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Shep is right, but I gotta side with Butcher on this one anyway. I hate interleague play, I hate the Cubs/White Sox series, and I have a very difficult time watching the games. I liked baseball the way it used to be. I liked playing the Dodgers and the Mets 4 or more times a year. Don't we play something like 18 interleague games this year? That's nuts. Who wants to see the Mariners and the Rangers?
It drives me crazy that we have to play the White Sox 6 times a year. The fact that they've turned this into some kind of meaningless competition just solidifies the fact that it's never going away. plus it panders to the stupid who think this really matters somehow.
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I find it interesting that the two guys who live in L.A. (Sheps and Destined) see this as a good thing. And why is that? Maybe it's because Sheps and Destined live thousands of miles away and don't have to deal with the bullshit from Sox fans that guys in Chicago (rok, BT, veryzer, me) have to deal with.
I feel like maybe I'm not properly explaining my position, either.
- The games fucking blow. The atmosphere at Wrigley (and at the Cell, I assume) is ugly and venomous. I don't even plan on attending one of these games again, and I would never in a million years bring one of my kids to a Cubs/Sox game. Can this be a good thing for either team? For baseball?
- Yes -- I want the Cubs to win the games against the Sox, but not because of some sort of Chicago Pride -- it's because if the Cubs lose, I have to put up with all of the bullshit for the next week. It makes me want to call in sick. I want the Cubs to win -- not because I want to rub it in a Sox fan's face, but because I just want everyone to shut the fuck up about it.
- Cubs/Cards and Cubs/Brewers are more important rivalries -- and rivalries that actually make sense. I'd rather have three more games with each of those teams than 6 games with the White Sox. And I would take my kids to Cubs/Cards and Cubs/Brewers games. The opposing fans from those two fanbases at Wrigley aren't nearly as brash and aggressive.
- Interleague play, in general, is fucking stupid.
I recognize that it isn't going away -- especially now that the teams are playing for a fucking BP-sponsored trophy. For some reason, people seem to like this series. I'll never understand it, though.
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->But you're a great example of the intense feelings that illustrate it's a very real rivalry, that's my point.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Wrong. I don't hate the White Sox because of some sort of rivalry. I just want them to go away because I'm sick of dealing with the idiotic douchebags who feel the need to rub the 2005 World Series in my face. You don't see the difference? I hate the Cards, and to some degree, the Brewers because we're competing for the NL Central title every season. That's a rivalry that makes sense -- and I enjoy those rivalries. What are the Cubs and Sox playing for? Fucking bragging rights? Come the fuck on.
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->Maybe you can argue they should hate it, but they don't. That's all I'm trying to get people to acknowledge here. More people want to watch those games more than any other games during the regular season. I'm not always a fan of the populist approach, but when it comes to mass entertainment, it's gotta count for something.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
But you recognize that the rivalry is bullshit, right? People like these games (I assume) because of the carnival-like atmosphere and they want to watch AJ (Pierzynski, not Burnett) get all bent out of shape or maybe get punched by one of the Cubs. It's not because of some sort of age-old tradition. What's the tradition? An exhibition game that we used to play once a year where our bench players would match up against their bench players?
And if ratings/hype is what is driving this, then we need to push to bring the Red Sox and Yankees to town more often. I guarantee those series both had higher ratings than any Cubs/Sox series ever had. Oh -- and I actually had fun at those games.
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<!--quoteo(post=93510:date=Apr 29 2010, 10:08 AM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Apr 29 2010, 10:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I find it interesting that the two guys who live in L.A. (Sheps and Destined) see this as a good thing. And why is that? Maybe it's because Sheps and Destined live thousands of miles away and don't have to deal with the bullshit from Sox fans that guys in Chicago (rok, BT, veryzer, me) have to deal with.
I feel like maybe I'm not properly explaining my position, either.
- The games fucking blow. The atmosphere at Wrigley (and at the Cell, I assume) is ugly and venomous. I don't even plan on attending one of these games again, and I would never in a million years bring one of my kids to a Cubs/Sox game. Can this be a good thing for either team? For baseball?
- Yes -- I want the Cubs to win the games against the Sox, but not because of some sort of Chicago Pride -- it's because if the Cubs lose, I have to put up with all of the bullshit for the next week. It makes me want to call in sick. I want the Cubs to win -- not because I want to rub it in a Sox fan's face, but because I just want everyone to shut the fuck up about it.
- Cubs/Cards and Cubs/Brewers are more important rivalries -- and rivalries that actually make sense. I'd rather have three more games with each of those teams than 6 games with the White Sox. And I would take my kids to Cubs/Cards and Cubs/Brewers games. The opposing fans from those two fanbases at Wrigley aren't nearly as brash and aggressive.
- Interleague play, in general, is fucking stupid.
I recognize that it isn't going away -- especially now that the teams are playing for a fucking BP-sponsored trophy. For some reason, people seem to like this series. I'll never understand it, though.
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <!--quotec-->But you're a great example of the intense feelings that illustrate it's a very real rivalry, that's my point.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Wrong. I don't hate the White Sox because of some sort of rivalry. I just want them to go away because I'm sick of dealing with the idiotic douchebags who feel the need to rub the 2005 World Series in my face. You don't see the difference? I hate the Cards, and to some degree, the Brewers because we're competing for the NL Central title every season. That's a rivalry that makes sense -- and I enjoy those rivalries. What are the Cubs and Sox playing for? Fucking bragging rights? Come the fuck on.
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->Maybe you can argue they should hate it, but they don't. That's all I'm trying to get people to acknowledge here. More people want to watch those games more than any other games during the regular season. I'm not always a fan of the populist approach, but when it comes to mass entertainment, it's gotta count for something.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
But you recognize that the rivalry is bullshit, right? People like these games (I assume) because of the carnival-like atmosphere and they want to watch AJ (Pierzynski, not Burnett) get all bent out of shape or maybe get punched by one of the Cubs. It's not because of some sort of age-old tradition. What's the tradition? An exhibition game that we used to play once a year where our bench players would match up against their bench players?
And if ratings/hype is what is driving this, then we need to push to bring the Red Sox and Yankees to town more often. I guarantee those series both had higher ratings than any Cubs/Sox series ever had. Oh -- and I actually had fun at those games.
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While I'm understandably not as worked up about this as Butcher (living far away), I agree with every word.
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<!--quoteo(post=93511:date=Apr 29 2010, 10:16 AM:name=jstraw)-->QUOTE (jstraw @ Apr 29 2010, 10:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=93510:date=Apr 29 2010, 10:08 AM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Apr 29 2010, 10:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I find it interesting that the two guys who live in L.A. (Sheps and Destined) see this as a good thing. And why is that? Maybe it's because Sheps and Destined live thousands of miles away and don't have to deal with the bullshit from Sox fans that guys in Chicago (rok, BT, veryzer, me) have to deal with.
I feel like maybe I'm not properly explaining my position, either.
- The games fucking blow. The atmosphere at Wrigley (and at the Cell, I assume) is ugly and venomous. I don't even plan on attending one of these games again, and I would never in a million years bring one of my kids to a Cubs/Sox game. Can this be a good thing for either team? For baseball?
- Yes -- I want the Cubs to win the games against the Sox, but not because of some sort of Chicago Pride -- it's because if the Cubs lose, I have to put up with all of the bullshit for the next week. It makes me want to call in sick. I want the Cubs to win -- not because I want to rub it in a Sox fan's face, but because I just want everyone to shut the fuck up about it.
- Cubs/Cards and Cubs/Brewers are more important rivalries -- and rivalries that actually make sense. I'd rather have three more games with each of those teams than 6 games with the White Sox. And I would take my kids to Cubs/Cards and Cubs/Brewers games. The opposing fans from those two fanbases at Wrigley aren't nearly as brash and aggressive.
- Interleague play, in general, is fucking stupid.
I recognize that it isn't going away -- especially now that the teams are playing for a fucking BP-sponsored trophy. For some reason, people seem to like this series. I'll never understand it, though.
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <!--quotec-->But you're a great example of the intense feelings that illustrate it's a very real rivalry, that's my point.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Wrong. I don't hate the White Sox because of some sort of rivalry. I just want them to go away because I'm sick of dealing with the idiotic douchebags who feel the need to rub the 2005 World Series in my face. You don't see the difference? I hate the Cards, and to some degree, the Brewers because we're competing for the NL Central title every season. That's a rivalry that makes sense -- and I enjoy those rivalries. What are the Cubs and Sox playing for? Fucking bragging rights? Come the fuck on.
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->Maybe you can argue they should hate it, but they don't. That's all I'm trying to get people to acknowledge here. More people want to watch those games more than any other games during the regular season. I'm not always a fan of the populist approach, but when it comes to mass entertainment, it's gotta count for something.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
But you recognize that the rivalry is bullshit, right? People like these games (I assume) because of the carnival-like atmosphere and they want to watch AJ (Pierzynski, not Burnett) get all bent out of shape or maybe get punched by one of the Cubs. It's not because of some sort of age-old tradition. What's the tradition? An exhibition game that we used to play once a year where our bench players would match up against their bench players?
And if ratings/hype is what is driving this, then we need to push to bring the Red Sox and Yankees to town more often. I guarantee those series both had higher ratings than any Cubs/Sox series ever had. Oh -- and I actually had fun at those games.
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While I'm understandably not as worked up about this as Butcher (living far away), I agree with every word.
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Me too.
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What I don't understand is what is the logical reason NOT to have White Sox/Cubs games every year. I don't think the powers that be are going to accept "because it makes Butcher's life miserable for two weeks out of the year". If I was in a position to do something about it Butcher, I would make an effort.
Other than that, what's the logical explanation? The only one I can think of is the fact that the record against the AL is low on the list of tie breakers. I just don't think that's a good enough reason to cease the extra revenue from Cubs/Sox games.
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I'm going to one of the Cubs-Sox games. I have bleacher seats. I'm excited. It'll be fun if they win. It'll suck if they lose. That's all I got.
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<!--quoteo(post=93515:date=Apr 29 2010, 10:50 AM:name=Scarey)-->QUOTE (Scarey @ Apr 29 2010, 10:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->What I don't understand is what is the logical reason NOT to have White Sox/Cubs games every year. I don't think the powers that be are going to accept "because it makes Butcher's life miserable for two weeks out of the year". If I was in a position to do something about it Butcher, I would make an effort.
Other than that, what's the logical explanation? The only one I can think of is the fact that the record against the AL is low on the list of tie breakers. I just don't think that's a good enough reason to cease the extra revenue from Cubs/Sox games.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Because there's no reason to play any inter-league matchup every year, let alone twice every year. When it rolls around during the natural progression of inter-league play...then fine. Then people that want to treat it like a big deal, can. I don't care.
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<!--quoteo(post=93515:date=Apr 29 2010, 10:50 AM:name=Scarey)-->QUOTE (Scarey @ Apr 29 2010, 10:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->What I don't understand is what is the logical reason NOT to have White Sox/Cubs games every year. I don't think the powers that be are going to accept "because it makes Butcher's life miserable for two weeks out of the year". If I was in a position to do something about it Butcher, I would make an effort.
Other than that, what's the logical explanation? The only one I can think of is the fact that the record against the AL is low on the list of tie breakers. I just don't think that's a good enough reason to cease the extra revenue from Cubs/Sox games.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Here's the most logical reason from the Cubs' standpoint, and I've already mentioned it.
We play .486 baseball against the White Sox. The Cardinals play .589 baseball against the Royals. The Cardinals are our biggest rival and competition in the NL Central. We're giving them a built-in advantage every single season (however slight) by playing this retarded series.
If the extra revenue is more important than that, I don't know what to tell you.
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<!--quoteo(post=93514:date=Apr 29 2010, 10:49 AM:name=veryzer)-->QUOTE (veryzer @ Apr 29 2010, 10:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=93511:date=Apr 29 2010, 10:16 AM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Apr 29 2010, 10:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=93510:date=Apr 29 2010, 10:08 AM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Apr 29 2010, 10:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I find it interesting that the two guys who live in L.A. (Sheps and Destined) see this as a good thing. And why is that? Maybe it's because Sheps and Destined live thousands of miles away and don't have to deal with the bullshit from Sox fans that guys in Chicago (rok, BT, veryzer, me) have to deal with.
I feel like maybe I'm not properly explaining my position, either.
- The games fucking blow. The atmosphere at Wrigley (and at the Cell, I assume) is ugly and venomous. I don't even plan on attending one of these games again, and I would never in a million years bring one of my kids to a Cubs/Sox game. Can this be a good thing for either team? For baseball?
- Yes -- I want the Cubs to win the games against the Sox, but not because of some sort of Chicago Pride -- it's because if the Cubs lose, I have to put up with all of the bullshit for the next week. It makes me want to call in sick. I want the Cubs to win -- not because I want to rub it in a Sox fan's face, but because I just want everyone to shut the fuck up about it.
- Cubs/Cards and Cubs/Brewers are more important rivalries -- and rivalries that actually make sense. I'd rather have three more games with each of those teams than 6 games with the White Sox. And I would take my kids to Cubs/Cards and Cubs/Brewers games. The opposing fans from those two fanbases at Wrigley aren't nearly as brash and aggressive.
- Interleague play, in general, is fucking stupid.
I recognize that it isn't going away -- especially now that the teams are playing for a fucking BP-sponsored trophy. For some reason, people seem to like this series. I'll never understand it, though.
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <!--quotec-->But you're a great example of the intense feelings that illustrate it's a very real rivalry, that's my point.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Wrong. I don't hate the White Sox because of some sort of rivalry. I just want them to go away because I'm sick of dealing with the idiotic douchebags who feel the need to rub the 2005 World Series in my face. You don't see the difference? I hate the Cards, and to some degree, the Brewers because we're competing for the NL Central title every season. That's a rivalry that makes sense -- and I enjoy those rivalries. What are the Cubs and Sox playing for? Fucking bragging rights? Come the fuck on.
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->Maybe you can argue they should hate it, but they don't. That's all I'm trying to get people to acknowledge here. More people want to watch those games more than any other games during the regular season. I'm not always a fan of the populist approach, but when it comes to mass entertainment, it's gotta count for something.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
But you recognize that the rivalry is bullshit, right? People like these games (I assume) because of the carnival-like atmosphere and they want to watch AJ (Pierzynski, not Burnett) get all bent out of shape or maybe get punched by one of the Cubs. It's not because of some sort of age-old tradition. What's the tradition? An exhibition game that we used to play once a year where our bench players would match up against their bench players?
And if ratings/hype is what is driving this, then we need to push to bring the Red Sox and Yankees to town more often. I guarantee those series both had higher ratings than any Cubs/Sox series ever had. Oh -- and I actually had fun at those games.
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While I'm understandably not as worked up about this as Butcher (living far away), I agree with every word.
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Me too.
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<!--quoteo(post=93510:date=Apr 29 2010, 11:08 AM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Apr 29 2010, 11:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I find it interesting that the two guys who live in L.A. (Sheps and Destined) see this as a good thing. And why is that? Maybe it's because Sheps and Destined live thousands of miles away and don't have to deal with the bullshit from Sox fans that guys in Chicago (rok, BT, veryzer, me) have to deal with.
I feel like maybe I'm not properly explaining my position, either.
- The games fucking blow. The atmosphere at Wrigley (and at the Cell, I assume) is ugly and venomous. I don't even plan on attending one of these games again, and I would never in a million years bring one of my kids to a Cubs/Sox game. Can this be a good thing for either team? For baseball?
- Yes -- I want the Cubs to win the games against the Sox, but not because of some sort of Chicago Pride -- it's because if the Cubs lose, I have to put up with all of the bullshit for the next week. It makes me want to call in sick. I want the Cubs to win -- not because I want to rub it in a Sox fan's face, but because I just want everyone to shut the fuck up about it.
- Cubs/Cards and Cubs/Brewers are more important rivalries -- and rivalries that actually make sense. I'd rather have three more games with each of those teams than 6 games with the White Sox. And I would take my kids to Cubs/Cards and Cubs/Brewers games. The opposing fans from those two fanbases at Wrigley aren't nearly as brash and aggressive.
- Interleague play, in general, is fucking stupid.
I recognize that it isn't going away -- especially now that the teams are playing for a fucking BP-sponsored trophy. For some reason, people seem to like this series. I'll never understand it, though.
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <!--quotec-->But you're a great example of the intense feelings that illustrate it's a very real rivalry, that's my point.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Wrong. I don't hate the White Sox because of some sort of rivalry. I just want them to go away because I'm sick of dealing with the idiotic douchebags who feel the need to rub the 2005 World Series in my face. You don't see the difference? I hate the Cards, and to some degree, the Brewers because we're competing for the NL Central title every season. That's a rivalry that makes sense -- and I enjoy those rivalries. What are the Cubs and Sox playing for? Fucking bragging rights? Come the fuck on.
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->Maybe you can argue they should hate it, but they don't. That's all I'm trying to get people to acknowledge here. More people want to watch those games more than any other games during the regular season. I'm not always a fan of the populist approach, but when it comes to mass entertainment, it's gotta count for something.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
But you recognize that the rivalry is bullshit, right? People like these games (I assume) because of the carnival-like atmosphere and they want to watch AJ (Pierzynski, not Burnett) get all bent out of shape or maybe get punched by one of the Cubs. It's not because of some sort of age-old tradition. What's the tradition? An exhibition game that we used to play once a year where our bench players would match up against their bench players?
And if ratings/hype is what is driving this, then we need to push to bring the Red Sox and Yankees to town more often. I guarantee those series both had higher ratings than any Cubs/Sox series ever had. Oh -- and I actually had fun at those games.
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This may be your all time best post. At least in the top 5.
I'm 100% fine with this. I'm just glad there's an actual plan in place that isn't, "Let's load up on retreads and hope we get lucky." I'm a little tired of that plan.
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Hear, hear, Butcher.
Don't forget the utter ignominy of having half of the series being called by Hawk "There's No Catchphrase to Banal, and DJ Gives Me Anal; You Can Put it on the Board, YES!" Harrelson.
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Is there any other sport on earth that <i>doesn't</i> have all the teams competing against each other?
Inter-league play is not going away.
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<!--quoteo(post=93535:date=Apr 29 2010, 11:38 AM:name=KBwsb)-->QUOTE (KBwsb @ Apr 29 2010, 11:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Is there any other sport on earth that <i>doesn't</i> have all the teams competing against each other?
Inter-league play is not going away.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Football. I mean, they only play some of them just like baseball.
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<!--quoteo(post=93535:date=Apr 29 2010, 11:38 AM:name=KBwsb)-->QUOTE (KBwsb @ Apr 29 2010, 11:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Is there any other sport on earth that <i>doesn't</i> have all the teams competing against each other?
Inter-league play is not going away.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
From all of this, that's the loose thread you decided to pull on?
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<!--quoteo(post=93526:date=Apr 29 2010, 11:10 AM:name=BT)-->QUOTE (BT @ Apr 29 2010, 11:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=93514:date=Apr 29 2010, 10:49 AM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Apr 29 2010, 10:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=93511:date=Apr 29 2010, 10:16 AM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Apr 29 2010, 10:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=93510:date=Apr 29 2010, 10:08 AM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Apr 29 2010, 10:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I find it interesting that the two guys who live in L.A. (Sheps and Destined) see this as a good thing. And why is that? Maybe it's because Sheps and Destined live thousands of miles away and don't have to deal with the bullshit from Sox fans that guys in Chicago (rok, BT, veryzer, me) have to deal with.
I feel like maybe I'm not properly explaining my position, either.
- The games fucking blow. The atmosphere at Wrigley (and at the Cell, I assume) is ugly and venomous. I don't even plan on attending one of these games again, and I would never in a million years bring one of my kids to a Cubs/Sox game. Can this be a good thing for either team? For baseball?
- Yes -- I want the Cubs to win the games against the Sox, but not because of some sort of Chicago Pride -- it's because if the Cubs lose, I have to put up with all of the bullshit for the next week. It makes me want to call in sick. I want the Cubs to win -- not because I want to rub it in a Sox fan's face, but because I just want everyone to shut the fuck up about it.
- Cubs/Cards and Cubs/Brewers are more important rivalries -- and rivalries that actually make sense. I'd rather have three more games with each of those teams than 6 games with the White Sox. And I would take my kids to Cubs/Cards and Cubs/Brewers games. The opposing fans from those two fanbases at Wrigley aren't nearly as brash and aggressive.
- Interleague play, in general, is fucking stupid.
I recognize that it isn't going away -- especially now that the teams are playing for a fucking BP-sponsored trophy. For some reason, people seem to like this series. I'll never understand it, though.
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <!--quotec-->But you're a great example of the intense feelings that illustrate it's a very real rivalry, that's my point.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Wrong. I don't hate the White Sox because of some sort of rivalry. I just want them to go away because I'm sick of dealing with the idiotic douchebags who feel the need to rub the 2005 World Series in my face. You don't see the difference? I hate the Cards, and to some degree, the Brewers because we're competing for the NL Central title every season. That's a rivalry that makes sense -- and I enjoy those rivalries. What are the Cubs and Sox playing for? Fucking bragging rights? Come the fuck on.
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->Maybe you can argue they should hate it, but they don't. That's all I'm trying to get people to acknowledge here. More people want to watch those games more than any other games during the regular season. I'm not always a fan of the populist approach, but when it comes to mass entertainment, it's gotta count for something.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
But you recognize that the rivalry is bullshit, right? People like these games (I assume) because of the carnival-like atmosphere and they want to watch AJ (Pierzynski, not Burnett) get all bent out of shape or maybe get punched by one of the Cubs. It's not because of some sort of age-old tradition. What's the tradition? An exhibition game that we used to play once a year where our bench players would match up against their bench players?
And if ratings/hype is what is driving this, then we need to push to bring the Red Sox and Yankees to town more often. I guarantee those series both had higher ratings than any Cubs/Sox series ever had. Oh -- and I actually had fun at those games.
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While I'm understandably not as worked up about this as Butcher (living far away), I agree with every word.
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Me too.
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