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<!--quoteo(post=2189:date=Dec 8 2008, 10:51 AM:name=dk123)-->QUOTE (dk123 @ Dec 8 2008, 10:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=2166:date=Dec 8 2008, 10:18 AM:name=Andy)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Andy @ Dec 8 2008, 10:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->If you trust "sources close to the situation", they say Santo, Dick Allen and Joe Torre all got voted in. Here.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Reading the user replies at that link, I am amazed at the negative attitudes towards Santo potentially going in the hall. I truly believe that looking at it rationally, there is no way that Santo isn't a HOF. This is one of the problems with someone just looking at career batting numbers and making a determination. Those numbers don't tell the whole story. When you take everything into consideration, Santo is a surefire HOF. I think it's a travesty that he wasn't in a long time ago.
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I agree completely....I too was almost stunned by some of the responses. I figured they were mostly from uneducated biased fans.
The real travesty will be if he doesnt make it in today.
A herd of buffalo can move only as fast as the slowest buffalo. When the herd is hunted, it is the slowest and weakest ones at the back that are killed first. This natural selection is good for the herd as a whole, because the general speed and health of the whole group keeps improving by the regular killing of the weakest members.
In much the same way the human brain can only operate as fast as the slowest brain cells. Excessive intake of alcohol, we all know, kills brain cells, but naturally it attacks the slowest and weakest brain cells first. In this way regular consumption of beer eliminates the weaker brain cells, making the brain a faster and more efficient machine. That's why you always feel smarter after a few beers.
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<!--quoteo(post=2189:date=Dec 8 2008, 11:51 AM:name=dk123)-->QUOTE (dk123 @ Dec 8 2008, 11:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=2166:date=Dec 8 2008, 10:18 AM:name=Andy)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Andy @ Dec 8 2008, 10:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->If you trust "sources close to the situation", they say Santo, Dick Allen and Joe Torre all got voted in. Here.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Reading the user replies at that link, I am amazed at the negative attitudes towards Santo potentially going in the hall. I truly believe that looking at it rationally, there is no way that Santo isn't a HOF. This is one of the problems with someone just looking at career batting numbers and making a determination. Those numbers don't tell the whole story. When you take everything into consideration, Santo is a surefire HOF. I think it's a travesty that he wasn't in a long time ago.
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I totally agree with you Deke.
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I really feel like it's going to happen this year. Let's hope that this is just the start of good things in 2009.
Who's your daddy?
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<!--quoteo(post=2233:date=Dec 8 2008, 10:04 AM:name=dk123)-->QUOTE (dk123 @ Dec 8 2008, 10:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Unfuckingbelievable.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
So he's not in? I can't get the link to work.
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<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->LAS VEGAS -- Joe Gordon, a nine-time All-Star second baseman for the New York Yankees and Cleveland Indians and an American League MVP, was elected to the National Baseball Hall of Fame on Sunday by one of the two Veterans Committees charged with the assignment.
Gordon was the only one of 20 potential candidates elected by separate committees analyzing the careers of players whose careers began prior to 1943 and 1943 or after. Pittsburgh Pirates second baseman Bill Mazeroski was the last player voted into the Hall by a different formation of the current Veterans Committee in 2001.
Gordon, whose career began in 1938, was picked by the 12-person committee surveying candidates from his era. He received 10 votes. The announcement came on Monday at the annual Winter Meetings.
"We are thrilled and proud to welcome Joe Gordon to the Hall of Fame family," said Hall of Fame chairman of the board Jane Forbes Clark. "The Veterans Committee for this ballot had the challenge of considering players who retired long ago, but the Hall of Famers and historians on the Committee did their homework with diligence and effort, and we thank them."
Gordon will be inducted posthumously along with anyone selected by the Baseball Writers Association of America next July 26 during the annual ceremonies behind the Clark Sports Center in Cooperstown. On the BBWAA ballot, the most likely candidates are Rickey Henderson and Jim Rice.
<b>No one from the post-1942 committee was elected. That group included such fan favorites as Ron Santo, Joe Torre, Gil Hodges, Dick Allen, Jim Kaat, Tony Oliva, Al Oliver, Vada Pinson, Luis Tiant and Maury Wills. That 10-player ballot was handled by a Veterans Committee made up of the 64 living Hall of Famers. The vote was taken on Sunday.</b><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
This is not some silly theory that's unsupported and deserves being mocked by photos of Xena. ![[Image: ITgoyeg.png]](http://i.imgur.com/ITgoyeg.png)
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bullshit.
A herd of buffalo can move only as fast as the slowest buffalo. When the herd is hunted, it is the slowest and weakest ones at the back that are killed first. This natural selection is good for the herd as a whole, because the general speed and health of the whole group keeps improving by the regular killing of the weakest members.
In much the same way the human brain can only operate as fast as the slowest brain cells. Excessive intake of alcohol, we all know, kills brain cells, but naturally it attacks the slowest and weakest brain cells first. In this way regular consumption of beer eliminates the weaker brain cells, making the brain a faster and more efficient machine. That's why you always feel smarter after a few beers.
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You have got to be fucking SHITTING me. I can't begin to express how pissed off I am.
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Those mother fuckers can all burn in hell. He's not ever getting in.
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<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->Results of the 2008 Post-1942 Players Ballot (48 votes needed for election): Santo (39 votes, 60.9 percent), Jim Kaat (38, 59.4 percent), Tony Oliva (33, 51.6 percent), Gil Hodges (28, 43.8 percent), Joe Torre (19, 29.7 percent), Maury Wills (15, 23.4 percent), Luis Tiant (13, 20.3 percent), Vada Pinson (12, 18.8 percent), Al Oliver (nine, 14.1 percent), Dick Allen (seven, 10.9 percent)<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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HOF Article.
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->Results of the 2008 Post-1942 Players Ballot (48 votes needed for election): Santo (39 votes, 60.9 percent), Jim Kaat (38, 59.4 percent), Tony Oliva (33, 51.6 percent), Gil Hodges (28, 43.8 percent), Joe Torre (19, 29.7 percent), Maury Wills (15, 23.4 percent), Luis Tiant (13, 20.3 percent), Vada Pinson (12, 18.8 percent), Al Oliver (nine, 14.1 percent), Dick Allen (seven, 10.9 percent).<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I got nothin'.
Andy
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<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->the 64 living Hall of Famers<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Who of those 64 aren't voting for Santo? WHO?
I just don't get this at all.
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I have a lump in my throat right now. Again, I will always be pessimistic about anything Santo related, and Cubs related too for that matter until I'm given a reason to change my outlook on things. I'm nowhere close to being there yet.
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<!--quoteo(post=2244:date=Dec 8 2008, 10:09 AM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Dec 8 2008, 10:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <!--quotec-->the 64 living Hall of Famers<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Who of those 64 aren't voting for Santo? WHO?
I just don't get this at all.
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I don't get it either. They're all apparently a bunch of fucking snobs. Fuck the Hall.
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There has to be a reason. Maybe there are a number of the guys that just don't like Santo?
It's unfortunate they don't show how they voted.
I got nothin'.
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