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That really doesn't make the Phillies any better. Halladay is better than Lee, but not by more than a game or 2 difference over the course of a year. Plus they have to get rid of prospects and sign Halladay until he hits the nursing home. I think the Phillies made a mistake.
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Rosenthal saying the Red Sox will look to deal Clay Buttholes to the Padres for Adrian Gonzalez after the Lackey signing. They've also made an offer to Aroldis Chapman. That organization knows what they're doing... and of course have the money to do such things.
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Fucking hell. I hate being a Cubs fan.
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3 years, $60 million+ for Halladay extension
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<!--quoteo(post=71636:date=Dec 14 2009, 05:08 PM:name=Clapp)-->QUOTE (Clapp @ Dec 14 2009, 05:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->3 years, $60 million+ for Halladay extension<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Smart. More money, fewer years.
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<b>Smart.</b> More money, fewer years.
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Very.
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<!--quoteo(post=71637:date=Dec 14 2009, 04:22 PM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Dec 14 2009, 04:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=71636:date=Dec 14 2009, 05:08 PM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Dec 14 2009, 05:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->3 years, $60 million+ for Halladay extension<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Smart. More money, fewer years.
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Yeah I think that was really the only way to do it considering his age.
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Lackey going to the Red Sox.
Link.
But hey! We're going to unload Bradley for pennies on the dollar...and Capps really wants to be a Cub! WOO-HOO!
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<!--quoteo(post=71640:date=Dec 14 2009, 05:33 PM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Dec 14 2009, 05:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Lackey going to the Red Sox.
Link.
But hey! We're going to unload Bradley for pennies on the dollar...and Capps really wants to be a Cub! WOO-HOO!<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Cameron is supposedly in talks with the Sox for a 2-year deal.
Looks like Hendry might end up flipping us the Byrd.
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Link.
But hey! We're going to unload Bradley for pennies on the dollar...and Capps really wants to be a Cub! WOO-HOO!<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Cameron is supposedly in talks with the Sox for a 2-year deal.
Looks like Hendry might end up flipping us the Byrd.
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Wow. Could this offseason be as bad as the Burnitz/Jacque offseasons? It sure seems to be shaping up that way...
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I'd like to have Capps... if it's a reasonable price. The 07-08 Capps with Grabow, Guzman, and Marmol would make for a pretty solid 7-9 inning group. Plus he has a good name.
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The last thing I want to see is another FA bullpen acquisition.
OK, maybe not the last thing...but do we really need to spend more money on middle relievers?
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<!--quoteo(post=71645:date=Dec 14 2009, 04:59 PM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Dec 14 2009, 04:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=71643:date=Dec 14 2009, 05:58 PM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Dec 14 2009, 05:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I'd like to have Capps... if it's a reasonable price. The 07-08 Capps with Grabow, Guzman, and Marmol would make for a pretty solid 7-9 inning group. Plus he has a good name.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The last thing I want to see is another FA bullpen acquisition.
OK, maybe not the last thing...but do we really need to spend more money on middle relievers?
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Well he could turn into the best reliever we have outside of Marmol. I just think he's a good buy-low guy and honestly the only name I've seen mentioned with our team this offseason that I have any interest in. It's better than throwing a ton of money at Joel Pineiro who multiple sources today have said we're very interested in. Dude's been rumored to want 3/30.
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<!--quoteo(post=71647:date=Dec 14 2009, 06:09 PM:name=Clapp)-->QUOTE (Clapp @ Dec 14 2009, 06:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=71645:date=Dec 14 2009, 04:59 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Dec 14 2009, 04:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=71643:date=Dec 14 2009, 05:58 PM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Dec 14 2009, 05:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I'd like to have Capps... if it's a reasonable price. The 07-08 Capps with Grabow, Guzman, and Marmol would make for a pretty solid 7-9 inning group. Plus he has a good name.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The last thing I want to see is another FA bullpen acquisition.
OK, maybe not the last thing...but do we really need to spend more money on middle relievers?
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Well he could turn into the best reliever we have outside of Marmol.
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He could also have another 2009 and be a total bust. I don't see why we don't give the 50 bajillion arms we have in our farm system a shot to land the last spot in the bullpen instead of throwing money away on guys like Grabow or Capps. Yes -- all of our minor league pitchers could bust, too. But we don't have to pay them anything and there are enough arms in our system with potential that the odds are that one of them would stick and pitch at least as well as Capps.
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<!--quoteo(post=71647:date=Dec 14 2009, 06:09 PM:name=Clapp)-->QUOTE (Clapp @ Dec 14 2009, 06:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=71645:date=Dec 14 2009, 04:59 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Dec 14 2009, 04:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=71643:date=Dec 14 2009, 05:58 PM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Dec 14 2009, 05:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I'd like to have Capps... if it's a reasonable price. The 07-08 Capps with Grabow, Guzman, and Marmol would make for a pretty solid 7-9 inning group. Plus he has a good name.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The last thing I want to see is another FA bullpen acquisition.
OK, maybe not the last thing...but do we really need to spend more money on middle relievers?
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Well he could turn into the best reliever we have outside of Marmol. I just think he's a good buy-low guy and honestly the only name I've seen mentioned with our team this offseason that I have any interest in. It's better than throwing a ton of money at Joel Pineiro who multiple sources today have said we're very interested in. Dude's been rumored to want 3/30.
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With multiple teams looking at Capp what's the chance he turns out to be cheap?
Granted our starting piching will not be as strong as last year so it maybe cheaper to have a strong bullpen but either way Capp won't come cheap as you think
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