MLB News & Notes (other than Cubs or Sox)

[Destined]

<!--quoteo(post=8077:date=Jan 1 2009, 06:11 AM:name=Clapp)-->QUOTE (Clapp @ Jan 1 2009, 06:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Plugging my blog because I'm an ass, and because you might actually be interested in this.
MLB Network Launches Today

It really looks like it's going to be terrific.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yay! About time! Can't wait to watch....

....oh wait. Yeah...DISH Network has their head up their ass and isn't carrying it.
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[Clapp]

Dammit, I just had this long post and lost it. The Giants reportedly offered Manny a 4 year deal. I'm as good of a Manny backer as anybody and I still wouldn't do that. Anyway, to summarize all I wrote, if they add Manny I'd pick them to win the NL West.

[Clapp]

Heyman:
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->The Los Angeles Dodgers and Andruw Jones have agreed to rework his contract to save the team $12 million off its 2009 payroll, SI.com has learned. The deal likely will lead to Jones playing elsewhere next year.

The Los Angeles Times reported Friday that the sides were working on such an arrangement.

With Jones agreeing to defer more than half his $20 million salary to aid the team, it stands to reason that the team will agree to part ways with him at some point. Jones expressed a desire to the Dodgers that he'd like to play elsewhere in 2009.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

[Kid]

<!--quoteo(post=8396:date=Jan 2 2009, 05:43 PM:name=Clapp)-->QUOTE (Clapp @ Jan 2 2009, 05:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Heyman:
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <!--quotec-->The Los Angeles Dodgers and Andruw Jones have agreed to rework his contract to save the team $12 million off its 2009 payroll, SI.com has learned. The deal likely will lead to Jones playing elsewhere next year.

The Los Angeles Times reported Friday that the sides were working on such an arrangement.

With Jones agreeing to defer more than half his $20 million salary to aid the team, it stands to reason that the team will agree to part ways with him at some point. Jones expressed a desire to the Dodgers that he'd like to play elsewhere in 2009.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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Will the union let him do that?

[Ace]

<!--quoteo(post=8397:date=Jan 2 2009, 05:44 PM:name=Kid)-->QUOTE (Kid @ Jan 2 2009, 05:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=8396:date=Jan 2 2009, 05:43 PM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Jan 2 2009, 05:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Heyman:
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <!--quotec-->The Los Angeles Dodgers and Andruw Jones have agreed to rework his contract to save the team $12 million off its 2009 payroll, SI.com has learned. The deal likely will lead to Jones playing elsewhere next year.

The Los Angeles Times reported Friday that the sides were working on such an arrangement.

With Jones agreeing to defer more than half his $20 million salary to aid the team, it stands to reason that the team will agree to part ways with him at some point. Jones expressed a desire to the Dodgers that he'd like to play elsewhere in 2009.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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Will the union let him do that?
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Very dangerous precedent to set.

[Runnys]

<!--quoteo(post=8397:date=Jan 2 2009, 04:44 PM:name=Kid)-->QUOTE (Kid @ Jan 2 2009, 04:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=8396:date=Jan 2 2009, 05:43 PM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Jan 2 2009, 05:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Heyman:
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <!--quotec-->The Los Angeles Dodgers and Andruw Jones have agreed to rework his contract to save the team $12 million off its 2009 payroll, SI.com has learned. The deal likely will lead to Jones playing elsewhere next year.

The Los Angeles Times reported Friday that the sides were working on such an arrangement.

With Jones agreeing to defer more than half his $20 million salary to aid the team, it stands to reason that the team will agree to part ways with him at some point. Jones expressed a desire to the Dodgers that he'd like to play elsewhere in 2009.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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Will the union let him do that?
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Why wouldn't they? If I understand correctly, he is still going to get all his money that he is owed AND have the opportunity to sign with another team and make more money. It seems to me he actually makes more money in this agreement, I wouldn't think the union would have any problem with that.

However, as Ace said, this looks like a very bad precedent to set...if this becomes an option, what keeps players from holding out because they want to go to another team?

[Clapp]

<!--quoteo(post=8451:date=Jan 2 2009, 08:53 PM:name=Runnys)-->QUOTE (Runnys @ Jan 2 2009, 08:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=8397:date=Jan 2 2009, 04:44 PM:name=Kid)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid @ Jan 2 2009, 04:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=8396:date=Jan 2 2009, 05:43 PM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Jan 2 2009, 05:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Heyman:
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <!--quotec-->The Los Angeles Dodgers and Andruw Jones have agreed to rework his contract to save the team $12 million off its 2009 payroll, SI.com has learned. The deal likely will lead to Jones playing elsewhere next year.

The Los Angeles Times reported Friday that the sides were working on such an arrangement.

With Jones agreeing to defer more than half his $20 million salary to aid the team, it stands to reason that the team will agree to part ways with him at some point. Jones expressed a desire to the Dodgers that he'd like to play elsewhere in 2009.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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Will the union let him do that?
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Why wouldn't they? If I understand correctly, he is still going to get all his money that he is owed AND have the opportunity to sign with another team and make more money. It seems to me he actually makes more money in this agreement, I wouldn't think the union would have any problem with that.

However, as Ace said, this looks like a very bad precedent to set...if this becomes an option, what keeps players from holding out because they want to go to another team?
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Yep.

<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->The Major League Baseball Players Association approved the unusual agreement because Jones will receive his entire salary, as well as the possible benefit of free agency should he be released.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

[savant]

How is it possible for him to fallen off of the face of the earth as fast as he did? Any interest for a minor league invite to spring training?

[Runnys]

<!--quoteo(post=8458:date=Jan 2 2009, 09:03 PM:name=savant)-->QUOTE (savant @ Jan 2 2009, 09:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->How is it possible for him to fallen off of the face of the earth as fast as he did? Any interest for a minor league invite to spring training?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Somebody will be stupid enough to give him a contract to be a starting OFer for them.

[Clapp]

<!--quoteo(post=8458:date=Jan 2 2009, 09:03 PM:name=savant)-->QUOTE (savant @ Jan 2 2009, 09:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->How is it possible for him to fallen off of the face of the earth as fast as he did?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

[savant]

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The only place he ever had more triples than doubles.

[Clapp]

Saw on MLB Trade Rumors that LaRussa is thinking of putting Chris Carpenter in the closer's role.

[Destined]

<!--quoteo(post=8657:date=Jan 4 2009, 11:53 AM:name=Clapp)-->QUOTE (Clapp @ Jan 4 2009, 11:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Saw on MLB Trade Rumors that LaRussa is thinking of putting Chris Carpenter in the closer's role.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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The managerial genius at work again.

[Ace]

<!--quoteo(post=8657:date=Jan 4 2009, 02:53 PM:name=Clapp)-->QUOTE (Clapp @ Jan 4 2009, 02:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Saw on MLB Trade Rumors that LaRussa is thinking of putting Chris Carpenter in the closer's role.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I saw that yesterday. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ph34r.gif[/img]

Sorry, sorry. I'm in hardcore pimping mode right now.

[Coldneck]

<!--quoteo(post=8680:date=Jan 4 2009, 03:34 PM:name=Destined)-->QUOTE (Destined @ Jan 4 2009, 03:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=8657:date=Jan 4 2009, 11:53 AM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Jan 4 2009, 11:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Saw on MLB Trade Rumors that LaRussa is thinking of putting Chris Carpenter in the closer's role.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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The managerial genius at work again.
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I don't think its a bad idea at all. StL's bullpen sucks. If they don't think Carp can stay healthy as a starter it makes pretty good sense to put him at the back of the bullpen. Ya know the Cubs tried this with some success as well.