Zambrano

[willis]

Guys, his pitch count tonight is limited to 80. So, seeing he throws a billion pitches an inning and walks people like mad...

2 2/3 IP

4 hits

4 er

3 walks

3 Ks

Loss

[funkster]

And two broken gatorade coolers.

[Destined]

5 IP
4 H
2 ER
5 K
4 BB

ND

[BT]

I bet he walks the pitcher on 4 pitches in the second inning.

[jstraw]

DeWitt can play 2B.

[Auz]

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[veryzer]

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4 H
2 ER
5 K
4 BB

ND<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

This was pretty good.

[jstraw]

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4 H
2 ER
5 K
4 BB

ND<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

This was pretty good.
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Any starter with the layoff he'd had would be ok with that as a return start.

[Coach]

7 walks? Run scored on a WP? 9/24 first pitch strikes?
Welcome back, Z.

[Ace]

<!--quoteo(post=110370:date=Aug 10 2010, 07:48 AM:name=jstraw)-->QUOTE (jstraw @ Aug 10 2010, 07:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=110369:date=Aug 10 2010, 06:24 AM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Aug 10 2010, 06:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=110335:date=Aug 9 2010, 03:44 PM:name=Destined)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Destined @ Aug 9 2010, 03:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->5 IP
4 H
2 ER
5 K
4 BB

ND<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

This was pretty good.
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Any starter with the layoff he'd had would be ok with that as a return start.
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Except that it was 7 BB, not 4. That makes 4 hits and 7 BB in just 5 innings - that's unbelievably bad. Usually you'd give up about 5 or 6 runs if you did that.

[jstraw]

<!--quoteo(post=110372:date=Aug 10 2010, 06:57 AM:name=Ace)-->QUOTE (Ace @ Aug 10 2010, 06:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=110370:date=Aug 10 2010, 07:48 AM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Aug 10 2010, 07:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=110369:date=Aug 10 2010, 06:24 AM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Aug 10 2010, 06:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=110335:date=Aug 9 2010, 03:44 PM:name=Destined)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Destined @ Aug 9 2010, 03:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->5 IP
4 H
2 ER
5 K
4 BB

ND<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

This was pretty good.
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Any starter with the layoff he'd had would be ok with that as a return start.
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Except that it was 7 BB, not 4. That makes 4 hits and 7 BB in just 5 innings - that's unbelievably bad. Usually you'd give up about 5 or 6 runs if you did that.
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Yeah but any starter with the layoff he'd had would be ok with <i>that </i>as a return start.

[cigar]

No they wouldn't. That's not good or even decent.

[veryzer]

When I said that was pretty good, I meant Destined's guess was pretty good. Zambrano's actual line blew.

[rok]

<!--quoteo(post=110378:date=Aug 10 2010, 07:54 AM:name=stevestonescigar)-->QUOTE (stevestonescigar @ Aug 10 2010, 07:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->No they wouldn't. That's not good or even decent.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I have to agree. I watched the entire game up through Z's exit, and while the velocity and movement were nice and all, he was VERY lucky not to have given up at least 5 runs. At one point his strike/ball ratio was around 2/3 and even that was better than he actually looked. Anyway, I realize it is his first start back and he wasn't stretched out properly at all before this, but NO pitcher can expect to win on a consistent basis falling behind just about every hitter.

There was an AB early in the game, against Huff I believe, where Z clearly got hosed on 2 missed strike calls and then he ended up walking him, and Z seemed to never recover from that. So much for anger management. Same Z as always, and it really pains me to say it.

[Scarey]

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I have to agree. I watched the entire game up through Z's exit, and while the velocity and movement were nice and all, he was VERY lucky not to have given up at least 5 runs. At one point his strike/ball ratio was around 2/3 and even that was better than he actually looked. Anyway, I realize it is his first start back and he wasn't stretched out properly at all before this, but NO pitcher can expect to win on a consistent basis falling behind just about every hitter.

There was an AB early in the game, against Huff I believe, where Z clearly got hosed on 2 missed strike calls and then he ended up walking him, and Z seemed to never recover from that. So much for anger management. Same Z as always, and it really pains me to say it.
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I think you're probably right that the missed strike calls affected him, by what does that have to do with anger?