Fontenot

[Butcher]

<!--quoteo(post=32618:date=Apr 23 2009, 03:32 PM:name=Clapp)-->QUOTE (Clapp @ Apr 23 2009, 03:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->It's also worth pointing out Fontenot came in with a .439 obp against right-handers, which is all he should be facing. Miles should be playing every game against left-handers.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Miles should be playing for the Tennessee Smokies. Maybe.

[rok]

<!--quoteo(post=32618:date=Apr 23 2009, 03:32 PM:name=Clapp)-->QUOTE (Clapp @ Apr 23 2009, 03:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->It's also worth pointing out Fontenot came in with a .439 obp against right-handers, which is all he should be facing. Miles should be playing every game against left-handers.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Another series of questionable decisions by Lou.

[Clapp]

<!--quoteo(post=32622:date=Apr 23 2009, 02:36 PM:name=KBwsb)-->QUOTE (KBwsb @ Apr 23 2009, 02:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->How are Miles's platoon splits? Does he really hammer lefties?

In general, I agree with Clapp's basic premise here: 14 games <i>screams</i> small sample size. They play 148 more.
Font is fielding well, and getting on base; those are his 2 most important jobs.
I like the little bastard.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Miles has a career .353 obp against lefties, compared to .319 against righties.

Fontenot vs. righties:
.295/.383/.468

vs lefties:
.222/.286/.333

[ruby23]

<!--quoteo(post=32625:date=Apr 23 2009, 03:37 PM:name=rok)-->QUOTE (rok @ Apr 23 2009, 03:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32618:date=Apr 23 2009, 03:32 PM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Apr 23 2009, 03:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->It's also worth pointing out Fontenot came in with a .439 obp against right-handers, which is all he should be facing. Miles should be playing every game against left-handers.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Another series of questionable decisions by Lou.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Lou has been the biggest problem with this team so far, no one can convince me otherwise.

[rok]

<!--quoteo(post=32638:date=Apr 23 2009, 03:47 PM:name=ruby23)-->QUOTE (ruby23 @ Apr 23 2009, 03:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32625:date=Apr 23 2009, 03:37 PM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Apr 23 2009, 03:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32618:date=Apr 23 2009, 03:32 PM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Apr 23 2009, 03:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->It's also worth pointing out Fontenot came in with a .439 obp against right-handers, which is all he should be facing. Miles should be playing every game against left-handers.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Another series of questionable decisions by Lou.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Lou has been the biggest problem with this team so far, no one can convince me otherwise.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yep, I think he should have stayed in retirement. I like the guy's attitude, but not his decision-making.

[ruby23]

<!--quoteo(post=32645:date=Apr 23 2009, 03:51 PM:name=rok)-->QUOTE (rok @ Apr 23 2009, 03:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32638:date=Apr 23 2009, 03:47 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Apr 23 2009, 03:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32625:date=Apr 23 2009, 03:37 PM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Apr 23 2009, 03:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32618:date=Apr 23 2009, 03:32 PM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Apr 23 2009, 03:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->It's also worth pointing out Fontenot came in with a .439 obp against right-handers, which is all he should be facing. Miles should be playing every game against left-handers.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Another series of questionable decisions by Lou.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Lou has been the biggest problem with this team so far, no one can convince me otherwise.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yep, I think he should have stayed in retirement. I like the guy's attitude, but not his decision-making.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
From the construction of the team, to player management, to in-game strategy, he's been shitty since the 2008 off season began.

[BT]

<!--quoteo(post=32647:date=Apr 23 2009, 03:53 PM:name=ruby23)-->QUOTE (ruby23 @ Apr 23 2009, 03:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32645:date=Apr 23 2009, 03:51 PM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Apr 23 2009, 03:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32638:date=Apr 23 2009, 03:47 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Apr 23 2009, 03:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32625:date=Apr 23 2009, 03:37 PM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Apr 23 2009, 03:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32618:date=Apr 23 2009, 03:32 PM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Apr 23 2009, 03:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->It's also worth pointing out Fontenot came in with a .439 obp against right-handers, which is all he should be facing. Miles should be playing every game against left-handers.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Another series of questionable decisions by Lou.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Lou has been the biggest problem with this team so far, no one can convince me otherwise.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yep, I think he should have stayed in retirement. I like the guy's attitude, but not his decision-making.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
From the construction of the team, to player management, to in-game strategy, he's been shitty since the 2008 off season began.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

He is definitely the worst manager we've had that lead us to back to back division titles, at least in my lifetime.

[rok]

<!--quoteo(post=32653:date=Apr 23 2009, 03:56 PM:name=BT)-->QUOTE (BT @ Apr 23 2009, 03:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32647:date=Apr 23 2009, 03:53 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Apr 23 2009, 03:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32645:date=Apr 23 2009, 03:51 PM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Apr 23 2009, 03:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32638:date=Apr 23 2009, 03:47 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Apr 23 2009, 03:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32625:date=Apr 23 2009, 03:37 PM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Apr 23 2009, 03:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32618:date=Apr 23 2009, 03:32 PM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Apr 23 2009, 03:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->It's also worth pointing out Fontenot came in with a .439 obp against right-handers, which is all he should be facing. Miles should be playing every game against left-handers.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Another series of questionable decisions by Lou.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Lou has been the biggest problem with this team so far, no one can convince me otherwise.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yep, I think he should have stayed in retirement. I like the guy's attitude, but not his decision-making.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
From the construction of the team, to player management, to in-game strategy, he's been shitty since the 2008 off season began.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

He is definitely the worst manager we've had that lead us to back to back division titles, at least in my lifetime.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Until he wins a single playoff game, it really doesn't matter.

[BT]

<!--quoteo(post=32657:date=Apr 23 2009, 03:59 PM:name=rok)-->QUOTE (rok @ Apr 23 2009, 03:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32653:date=Apr 23 2009, 03:56 PM:name=BT)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BT @ Apr 23 2009, 03:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32647:date=Apr 23 2009, 03:53 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Apr 23 2009, 03:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32645:date=Apr 23 2009, 03:51 PM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Apr 23 2009, 03:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32638:date=Apr 23 2009, 03:47 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Apr 23 2009, 03:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32625:date=Apr 23 2009, 03:37 PM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Apr 23 2009, 03:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32618:date=Apr 23 2009, 03:32 PM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Apr 23 2009, 03:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->It's also worth pointing out Fontenot came in with a .439 obp against right-handers, which is all he should be facing. Miles should be playing every game against left-handers.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Another series of questionable decisions by Lou.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Lou has been the biggest problem with this team so far, no one can convince me otherwise.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yep, I think he should have stayed in retirement. I like the guy's attitude, but not his decision-making.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
From the construction of the team, to player management, to in-game strategy, he's been shitty since the 2008 off season began.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

He is definitely the worst manager we've had that lead us to back to back division titles, at least in my lifetime.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Until he wins a single playoff game, it really doesn't matter.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
So Dusty Baker is CLEARLY a better manager, since he not only won a game, but a whole series?

[rok]

<!--quoteo(post=32658:date=Apr 23 2009, 04:00 PM:name=BT)-->QUOTE (BT @ Apr 23 2009, 04:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32657:date=Apr 23 2009, 03:59 PM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Apr 23 2009, 03:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32653:date=Apr 23 2009, 03:56 PM:name=BT)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BT @ Apr 23 2009, 03:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32647:date=Apr 23 2009, 03:53 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Apr 23 2009, 03:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32645:date=Apr 23 2009, 03:51 PM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Apr 23 2009, 03:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32638:date=Apr 23 2009, 03:47 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Apr 23 2009, 03:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32625:date=Apr 23 2009, 03:37 PM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Apr 23 2009, 03:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32618:date=Apr 23 2009, 03:32 PM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Apr 23 2009, 03:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->It's also worth pointing out Fontenot came in with a .439 obp against right-handers, which is all he should be facing. Miles should be playing every game against left-handers.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Another series of questionable decisions by Lou.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Lou has been the biggest problem with this team so far, no one can convince me otherwise.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yep, I think he should have stayed in retirement. I like the guy's attitude, but not his decision-making.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
From the construction of the team, to player management, to in-game strategy, he's been shitty since the 2008 off season began.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

He is definitely the worst manager we've had that lead us to back to back division titles, at least in my lifetime.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Until he wins a single playoff game, it really doesn't matter.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
So Dusty Baker is CLEARLY a better manager, since he not only won a game, but a whole series?
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The only area where Lou has been superior has been in managing the clubhouse and being fair with the media and fans. Lou's tenure isn't over yet, so it remains to be seen how they compare. Besides, you don't judge a manager only by what happens during the regular season.

[Andy]

Just out of curiosity, can I be concerned about the bullpen or is it too early in the season?

[Giff]

Lou hasn't been fantastic this year by any means, but I think a lot of that has to do with learning this new squad. He had some problems for the first couple months in '07 when he was getting to know his roster. I think by the time June rolls around and he knows what to expect from the bullpen, Miles, etc. he'll fall into a much better and things will be just fine.

And Lou isn't why the Cubs are 0-6 in the last 2 playoffs.

[Clapp]

<!--quoteo(post=32663:date=Apr 23 2009, 03:03 PM:name=Andy)-->QUOTE (Andy @ Apr 23 2009, 03:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Just out of curiosity, can I be concerned about the bullpen or is it too early in the season?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
There's reason to be concerned about Cotts and the middle relievers, yeah. Probably wouldn't be the case had the team kept the right players.

[rok]

<!--quoteo(post=32665:date=Apr 23 2009, 04:04 PM:name=Giff)-->QUOTE (Giff @ Apr 23 2009, 04:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Lou hasn't been fantastic this year by any means, but I think a lot of that has to do with learning this new squad. He had some problems for the first couple months in '07 when he was getting to know his roster. I think by the time June rolls around and he knows what to expect from the bullpen, Miles, etc. he'll fall into a much better and things will be just fine.

And Lou isn't why the Cubs are 0-6 in the last 2 playoffs.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well, he helped construct the team that shit itself and made some questionable decisions, so I'm not placing all the blame on him, but he definitely deserves some.

I don't think you can praise him for being such a great manager, but then absolve him from blame when he makes poor decisions and then the team doesn't respond well. Why even have a manager if it's only on the players?

[BT]

<!--quoteo(post=32662:date=Apr 23 2009, 04:02 PM:name=rok)-->QUOTE (rok @ Apr 23 2009, 04:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32658:date=Apr 23 2009, 04:00 PM:name=BT)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BT @ Apr 23 2009, 04:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32657:date=Apr 23 2009, 03:59 PM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Apr 23 2009, 03:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32653:date=Apr 23 2009, 03:56 PM:name=BT)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BT @ Apr 23 2009, 03:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32647:date=Apr 23 2009, 03:53 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Apr 23 2009, 03:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32645:date=Apr 23 2009, 03:51 PM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Apr 23 2009, 03:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32638:date=Apr 23 2009, 03:47 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Apr 23 2009, 03:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32625:date=Apr 23 2009, 03:37 PM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Apr 23 2009, 03:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32618:date=Apr 23 2009, 03:32 PM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Apr 23 2009, 03:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->It's also worth pointing out Fontenot came in with a .439 obp against right-handers, which is all he should be facing. Miles should be playing every game against left-handers.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Another series of questionable decisions by Lou.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Lou has been the biggest problem with this team so far, no one can convince me otherwise.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yep, I think he should have stayed in retirement. I like the guy's attitude, but not his decision-making.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
From the construction of the team, to player management, to in-game strategy, he's been shitty since the 2008 off season began.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

He is definitely the worst manager we've had that lead us to back to back division titles, at least in my lifetime.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Until he wins a single playoff game, it really doesn't matter.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
So Dusty Baker is CLEARLY a better manager, since he not only won a game, but a whole series?
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The only area where Lou has been superior has been in managing the clubhouse and being fair with the media and fans. Lou's tenure isn't over yet, so it remains to be seen how they compare. Besides, you don't judge a manager only by what happens during the regular season.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

You don't judge a manager ONLY by the regular season, but I will put FAR more credence into his actions over 162 games than I will in his actions over 3.