06-29-2009, 11:06 AM
<!--quoteo(post=46953:date=Jun 29 2009, 09:57 AM:name=hPOD)-->QUOTE (hPOD @ Jun 29 2009, 09:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=46951:date=Jun 29 2009, 09:54 AM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Jun 29 2009, 09:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=46949:date=Jun 29 2009, 09:50 AM:name=hPOD)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (hPOD @ Jun 29 2009, 09:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=46944:date=Jun 29 2009, 09:42 AM:name=BT)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BT @ Jun 29 2009, 09:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->But hPOD, don't you see the difference between the examples we are providing, and yours? In our example, the manager of a team, the guy who is supposed to represent the team in a professional fashion, ripping the fans of another team. In your example, guys are making fun of fans of the team that they are playing THAT DAY. The ribbing you encountered happens in every park, every day. The manager mocking fans from another team pretty much doesn't EVER happen.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Oh I see the difference, I was only making an observation that slowly but surely this exact type of thing is creeping into the Cubs fan base. My thought is that eventually, if this section of the fan base gets big enough, that the organization will start playing to them. If the Cubs owners realize they can use it to create buzz or what have you during bad times or during times in which they can use the extra press, whether it be positive or negative, they will.
I remember back in the day before the Sox organization jumped onto this bandwagon of headline making garbage that the fans were the culprits of this Cubs hatred -- now it's the organization, too. It's business, so why wouldn't they latch onto it if it makes a stronger connection with their fans? It's just a matter of time for the Cubs, if that contingent of the Cubs fan base continues to grow, that the organization will jump on board, too.
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Unless something changes and the Cubs start having trouble filling up Wrigley on a regular basis, I don't see them ever having to resort to that.
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Give it enough time. I'm not speaking in terms of 2 or 3 years. But in 5 or 10. As the younger fan base grows older and starts going to the games in place of the Butchers and roks, you may start seeing this get worse and worse, as they will be the ones representing the team at that time.
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If SOI still exists in 10 years, we'll meet back here and compare notes. As for now, I don't see that drastic of a shift in culture in a decade (unless the Cubs go 10 straight years without winning the division). But I suppose anything can happen.
Oh I see the difference, I was only making an observation that slowly but surely this exact type of thing is creeping into the Cubs fan base. My thought is that eventually, if this section of the fan base gets big enough, that the organization will start playing to them. If the Cubs owners realize they can use it to create buzz or what have you during bad times or during times in which they can use the extra press, whether it be positive or negative, they will.
I remember back in the day before the Sox organization jumped onto this bandwagon of headline making garbage that the fans were the culprits of this Cubs hatred -- now it's the organization, too. It's business, so why wouldn't they latch onto it if it makes a stronger connection with their fans? It's just a matter of time for the Cubs, if that contingent of the Cubs fan base continues to grow, that the organization will jump on board, too.
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Unless something changes and the Cubs start having trouble filling up Wrigley on a regular basis, I don't see them ever having to resort to that.
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Give it enough time. I'm not speaking in terms of 2 or 3 years. But in 5 or 10. As the younger fan base grows older and starts going to the games in place of the Butchers and roks, you may start seeing this get worse and worse, as they will be the ones representing the team at that time.
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If SOI still exists in 10 years, we'll meet back here and compare notes. As for now, I don't see that drastic of a shift in culture in a decade (unless the Cubs go 10 straight years without winning the division). But I suppose anything can happen.