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One small, only-relevant-to-me-so-I'm-not-even-sure-why-I'm-sharing-except-that-I'm-bummed-today consolation is that Pete Crow-Armstrong played at my son's little league. One of the coaches who was there at the time was stoked that "Petey" was the centerpiece of such a big deal and said he was a great kid. Another told me he saw him play once for Harvard-Westlake HS and said he was a beast. At least I can try to sell my son on getting excited for him?
Have your son start watching the 2006-2010 Heroes and introduce him to Crow-Armstrong's parents.
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Nice! I hadn't thought about Heroes for years until the other night we were watching "Never Have I Ever" (which is good by the way) and my wife out of nowhere identified the dad as Mohinder, a name I hadn't thought about in ages. That was a good show for awhile.
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Today sucks ass for Cubs fans, and the the Ricketts are horrible people who need to be eaten by wolves.
I love you, Slaw.
My wife and I just bought tickets for the Cubs @ Twins at the end of August. I dont drink often or heavily anymore, but I might have to make that game my own personal Irish wake.
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I used to love Desipio, but I find myself more and more irritated with him. I used to find him hilarious when he'd shit on other team's and their players, but the 700 tweets a day shitting on Cubs players and how much he hates the team has really rubbed me wrong. I'm bummed enough about the direction this team has gone in, I don't need him to endlessly rub salt in the wound. I'm not real sure why he's still a fan, nothing they do seems to make him happy.
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Ugh, Ive never liked that Desipio dude.
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Quote:If Kimbrel is on the mound for the last out of the World Series this year I will never fucking forgive Hoyer. This is the trade that is pissing me off the most. What a stupid fucking trade. Literally every contending team wouldve wanted to add Kimbrel and we trade him to the fucking White Sox for fucking Madrigal? Jesus Christ.
Kimbrel's grandchildren will be pitching in the ML the next time the White Sox win a World Series.
I sincerely think youre over-valuing Kimbrel and under-valuing Madrigal here.
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Kimbrel is currently the best closer in baseball. And he isnt a rental he has a team option for 2022. He shortens the game, which is huge in October. Every single contending team is looking for bullpen help at the trade deadline. Sell me on Madrigal, please. The more I read about him, the more I already hate him. He doesnt strike out? Wonderful. He also cant hit a fly ball to the warning track and doesnt take walks. Oh, and his defense is trash. Hoyer got abused by Hahn on this trade theres no other way to look at it.
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Butch, I can't believe we're talking about the same Nick Madrigal. His defense was absolutely fine (some might even say good!) this year; anyone telling you different is probably going off of his SSS from last year. I think the trade is fair, perhaps in the Cubs favor. The idea that Hahn took Hoyer is fantastical.
And Kimbrel has been outstanding this year, sure, but he wasn't in 2019 nor 2020, and Madrigal and Heuer are players with major track records, not proven prospects. I can't help but think that if this same trade was done but it was with the Rangers instead of the White Sox, you'd be fine with this trade.
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https://pointlessexercise.substack.com/p...e-all-gone
I used to love Desipio, but I find myself more and more irritated with him. I used to find him hilarious when he'd shit on other team's and their players, but the 700 tweets a day shitting on Cubs players and how much he hates the team has really rubbed me wrong. I'm bummed enough about the direction this team has gone in, I don't need him to endlessly rub salt in the wound. I'm not real sure why he's still a fan, nothing they do seems to make him happy.</blockquote>
Couldn't have said it better myself. I had to delete the Pointless Exercise pod back in the offseason. Excruciating listen.
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https://pointlessexercise.substack.com/p...e-all-gone
I used to love Desipio, but I find myself more and more irritated with him. I used to find him hilarious when he'd shit on other team's and their players, but the 700 tweets a day shitting on Cubs players and how much he hates the team has really rubbed me wrong. I'm bummed enough about the direction this team has gone in, I don't need him to endlessly rub salt in the wound. I'm not real sure why he's still a fan, nothing they do seems to make him happy.</blockquote>
Couldn't have said it better myself. I had to delete the Pointless Exercise pod back in the offseason. Excruciating listen.</blockquote>
His schtick can get old, for sure, but I didnt disagree with a single word of that article. Did you?
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Quote:Butch, I can't believe we're talking about the same Nick Madrigal. His defense was absolutely fine (some might even say good!) this year; anyone telling you different is probably going off of his SSS from last year. I think the trade is fair, perhaps in the Cubs favor. The idea that Hahn took Hoyer is fantastical.
And Kimbrel has been outstanding this year, sure, but he wasn't in 2019 nor 2020, and Madrigal and Heuer are players with major track records, not proven prospects. I can't help but think that if this same trade was done but it was with the Rangers instead of the White Sox, you'd be fine with this trade.
To be fair, I havent seen much of his actual play. So maybe his weakness on defense is overblown. But Ive seen his baseball reference page and I know for certain that if Nico and Nico Jr is our double play combo, we are fucked. You might have been able to get away with a 2B and SS who combine for 4 home runs back in the 70s, but not anymore.
You also have to look at Kimbrels value in context. What type of player helps a playoff team more in October than an absolute lockdown reliever? He was our most valuable trade chip and he isnt even really a rental. And this was the best Hoyer could get in return? He got fleeced. Theres no other way to look at it. Its embarrassing how badly he got fleeced.
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https://pointlessexercise.substack.com/p...e-all-gone
I used to love Desipio, but I find myself more and more irritated with him. I used to find him hilarious when he'd shit on other team's and their players, but the 700 tweets a day shitting on Cubs players and how much he hates the team has really rubbed me wrong. I'm bummed enough about the direction this team has gone in, I don't need him to endlessly rub salt in the wound. I'm not real sure why he's still a fan, nothing they do seems to make him happy.</blockquote>Couldn't have said it better myself. I had to delete the Pointless Exercise pod back in the offseason. Excruciating listen.</blockquote>His schtick can get old, for sure, but I didnt disagree with a single word of that article. Did you?</blockquote>It's all his opinion so I'm not sure what I'm even agreeing or disagreeing with. I don't agree that the Rickettses ordered Jed to sell off. I mean they also included money in many of these trades, so it wasn't primarily financially driven. Other than never wanting to trade with the Sox ever, I'm also not sure that Madrigal is being evaluated properly. He's always been known as a decent defensive 2B, and I acknowledge that he has little power, but he's hit everywhere. The game is changing again, so it's hard for me to determine his long-term value without putting it into context with how Jed plans to construct the rest of the roster. I agree though that a middle infield of Hoerner and Madrigal scares me defensively, but we'll see. And despite the Kimbrel Renaissance, he isn't anywhere close to a sure thing. His wildness has returned since the ASG, and scouts I'm sure have picked up on this. It wasn't that long ago that we were talking about him being a sunk cost. I don't think we were fleeced on this or any of the other trades. Maybe I'm delusional or heartless, but I was 100% ready to move on from this core. I've been ready for probably 3 years since the offense broke. I will love Rizzo, Javy and KB forever, but it's a cruel business and I highly doubt Jed bumbled into any of these deals or was being pushed by ownership to deal anyone. Still fuck the Rickettses either way.
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https://pointlessexercise.substack.com/p...e-all-gone
I used to love Desipio, but I find myself more and more irritated with him. I used to find him hilarious when he'd shit on other team's and their players, but the 700 tweets a day shitting on Cubs players and how much he hates the team has really rubbed me wrong. I'm bummed enough about the direction this team has gone in, I don't need him to endlessly rub salt in the wound. I'm not real sure why he's still a fan, nothing they do seems to make him happy.</blockquote>Couldn't have said it better myself. I had to delete the Pointless Exercise pod back in the offseason. Excruciating listen.</blockquote>His schtick can get old, for sure, but I didnt disagree with a single word of that article. Did you?</blockquote>It's all his opinion so I'm not sure what I'm even agreeing or disagreeing with. I don't agree that the Rickettses ordered Jed to sell off. I mean they also included money in many of these trades, so it wasn't primarily financially driven. Other than never wanting to trade with the Sox ever, I'm also not sure that Madrigal is being evaluated properly. He's always been known as a decent defensive 2B, and I acknowledge that he has little power, but he's hit everywhere. The game is changing again, so it's hard for me to determine his long-term value without putting it into context with how Jed plans to construct the rest of the roster. I agree though that a middle infield of Hoerner and Madrigal scares me defensively, but we'll see. And despite the Kimbrel Renaissance, he isn't anywhere close to a sure thing. His wildness has returned since the ASG, and scouts I'm sure have picked up on this. It wasn't that long ago that we were talking about him being a sunk cost. I don't think we were fleeced on this or any of the other trades. Maybe I'm delusional or heartless, but I was 100% ready to move on from this core. I've been ready for probably 3 years since the offense broke. I will love Rizzo, Javy and KB forever, but it's a cruel business and I highly doubt Jed bumbled into any of these deals or was being pushed by ownership to deal anyone. Still fuck the Rickettses either way.</blockquote>I agree with all this. I will say that the one point that did resonate with me from the article is the idea that we had been conditioned to evaluate the core and their success, or lack there of, as rather static, as in they either needed to get it done or they should be broken up and the team should start fresh. The Dodgers had a strong core that would fall short and then they would do things like add Mookie Betts. I don't remember there ever being an attitude of "let's add to this foundation in a impact way". Once it was determined the offense "broke", adding a superstar wasn't an option to fix it, it had to be fixed itself or this. Maybe only the Dodgers and Yanks can think that way, but it would be nice if the Cubs could. Thus it does circle back to your last point.
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