06-29-2009, 10:35 AM
<!--quoteo(post=46938:date=Jun 29 2009, 09:23 AM:name=hPOD)-->QUOTE (hPOD @ Jun 29 2009, 09:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=46937:date=Jun 29 2009, 09:19 AM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Jun 29 2009, 09:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I find this entire discussion tiresome. I'm to the point now where arguing is futile. Most Sox fans, even the best of them, will never admit that they hate us more than they like their own team, though it's painfully obvious. And hPOD, don't waste your time defending the small minority of Sox fans who may think or act like you say. It doesn't wash here, and you aren't going to convince anyone otherwise.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
See, rok, I'm not trying to do that.
I'm outright saying I KNOW that Sox fans are like this -- I find it annoying, and I don't get it. I cited the example earlier of losing to the Twins, but then chanting 'Cubs Suck'...I just don't understand it, I never will. But, what I've noticed is that there is a growing sector of Cubs fans that are beginning to act like this, too, and this sector is growing by the year.
That's all I'm saying. Let's not continue to act like this is still a one sided affair, it was...but it's not anymore.
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When your owner, GM, manager, etc., etc., etc., all attack the team and fanbase you love, do you expect Cubs fans not to respond? I'm not excusing douchey behavior -- I'd love it if all Cubs fans (including myself) would just rise above the fray. But it's hard when the team on the other side of town constantly has you in their crosshairs.
Yes, Cubs fans have become increasingly more douchey. It started in 2003. It got worse in 2005. It has reached fever pitch this season. But don't pretend that it isn't lopsided, hPod. It is absolutely lopsided.
The day Ricketts, Hendry, Piniella, Zambrano (name some other random players), Len Kasper, and the Cubs marketing machine all start trashing the Sox, come talk to me. Until that day, you don't have a leg to stand on in this discussion.
See, rok, I'm not trying to do that.
I'm outright saying I KNOW that Sox fans are like this -- I find it annoying, and I don't get it. I cited the example earlier of losing to the Twins, but then chanting 'Cubs Suck'...I just don't understand it, I never will. But, what I've noticed is that there is a growing sector of Cubs fans that are beginning to act like this, too, and this sector is growing by the year.
That's all I'm saying. Let's not continue to act like this is still a one sided affair, it was...but it's not anymore.
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When your owner, GM, manager, etc., etc., etc., all attack the team and fanbase you love, do you expect Cubs fans not to respond? I'm not excusing douchey behavior -- I'd love it if all Cubs fans (including myself) would just rise above the fray. But it's hard when the team on the other side of town constantly has you in their crosshairs.
Yes, Cubs fans have become increasingly more douchey. It started in 2003. It got worse in 2005. It has reached fever pitch this season. But don't pretend that it isn't lopsided, hPod. It is absolutely lopsided.
The day Ricketts, Hendry, Piniella, Zambrano (name some other random players), Len Kasper, and the Cubs marketing machine all start trashing the Sox, come talk to me. Until that day, you don't have a leg to stand on in this discussion.