06-29-2009, 11:21 AM
<!--quoteo(post=46963:date=Jun 29 2009, 10:15 AM:name=Bricklayer)-->QUOTE (Bricklayer @ Jun 29 2009, 10:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=46953:date=Jun 29 2009, 09:57 AM:name=hPOD)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (hPOD @ Jun 29 2009, 09:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=46951:date=Jun 29 2009, 09:54 AM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Jun 29 2009, 09:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=46949:date=Jun 29 2009, 09:50 AM:name=hPOD)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (hPOD @ Jun 29 2009, 09:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=46944:date=Jun 29 2009, 09:42 AM:name=BT)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BT @ Jun 29 2009, 09:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->But hPOD, don't you see the difference between the examples we are providing, and yours? In our example, the manager of a team, the guy who is supposed to represent the team in a professional fashion, ripping the fans of another team. In your example, guys are making fun of fans of the team that they are playing THAT DAY. The ribbing you encountered happens in every park, every day. The manager mocking fans from another team pretty much doesn't EVER happen.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Oh I see the difference, I was only making an observation that slowly but surely this exact type of thing is creeping into the Cubs fan base. My thought is that eventually, if this section of the fan base gets big enough, that the organization will start playing to them. If the Cubs owners realize they can use it to create buzz or what have you during bad times or during times in which they can use the extra press, whether it be positive or negative, they will.
I remember back in the day before the Sox organization jumped onto this bandwagon of headline making garbage that the fans were the culprits of this Cubs hatred -- now it's the organization, too. It's business, so why wouldn't they latch onto it if it makes a stronger connection with their fans? It's just a matter of time for the Cubs, if that contingent of the Cubs fan base continues to grow, that the organization will jump on board, too.
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Unless something changes and the Cubs start having trouble filling up Wrigley on a regular basis, I don't see them ever having to resort to that.
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Give it enough time. I'm not speaking in terms of 2 or 3 years. But in 5 or 10. As the younger fan base grows older and starts going to the games in place of the Butchers and roks, you may start seeing this get worse and worse, as they will be the ones representing the team at that time.
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See, you really don't fucking get it. We have an identity that is our own. We don't need an antithesis to know who we are. It's always been that way and will always be that way. We embrace our past both good and bad. Our fathers and grandfathers all have passed down our true passion for baseball and the Cubs and it has nothing to do with the fucking white sox. You take away the Cubs and what do you have, a sad sack fan base that doesn't give two shits about supporting their team. You take away the sox and everything stays exactly the same for Cubs fans.
I love your warped logic too. You poke and prod someone until they react and then they're just as guilty of asshole behavior. Fucking genius.
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Fair enough. I don't agree with your assessment of me, but fair enough. I don't feel as if I'm poking or prodding anyone when it comes to this, I simply feel that it works both ways. I don't care that there is more traffic on one side of douchebag ave. than the other, either.
And for the record, if you took away the Cubs, you'd take away the Cubs. I'd still love the Sox as much as I do now, it wouldn't make a bit of difference to me. Believe it or not, there ARE Sox fans with the same passion you have -- but at least I don't act as if you don't have passion or family tradition as you just did to me.
But that's your right, I am a guest on another teams board.
Oh I see the difference, I was only making an observation that slowly but surely this exact type of thing is creeping into the Cubs fan base. My thought is that eventually, if this section of the fan base gets big enough, that the organization will start playing to them. If the Cubs owners realize they can use it to create buzz or what have you during bad times or during times in which they can use the extra press, whether it be positive or negative, they will.
I remember back in the day before the Sox organization jumped onto this bandwagon of headline making garbage that the fans were the culprits of this Cubs hatred -- now it's the organization, too. It's business, so why wouldn't they latch onto it if it makes a stronger connection with their fans? It's just a matter of time for the Cubs, if that contingent of the Cubs fan base continues to grow, that the organization will jump on board, too.
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Unless something changes and the Cubs start having trouble filling up Wrigley on a regular basis, I don't see them ever having to resort to that.
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Give it enough time. I'm not speaking in terms of 2 or 3 years. But in 5 or 10. As the younger fan base grows older and starts going to the games in place of the Butchers and roks, you may start seeing this get worse and worse, as they will be the ones representing the team at that time.
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See, you really don't fucking get it. We have an identity that is our own. We don't need an antithesis to know who we are. It's always been that way and will always be that way. We embrace our past both good and bad. Our fathers and grandfathers all have passed down our true passion for baseball and the Cubs and it has nothing to do with the fucking white sox. You take away the Cubs and what do you have, a sad sack fan base that doesn't give two shits about supporting their team. You take away the sox and everything stays exactly the same for Cubs fans.
I love your warped logic too. You poke and prod someone until they react and then they're just as guilty of asshole behavior. Fucking genius.
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Fair enough. I don't agree with your assessment of me, but fair enough. I don't feel as if I'm poking or prodding anyone when it comes to this, I simply feel that it works both ways. I don't care that there is more traffic on one side of douchebag ave. than the other, either.
And for the record, if you took away the Cubs, you'd take away the Cubs. I'd still love the Sox as much as I do now, it wouldn't make a bit of difference to me. Believe it or not, there ARE Sox fans with the same passion you have -- but at least I don't act as if you don't have passion or family tradition as you just did to me.
But that's your right, I am a guest on another teams board.