Zambrano

[vitaminB]

<!--quoteo(post=110388:date=Aug 10 2010, 10:05 AM:name=Scarey)-->QUOTE (Scarey @ Aug 10 2010, 10:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=110382:date=Aug 10 2010, 08:41 AM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Aug 10 2010, 08:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=110378:date=Aug 10 2010, 07:54 AM:name=stevestonescigar)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (stevestonescigar @ Aug 10 2010, 07:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->No they wouldn't. That's not good or even decent.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I have to agree. I watched the entire game up through Z's exit, and while the velocity and movement were nice and all, he was VERY lucky not to have given up at least 5 runs. At one point his strike/ball ratio was around 2/3 and even that was better than he actually looked. Anyway, I realize it is his first start back and he wasn't stretched out properly at all before this, but NO pitcher can expect to win on a consistent basis falling behind just about every hitter.

There was an AB early in the game, against Huff I believe, where Z clearly got hosed on 2 missed strike calls and then he ended up walking him, and Z seemed to never recover from that. So much for anger management. Same Z as always, and it really pains me to say it.
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I think you're probably right that the missed strike calls affected him, by what does that have to do with anger?
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It's what he does, and it's why he'll never be an effective starter in this league again. The same thing happened on opening day. The outfield misplayed a ball. He let it get to him, and then he just starts chucking the ball to the plate rapid fire style. Things aren't going his way so he gives up in frustration.

[willis]

7 walks... [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/toilet.gif[/img]

How in the hell did he only give up 2 runs? I guess that's semi impressive. 7 walks and 2 runs over 5 innings. Effectively wild? Or just plain insane? I go the insane route. Holy crap that's insane.

[rok]

<!--quoteo(post=110388:date=Aug 10 2010, 09:05 AM:name=Scarey)-->QUOTE (Scarey @ Aug 10 2010, 09:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=110382:date=Aug 10 2010, 08:41 AM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Aug 10 2010, 08:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=110378:date=Aug 10 2010, 07:54 AM:name=stevestonescigar)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (stevestonescigar @ Aug 10 2010, 07:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->No they wouldn't. That's not good or even decent.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I have to agree. I watched the entire game up through Z's exit, and while the velocity and movement were nice and all, he was VERY lucky not to have given up at least 5 runs. At one point his strike/ball ratio was around 2/3 and even that was better than he actually looked. Anyway, I realize it is his first start back and he wasn't stretched out properly at all before this, but NO pitcher can expect to win on a consistent basis falling behind just about every hitter.

There was an AB early in the game, against Huff I believe, where Z clearly got hosed on 2 missed strike calls and then he ended up walking him, and Z seemed to never recover from that. So much for anger management. Same Z as always, and it really pains me to say it.
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I think you're probably right that the missed strike calls affected him, by what does that have to do with anger?
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Because whether he blows up or not, he still seems to easily get flustered and lose focus, which affects his mechanics more times than not. And isn't a major part of anger management to learn to manage stressful situations and maintain control so that it doesn't (or at least minimally) affect your performance?

[BT]

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How in the hell did he only give up 2 runs? I guess that's semi impressive. 7 walks and 2 runs over 5 innings. Effectively wild? Or just plain insane? I go the insane route. Holy crap that's insane.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Double plays, and rocket shots hit right at DeWitt. It was a pretty bad outing. Here's hoping his next one plays out a little better.

[Coldneck]

So much for Z being held to 80 pitches. He threw 95. His WHIP is now a shittastic 1.79.

[Destined]

<!--quoteo(post=110380:date=Aug 10 2010, 06:34 AM:name=veryzer)-->QUOTE (veryzer @ Aug 10 2010, 06:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->When I said that was pretty good, I meant Destined's guess was pretty good. Zambrano's actual line blew.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
[img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img] Close enough.

[willis]

<!--quoteo(post=110395:date=Aug 10 2010, 09:24 AM:name=BT)-->QUOTE (BT @ Aug 10 2010, 09:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=110392:date=Aug 10 2010, 09:13 AM:name=willis)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (willis @ Aug 10 2010, 09:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->7 walks... [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/toilet.gif[/img]

How in the hell did he only give up 2 runs? I guess that's semi impressive. 7 walks and 2 runs over 5 innings. Effectively wild? Or just plain insane? I go the insane route. Holy crap that's insane.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Double plays, and rocket shots hit right at DeWitt. It was a pretty bad outing. Here's hoping his next one plays out a little better.
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Yeah I didn't see the game, had to follow it on the computer. It did seem like there were a lot of line drive outs. I had to think there was some luck involved to give up 2 with 7 walks.

[leonardsipes]

I was watching the game on tv in a bar near the stadium. It seemed to me, that Zambrano looked good. As soon as he threw the wild pitch, I went out on the patio. From all the cheering I heard, I thought the Giants were running away. I was suprised to come back in the 8th 3-3.

Zambrano threw over 90 pitches. I think that was too much for him. Considering the layoff, I think it was an ok effort.

[cigar]

It's not like he hasn't been pitching for a few weeks now. This layoff talk is bullshit. He gave up 11 baserunners in 5 fucking innings. That's a little over 2 per inning. That is flat out terrible. He was lucky more than anything last night.

[Coach]

<!--quoteo(post=110455:date=Aug 10 2010, 02:58 PM:name=stevestonescigar)-->QUOTE (stevestonescigar @ Aug 10 2010, 02:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->It's not like he hasn't been pitching for a few weeks now. This layoff talk is bullshit. He gave up 11 baserunners in 5 fucking innings. That's a little over 2 per inning. That is flat out terrible. He was lucky more than anything last night.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
But that takes blame off of Zambrano.....

[Ace]

<!--quoteo(post=110402:date=Aug 10 2010, 10:36 AM:name=Destined)-->QUOTE (Destined @ Aug 10 2010, 10:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=110380:date=Aug 10 2010, 06:34 AM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Aug 10 2010, 06:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->When I said that was pretty good, I meant Destined's guess was pretty good. Zambrano's actual line blew.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
[img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img] Close enough.
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Ha, whoops. My bust.

[rok]

Z bobblehead day on September 3rd. Why?

[Jody]

Ok, why is he playing soccer?

[Coldneck]

<!--quoteo(post=111998:date=Aug 23 2010, 12:29 PM:name=Jody)-->QUOTE (Jody @ Aug 23 2010, 12:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Ok, why is he playing soccer?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
because he sucks at baseball.

[vitaminB]

<!--quoteo(post=111996:date=Aug 23 2010, 12:28 PM:name=rok)-->QUOTE (rok @ Aug 23 2010, 12:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Z bobblehead day on September 3rd. Why?

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They probably had them ready to go during the World Cup, but Z was in Iowa.