a really superb job. Grabow, tonight, it was his (lack of) command. It wasn't the fact they hit him. We're staying left-handed in those roles, but we are changing Zambrano's role."

Zambrano said he just "wants to help the team." The decision was made on Monday morning, and Zambrano took batting practice with the starters on Monday afternoon.

"We'll see how everything works in the next few outings for me," he said. "(Tuesday) will be a big day in the bullpen for me."

The move of Zambrano was one of the most controversial moves Piniella has made in his four years as Cubs manager. He said the move was made out of necessity since the Cubs had no right-hander who was succeeding in the seventh or eighth innings.

Now that Marshall has begun to dominate, Piniella will trust him with the role that Zambrano couldn't hold.

Zambrano insisted he did a "pretty decent job" in the role, despite the poor numbers.

"I can't complain," he said.

He said he's only doing what he's told to do.

"This is a business and they're the boss," he said. "If the boss wants me to go close games, I go close games. If they want me to close games, I close games. if the boss wants me to start again, I start again. It's up to them. It's their choice."<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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Unfuckingbelievable. Can we at least change Grabow's role to mop up duty while we are at it?
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Zambrano is bat shit crazy as it is...so now we are going to fuck around with him even more and piss him off...great idea!
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The Cubs treatment of Zambrano this season could be the dumbest thing in the history of sports. It's fucking unfathomable, and both Lou and Hendry should be shown the door sooner rather than later.
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Oh wait, I get it now. The Cubs are trying to show Zambrano how annoying it is to deal with someone who is batshit crazy, by outbatshitcrazying him.
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insane... are they going to rely on grabow more!!???
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<!--quoteo(post=96663:date=May 18 2010, 12:34 AM:name=satchel)-->QUOTE (satchel @ May 18 2010, 12:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->insane... are they going to rely on grabow more!!???<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

The only thing Grabow should be relied on is for showing up. Beyond that, I wouldn't put him into a game unless we were like 10 down or more than 5 ahead. He should assume Patton's role from last year IMO. He's clearly lost command and needs mop-up work to regain his confidence and his form. His efforts last year were great for us, but his numbers from last year aren't adding up to squat this season.
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there is something wrong with Zambrano, and the Cubs don't want to talk about it. I have no idea what, but I think the Cubs are seeing something we are not. Making him an 8th inning guy was justifiable. This makes no sense.
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