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<!--quoteo(post=1075:date=Dec 3 2008, 03:24 PM:name=cigar)-->QUOTE (cigar @ Dec 3 2008, 03:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Howry signed a one year deal with the Giants for 2.75 mil<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Psst....check two posts above yours...
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<!--quoteo(post=1060:date=Dec 3 2008, 02:51 PM:name=Coldneck)-->QUOTE (Coldneck @ Dec 3 2008, 02:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <!--quotec-->SAN FRANCISCO -- The San Francisco Giants took another step toward bolstering their bullpen Wednesday, agreeing to terms on a $2.75 million, one-year contract with free agent reliever Bob Howry. Bob Howry.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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"Bolstering" their bullpen?
Awesome.
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I like that deal for the Giants, that's super cheap. He rarely hit over 89 mph last year but maybe he wasn't 100% or something. More likely it's just because he's old, but we'll see how his velocity looks in a few months.
2.74, 2.47, 3.17, 3.32, 5.35. Quite a jump in ERA.
Anyway, if Howry can do well for them, and they also added Affeldt, that's one hell of a pitching staff. Wilson at the end, Lincecum, Cain, Lowry... pretty good. Sanchez has electric stuff as well but fell apart in the 2nd half last year(8-5, 3.97 in the 1st half... 1-7, 7.47 in the 2nd half). Unfortunately they also have arguably the biggest free agent bust ever for starting pitchers in Zito.
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Wow, 1 year 2.75? Guess it's good we didn't offer him arbitration.
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This seems like a lot for David Ross
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->Looking to improve the production they received from their backup catchers last year, the Braves are close to signing Dave Ross to a two-year deal worth approximately $3.5 million. Ross confirmed the signing could come as early as Thursday.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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Khalil Greene close to being traded, more on Howry, and Pedroia signs an extension:
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<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->Giants signed RHP Bob Howry, who had been with the Cubs, to a one-year, $2.75 million contract.
Howry can earn up to $4.25 million, but that would involve him taking over the closer's role from Brian Wilson pretty early in the season. If he makes 75 appearances, which he's done three of the last four years, he'll earn $3.25 million. It's another nice relief signing for the Giants. Howry had a 5.32 ERA last season, but he was right around 3.00 each of the previous four years and he's been extremely durable since returning from elbow surgery in 2004. He should be a fine setup man. Dec. 3 - 4:07 pm et<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->Red Sox signed second baseman Dustin Pedroia to a six-year, $40.5 million contract with a club option for 2105.
Pedroia will receive a $1.5 million signing bonus, $1.5 million in 2009, $3.5 million in 2010, $5.5 million in 2011, $8 million in 2012, $10 million in 2013 and $10 million in 2014. The 2015 option, which would be voided if Pedroia is traded, is worth $11 million and includes a $500,000 buyout. It could rise to $13 million if Pedroia wins another MVP or finishes in the top three twice. This looks like a flat-out steal for the Red Sox. With good health, the 25-year-old Pedroia stood to make at least $30 million in his three arbitration years and then probably $20 million minimum in his first two years of free agency. He may have nowhere to go but down after winning ROY and MVP awards in consecutive seasons, but it should be a fun ride. Dec. 3 - 3:05 pm et<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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To update that Greene rumor, he's a Cardinal(it sounds like).
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The expectation is that Greene will be moved even before the Winter Meetings start in Las Vegas on Monday. The Cardinals are said to be giving up two relief prospects to obtain Greene, sources tell The Post.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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<!--quoteo(post=1161:date=Dec 3 2008, 11:40 PM:name=Clapp)-->QUOTE (Clapp @ Dec 3 2008, 11:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->To update that Greene rumor, he's a Cardinal(it sounds like).
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The expectation is that Greene will be moved even before the Winter Meetings start in Las Vegas on Monday. The Cardinals are said to be giving up two relief prospects to obtain Greene, sources tell The Post.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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Awesome. Greene is absolutely horrible. I welcome him to the Cardinals.
Granted, if the Padres are getting bullpen guys from the Cards, they aren't getting much in return. The Cardinals bullpen was horrible last year. If they had any prospects worth a damn, they would have been on the MLB roster.
I got nothin'.
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<!--quoteo(post=1179:date=Dec 4 2008, 08:06 AM:name=Andy)-->QUOTE (Andy @ Dec 4 2008, 08:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=1161:date=Dec 3 2008, 11:40 PM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Dec 3 2008, 11:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->To update that Greene rumor, he's a Cardinal(it sounds like).
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The expectation is that Greene will be moved even before the Winter Meetings start in Las Vegas on Monday. The Cardinals are said to be giving up two relief prospects to obtain Greene, sources tell The Post.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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Awesome. Greene is absolutely horrible. I welcome him to the Cardinals.
Granted, if the Padres are getting bullpen guys from the Cards, they aren't getting much in return. The Cardinals bullpen was horrible last year. If they had any prospects worth a damn, they would have been on the MLB roster.
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I'm sure you're right. My guess is the Pads would almost literally take nothing in return if the other team took all of Greene's salary.
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The expectation is that Greene will be moved even before the Winter Meetings start in Las Vegas on Monday. The Cardinals are said to be giving up two relief prospects to obtain Greene, sources tell The Post.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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Awesome. Greene is absolutely horrible. I welcome him to the Cardinals.
Granted, if the Padres are getting bullpen guys from the Cards, they aren't getting much in return. The Cardinals bullpen was horrible last year. If they had any prospects worth a damn, they would have been on the MLB roster.
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I'm sure you're right. My guess is the Pads would almost literally take nothing in return <b>if the other team took all of Greene's salary.</b><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Bingo! The Pads would take a bag of balls and Chad Fox if we offered it.
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<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->The San Francisco Chronicle reports that Edgar Renteria and the Giants have agreed to terms on a two-year contract that could be finalized as soon as Thursday.
According to the newspaper, Renteria underwent a physical Wednesday. No word yet on the contract details, but last month Renteria was said to be on the verge of signing a two-year, $18 million deal with San Francisco.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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There's no indication that the Giants will approach the Yankees' reported $140 million proposal, but Sabathia is from California and the New York Post reportedly previously that his wife would like him to pitch in San Francisco.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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According to the newspaper, Renteria underwent a physical Wednesday. No word yet on the contract details, but last month Renteria was said to be on the verge of signing a two-year, $18 million deal with San Francisco.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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How beautiful would it be if the Giants got Sabathia and his arm fell apart? They would then be the owners of two of the biggest busts in FA SP history.
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According to the newspaper, Renteria underwent a physical Wednesday. No word yet on the contract details, but last month Renteria was said to be on the verge of signing a two-year, $18 million deal with San Francisco.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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How beautiful would it be if the Giants got Sabathia and his arm fell apart? They would then be the owners of two of the biggest busts in FA SP history.
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A quarter of a billion dollars wasted on 2 arms. Awesome.
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<!--quoteo(post=1229:date=Dec 4 2008, 09:13 AM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Dec 4 2008, 09:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=1225:date=Dec 4 2008, 09:40 AM:name=ColoradoCub)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ColoradoCub @ Dec 4 2008, 09:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <!--quotec-->The San Francisco Chronicle reports that Edgar Renteria and the Giants have agreed to terms on a two-year contract that could be finalized as soon as Thursday.
According to the newspaper, Renteria underwent a physical Wednesday. No word yet on the contract details, but last month Renteria was said to be on the verge of signing a two-year, $18 million deal with San Francisco.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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How beautiful would it be if the Giants got Sabathia and his arm fell apart? They would then be the owners of two of the biggest busts in FA SP history.
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I would certainly hope that something like that finally costs Sabean his job.
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