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Well, this is certainly a shocker.
In a surprise move, the Cubs are about to strike a deal with WLS-Ch.7 to broadcast a portion of the team's schedule through 2019.
The ABC-owned station is expected to carry 25 games per season beginning in April. The station would have its pick of games, which would air in primetime, daytime and weekends. The deal is expected to be finalized within days, according to sources.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/b...story.html
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The good thing about this is a great holiday gift for family outside of Chicago is an extra innings package subscription. I think I'll get my dad and brother-in-law one.
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The issue with Extra Innings is they usually only show games from RSNs like CSN or FSN, and not local broadcast channels. They probably would not show Cubs broadcasts on WGN or WLS. So those WGN/WLS games would probably only be on EI under the opposing team's broadcast.
On the other hand, MLB.TV shows both teams' broadcast of every game, no matter what channel it's from.
One note with that is that I think at least the cable version of EI last year included an MLB.TV subscription. I didn't get that last year, but if they do it again, I might do it this year.
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According to the twitters, the Cubs are getting $750K per game for the WLS broadcasts. Which is considered market value.
So how much was WGN paying per game? How much did they say they were losing on the Cubs?
Fuck that shit, lying-ass cheating motherfuckers!
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Quote:According to the twitters, the Cubs are getting $750K per game for the WLS broadcasts. Which is considered market value.
So how much was WGN paying per game? How much did they say they were losing on the Cubs?
Fuck that shit, lying-ass cheating motherfuckers!
I read that the WLS deal allows them to have first pick of the 25 games. I'd imagine that those games are substantially more valuable than say, games 75-100.
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According to the twitters, the Cubs are getting $750K per game for the WLS broadcasts. Which is considered market value.
So how much was WGN paying per game? How much did they say they were losing on the Cubs?
Fuck that shit, lying-ass cheating motherfuckers!
I read that the WLS deal allows them to have first pick of the 25 games. I'd imagine that those games are substantially more valuable than say, games 75-100.
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Except that WLS is an ABC owned-and-operated station (not just an affiliate). They are not going to be able to go take a bunch of prime time games because it would completely fuck with their TV schedule. We'll see what happens when the TV schedule comes out, but I'm betting it's mostly weekends and day games for WLS.
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According to the twitters, the Cubs are getting $750K per game for the WLS broadcasts. Which is considered market value.
So how much was WGN paying per game? How much did they say they were losing on the Cubs?
Fuck that shit, lying-ass cheating motherfuckers!
I read that the WLS deal allows them to have first pick of the 25 games. I'd imagine that those games are substantially more valuable than say, games 75-100.
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Except that WLS is an ABC owned-and-operated station (not just an affiliate). They are not going to be able to go take a bunch of prime time games because it would completely fuck with their TV schedule. We'll see what happens when the TV schedule comes out, but I'm betting it's mostly weekends and day games for WLS.
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That's a good point.
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According to the twitters, the Cubs are getting $750K per game for the WLS broadcasts. Which is considered market value.
So how much was WGN paying per game? How much did they say they were losing on the Cubs?
Fuck that shit, lying-ass cheating motherfuckers!
I read that the WLS deal allows them to have first pick of the 25 games. I'd imagine that those games are substantially more valuable than say, games 75-100.
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Believe that I've read that WGN was paying 250k per game and said that they were losing 200k per game.
The pick of the schedule most likely makes a difference and as most of the games occur in summer when original programming traditionally has a lull, the opportunity may provide some upside for WLS.
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Quote:The issue with Extra Innings is they usually only show games from RSNs like CSN or FSN, and not local broadcast channels. They probably would not show Cubs broadcasts on WGN or WLS. So those WGN/WLS games would probably only be on EI under the opposing team's broadcast.
On the other hand, MLB.TV shows both teams' broadcast of every game, no matter what channel it's from.
One note with that is that I think at least the cable version of EI last year included an MLB.TV subscription. I didn't get that last year, but if they do it again, I might do it this year.
Yes, good point, the WCIU broadcasts were never part of it, so I assume neither will WLS, which means you get to know a lot of other team's announcers. For me though I like having the games on TV because I can record them and comfortably fast-forward. Has anyone used MLB.TV through something like a Roku or a Apple TV? I would try it via Roku this season to get the Cubs feed if it's easy to navigate through games, as I usually like to start a game an hour in or so to save time by fast forwarding through commercials and boring sections.
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The WGN numbers are bullshit. They were not losing money. They are straight up lying.
If they were paying $250K per game for 81 games or whatever, and there were 25 "prime" games that are market valued at $750K, those 25 games alone would have earned them more money than the remaining 56.
According to WGN they only got back 50K per game. Using 81 games (i don't know how many they actually had), 81 * 50,000 = 4.05 Million.
If at a minimum, 25 of those games were "prime" then at least for those games they received the full $250 in ad revs. 25 * 250,000 = 6.25 million. (I can make this reasonable assumption since another station from the same market just paid 3X more for these same games)
Again, on the open market, 25 games alone = $18.75 Million. That is a verifiable FACT. If the WGN numbers were truthful, how in the fuck would WLS be willing to pay 3X more for something that couldn't even pull in $250K per game on the most "desirable" nights/days/weekends/what-the-fuck-ever?
WGN has been fucking over the Cubs ever since Trib Co. bought them. They have been using their great big corp structure to play a shell game to hide money EARNED BY and OWED TO the Cubs. Now that they no longer have the protection of the mother ship, the Cubs can now demand them to pay market value or get the fuck out.
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The issue with Extra Innings is they usually only show games from RSNs like CSN or FSN, and not local broadcast channels. They probably would not show Cubs broadcasts on WGN or WLS. So those WGN/WLS games would probably only be on EI under the opposing team's broadcast.
On the other hand, MLB.TV shows both teams' broadcast of every game, no matter what channel it's from.
One note with that is that I think at least the cable version of EI last year included an MLB.TV subscription. I didn't get that last year, but if they do it again, I might do it this year.
Yes, good point, the WCIU broadcasts were never part of it, so I assume neither will WLS, which means you get to know a lot of other team's announcers. For me though I like having the games on TV because I can record them and comfortably fast-forward. Has anyone used MLB.TV through something like a Roku or a Apple TV? I would try it via Roku this season to get the Cubs feed if it's easy to navigate through games, as I usually like to start a game an hour in or so to save time by fast forwarding through commercials and boring sections.
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I've watched on both, though I watch live. However, I think they both have fast forward options. In fact, I think they have the ability to let you jump to a particular half-inning (there's always a setting on the device to hide the score, so you won't know what the score is as you jump around).
This is not some silly theory that's unsupported and deserves being mocked by photos of Xena.
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I hope WGN ends up with the worst 45 games now, after this deal. All Tuesday day games against the dregs of MLB.
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Quote:<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Kid" data-cid="233017" data-time="1418389421">
The issue with Extra Innings is they usually only show games from RSNs like CSN or FSN, and not local broadcast channels. They probably would not show Cubs broadcasts on WGN or WLS. So those WGN/WLS games would probably only be on EI under the opposing team's broadcast.
On the other hand, MLB.TV shows both teams' broadcast of every game, no matter what channel it's from.
One note with that is that I think at least the cable version of EI last year included an MLB.TV subscription. I didn't get that last year, but if they do it again, I might do it this year.
Yes, good point, the WCIU broadcasts were never part of it, so I assume neither will WLS, which means you get to know a lot of other team's announcers. For me though I like having the games on TV because I can record them and comfortably fast-forward. Has anyone used MLB.TV through something like a Roku or a Apple TV? I would try it via Roku this season to get the Cubs feed if it's easy to navigate through games, as I usually like to start a game an hour in or so to save time by fast forwarding through commercials and boring sections. </blockquote>
I have a Roku and have MLBTV, it was great. You can start the games from the beginning or pick an inning to start at. It is nice being able to listen to our own announcers. I may be biased, but, there are a lot of teams out there that have awful announcers. Honestly, I would recommend MLBTV over EI.
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