08-21-2014, 01:49 PM
He obviously didn't practice playing the carom off the wall during BP ?
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08-21-2014, 01:50 PM
Quote:I hope not, because if they win it will open up lawsuits for every Cardinal trademark, every wildcat trademark,etc. It's similar because they are both the same bird. Duh! Wisconsin went after Waukee High School (near Des Moines) a few years back and got them to change the logo. http://www.jsonline.com/sports/badgers/29177404.html It is as old as time and bigger programs do need to protect their logo. Ridiculous, yes, but necessary. 
08-21-2014, 01:53 PM
Quote:<div></div> At least he was wearing his helmet,
One dick can poke an eye out. A hundred dicks can move mountains.
--Veryzer
08-21-2014, 02:35 PM
Quote:In a perfect world the DH would have never existed. That said, the NL has been at an offensive disadvantage vs. the AL for the better part of 25 years. The DH isn't going anywhere for several reasons (owners, unions, agents all like it and will fight for it), so at this point I am fine with implementing it across all of MLB. If it helps increase run production, which is sorely needed to attract the younger, short-attention-span-having generation to the sport, then it needs to be adopted sooner rather than later. I used to be against it, but I'm giving up. </blockquote> I will never understand the obsession with wanting to see a guy go up to the plate that, 99 times out of a 100, has no clue what he is doing. Forcing the pitcher to hit is like forcing an inning per game of having a position player pitch. It's dumb. The problem with the length of game argument is that other sports don't really have that much shorter of a game, it's just that they have more things going on. A pitch clock would be an amazing thing. Don't allow the batter to step out or call time, don't allow the pitcher to leave the mound (except to field a batted ball), only one trip to the mound by the catcher per inning and allow one substitute batter per inning where you can select any hitter in the lineup to slot into that inning. You'd ruin the record books as Trout/Cabrera/Harper would get 1,000+ PAs per season but you get the superstars of the game into the game more often. Football has success because: 1. Each week is an event. You spend 6 days talking about 2 games (the one that happened and the one that is going to happen) so they get a huge buildup every game. Baseball will never get this. 2. The superstars of the game are there every play. Late possession, down by a touchdown, you get the starting QB facing off against whatever star defensive player there is. Casual fans know who the superstars of the game are and by the end of the game you know who the QB and key defenders are even if they aren't stars. In baseball, it could be the bottom of the 9th with the bases loaded and you end up with Darwin Barney pinch hitting for the pitcher. 97.4% of the world has no clue who Darwin Barney is and he is facing off against a pitcher that (for most of the teams (and only when you get to face the closer)) not even all of that team's fanbase knows who the hell he is. If you knew that every time your team was down in the 9th you were sure to get your stud in there, it'd make for more interesting 9th inning baseball. 3. In football the offense and defense really are a part of the same team and can help each other out, in baseball you don't really have that. Regardless of what the defense does, the offense will still score however many runs they are going to. If the offense is routinely loading the bases, that has a net-zero impact for when they take the field on defense or in the next inning. Sure, you hope to get to the bullpen faster but a 9-inning game of baseball is really like there are 18 separate contests that loosely tie into each other. If baseball truly wants to compete against and beat football for the 18-35 demographic, it's going to require some drastic changes to the game that will make the DH rule seem old school. I think they should make some drastic changes. For as much as I LOVE baseball, it is an absolute pain to watch on TV (although, that may have something to do with the fact that I hate just sitting down and watching TV).
08-21-2014, 02:55 PM
I sincerely hope MLB dismisses any of those ideas (outside of an NL DH) without a moment's hesitation.
One dick can poke an eye out. A hundred dicks can move mountains.
--Veryzer 
08-21-2014, 03:36 PM
Quote:In a perfect world the DH would have never existed. That said, the NL has been at an offensive disadvantage vs. the AL for the better part of 25 years. The DH isn't going anywhere for several reasons (owners, unions, agents all like it and will fight for it), so at this point I am fine with implementing it across all of MLB. If it helps increase run production, which is sorely needed to attract the younger, short-attention-span-having generation to the sport, then it needs to be adopted sooner rather than later. I used to be against it, but I'm giving up. </blockquote> I will never understand the obsession with wanting to see a guy go up to the plate that, 99 times out of a 100, has no clue what he is doing. Forcing the pitcher to hit is like forcing an inning per game of having a position player pitch. It's dumb. The problem with the length of game argument is that other sports don't really have that much shorter of a game, it's just that they have more things going on. A pitch clock would be an amazing thing. Don't allow the batter to step out or call time, don't allow the pitcher to leave the mound (except to field a batted ball), only one trip to the mound by the catcher per inning and allow one substitute batter per inning where you can select any hitter in the lineup to slot into that inning. You'd ruin the record books as Trout/Cabrera/Harper would get 1,000+ PAs per season but you get the superstars of the game into the game more often. Football has success because: 1. Each week is an event. You spend 6 days talking about 2 games (the one that happened and the one that is going to happen) so they get a huge buildup every game. Baseball will never get this. 2. The superstars of the game are there every play. Late possession, down by a touchdown, you get the starting QB facing off against whatever star defensive player there is. Casual fans know who the superstars of the game are and by the end of the game you know who the QB and key defenders are even if they aren't stars. In baseball, it could be the bottom of the 9th with the bases loaded and you end up with Darwin Barney pinch hitting for the pitcher. 97.4% of the world has no clue who Darwin Barney is and he is facing off against a pitcher that (for most of the teams (and only when you get to face the closer)) not even all of that team's fanbase knows who the hell he is. If you knew that every time your team was down in the 9th you were sure to get your stud in there, it'd make for more interesting 9th inning baseball. 3. In football the offense and defense really are a part of the same team and can help each other out, in baseball you don't really have that. Regardless of what the defense does, the offense will still score however many runs they are going to. If the offense is routinely loading the bases, that has a net-zero impact for when they take the field on defense or in the next inning. Sure, you hope to get to the bullpen faster but a 9-inning game of baseball is really like there are 18 separate contests that loosely tie into each other. If baseball truly wants to compete against and beat football for the 18-35 demographic, it's going to require some drastic changes to the game that will make the DH rule seem old school. I think they should make some drastic changes. For as much as I LOVE baseball, it is an absolute pain to watch on TV (although, that may have something to do with the fact that I hate just sitting down and watching TV). </div> </blockquote> It's not about the desire to watch pitchers hit. It's about making managers decide what to do when a strong pitching performance meets a moment where offense is critical. It's probably becoming moot with the way pitching has become compartmentalized and ruled by roles and pitch counts.
08-21-2014, 03:38 PM
Quote: Wisconsin went after Waukee High School (near Des Moines) a few years back and got them to change the logo. http://www.jsonline.com/sports/badgers/29177404.html It is as old as time and bigger programs do need to protect their logo. Ridiculous, yes, but necessary. </div> </blockquote> Wisconsin went after my employer. http://cjonline.com/stories/120507/loc_222902997.shtml 
08-21-2014, 04:29 PM
Length of games is not really the issue, it's pace. People will gladly spend 12 hours on a Sunday watching football because 1) it's a weekly event not a daily ordeal like baseball 2) it's fucking Sunday and there's nothing else to do, and 3) winter time blows for 70% of the country, so football has a captive audience. Baseball requires a different level of patience and commitment than all of the other major sports. Speeding up the games would at least help attract the casual 1-3 game per week fan. Kids have largely written off the game because they have the attention spans of termites. This is a huge problem, regardless of how much cash all the TV contracts pull in. The avg age of baseball fans is well above 40. Something drastic needs to be done.
08-21-2014, 06:04 PM
Troll doll faced Gordon Beckham traded to Angels for PTBNL
08-21-2014, 07:13 PM
I'm a full believer that part of the reason that MLB has slid in popularity is because as TV production has advanced, baseball is the only sport which hasn't had its TV experience improve by much, and if anything has gotten worse. Yes, the base runner bug was huge and there's pitch trax, but for the most part, the broadcast we watch today is the same one our parents were watching in the 70s but with way more commercials and much slower relief pitchers.
Compare it to football where both technology and gameplay are advancing to form a great TV experience that is arguably better than actually being at the game. There's the perfect amount of time between plays for replays and analysis, actual useful sideline reporters and a variety of camera angles that can diagram plays provide legitimate information. Plus...fantasy football has fueled NFL TV viewership. You can now watch all of your players' key plays pretty easily, which makes fantasy football so big with casuals. You can't do that in baseball given the amount of games per year, per day, etc., so the only people watching baseball for fantasy reasons are the ones already watching religiously.
I hate my pretentious sounding username too.
08-21-2014, 07:26 PM
The baseball season is just too long. It needs to end before football starts. Play 82 games. All of the season records are already tainted anyway. I'm a diehard fan and I guarantee you once football starts up, it will take the majority of my free-time. Make up the extra revenues for the owners with a salary cap. League minumum is cut in half, cause you're playing half as long. Players union will never go for it, but you could argue player safety.
And you get to adjust your batting order so in the bottom of the ninth, no matter what, you're 1-2-3 hitters start off the inning.
08-21-2014, 07:55 PM
I'm sure MLB (or anybody, really) wouldn't agree with me, but I'd much rather they didn't change the game in any drastic way and just took the loss of viewership (and dollars). I don't need the game to be popular with more people. If ballplayers started getting paid a lot less as a result, well, so be it.
One dick can poke an eye out. A hundred dicks can move mountains.
--Veryzer 
08-22-2014, 12:46 AM
I know I'm in the minority, but I find football dreadfully boring on TV and in person.
08-22-2014, 01:08 AM
Quote:I know I'm in the minority, but I find football dreadfully boring on TV and in person.I don't find it boring, but the hundreds of commercial interruptions and the fact that only 11 minutes or so per game is actually spent playing the fucking game itself on average is pretty hilarious. |
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