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<!--quoteo(post=26787:date=Apr 4 2009, 02:02 AM:name=rok)-->QUOTE (rok @ Apr 4 2009, 02:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Thank God we didn't get stuck with this turd as the new owner. What a piece of work.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/nl...353782256_x.htm
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By Jim Litke, AP Sports Columnist
CHICAGO — For those who say 101 years is plenty of time to get over an inferiority complex, meet the fans of the 2009 Chicago Cubs.
The saps can't catch a break. Just last week, a local billionaire who spent most of last year trying to buy the ballclub got up at breakfast with the Executives' Club of Chicago and confirmed what every Cub fan suspected deep down: That for one reason or another, owners and even would-be owners weren't giving it their all.
<b>"I'm actually a White Sox fan," said John Canning Jr., who runs a private-equity firm and is a pal of MLB commissioner Bud Selig.
"God, what a relief," he added a heartbeat later, "not to buy the Cubs."</b>
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Is Canning 5 years old? What a little bitch.
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Isn't that the douche that Selig wanted to win?
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Why would the Cubs move from Mesa to Florida? That seems like a stupid decision that would hurt revenue. They set attendance records EVERY YEAR in Mesa...why mess with something that is working so well?
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<!--quoteo(post=26799:date=Apr 4 2009, 08:02 AM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Apr 4 2009, 08:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=26787:date=Apr 4 2009, 02:02 AM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Apr 4 2009, 02:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Thank God we didn't get stuck with this turd as the new owner. What a piece of work.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/nl...353782256_x.htm
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <!--quotec-->An inferiority complex 101 years in the making
By Jim Litke, AP Sports Columnist
CHICAGO — For those who say 101 years is plenty of time to get over an inferiority complex, meet the fans of the 2009 Chicago Cubs.
The saps can't catch a break. Just last week, a local billionaire who spent most of last year trying to buy the ballclub got up at breakfast with the Executives' Club of Chicago and confirmed what every Cub fan suspected deep down: That for one reason or another, owners and even would-be owners weren't giving it their all.
<b>"I'm actually a White Sox fan," said John Canning Jr., who runs a private-equity firm and is a pal of MLB commissioner Bud Selig.
"God, what a relief," he added a heartbeat later, "not to buy the Cubs."</b>
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Is Canning 5 years old? What a little bitch.
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I hope his dick gets caught in a meat grinder.
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<!--quoteo(post=26808:date=Apr 4 2009, 10:19 AM:name=Runnys)-->QUOTE (Runnys @ Apr 4 2009, 10:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Why would the Cubs move from Mesa to Florida? That seems like a stupid decision that would hurt revenue. They set attendance records EVERY YEAR in Mesa...why mess with something that is working so well?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The Cubs are using "moving to Florida" as a way to get Mesa to upgrade their facilities for them. HoHoKam is outdated compared to almost every other team in Arizona, the Cubs don't want to move, but if somewhere in Florida is willing to give them better facilities, Mesa better do the same.
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<!--quoteo(post=26810:date=Apr 4 2009, 10:22 AM:name=ruby23)-->QUOTE (ruby23 @ Apr 4 2009, 10:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=26808:date=Apr 4 2009, 10:19 AM:name=Runnys)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Runnys @ Apr 4 2009, 10:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Why would the Cubs move from Mesa to Florida? That seems like a stupid decision that would hurt revenue. They set attendance records EVERY YEAR in Mesa...why mess with something that is working so well?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The Cubs are using "moving to Florida" as a way to get Mesa to upgrade their facilities for them. HoHoKam is outdated compared to almost every other team in Arizona, the Cubs don't want to move, but if somewhere in Florida is willing to give them better facilities, Mesa better do the same.
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I didn't think about that, but it makes sense. Of course, Mesa would be retarded to not upgrade their facilities for the Cubs.
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The Cubs are using "moving to Florida" as a way to get Mesa to upgrade their facilities for them. HoHoKam is outdated compared to almost every other team in Arizona, the Cubs don't want to move, but if somewhere in Florida is willing to give them better facilities, Mesa better do the same.
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That's exactly the reason. At the same time, it sounds to me as though they're looking to build a new facility entirely, and are maybe just prodding the city for tax incentives or something of that nature. I don't think Mesa has a choice but to play ball, no pun intended.
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<!--quoteo(post=26815:date=Apr 4 2009, 10:33 AM:name=rok)-->QUOTE (rok @ Apr 4 2009, 10:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=26810:date=Apr 4 2009, 10:22 AM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Apr 4 2009, 10:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=26808:date=Apr 4 2009, 10:19 AM:name=Runnys)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Runnys @ Apr 4 2009, 10:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Why would the Cubs move from Mesa to Florida? That seems like a stupid decision that would hurt revenue. They set attendance records EVERY YEAR in Mesa...why mess with something that is working so well?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The Cubs are using "moving to Florida" as a way to get Mesa to upgrade their facilities for them. HoHoKam is outdated compared to almost every other team in Arizona, the Cubs don't want to move, but if somewhere in Florida is willing to give them better facilities, Mesa better do the same.
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That's exactly the reason. At the same time, it sounds to me as though they're looking to build a new facility entirely, and are maybe just prodding the city for tax incentives or something of that nature. I don't think Mesa has a choice but to play ball, no pun intended.
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FWIW, Mesa is almost flat broke. They just laid off a massive amount of teachers in their district.
I'd really hate to see the Cubs leave Arizona. I have warm memories of them training in Scottsdale when I was a kid. It was bike-riding distance away, and in those days, a kid could actually wander out onto the field, and sit in the dugout and stuff. It was awesome.
There's nothing better than to realize that the good things about youth don't end with youth itself. It's a matter of realizing that life can be renewed every day you get out of bed without baggage. It's tough to get there, but it's better than the dark thoughts. -Lance
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The Cubs are using "moving to Florida" as a way to get Mesa to upgrade their facilities for them. HoHoKam is outdated compared to almost every other team in Arizona, the Cubs don't want to move, but if somewhere in Florida is willing to give them better facilities, Mesa better do the same.
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That's exactly the reason. At the same time, it sounds to me as though they're looking to build a new facility entirely, and are maybe just prodding the city for tax incentives or something of that nature. I don't think Mesa has a choice but to play ball, no pun intended.
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FWIW, Mesa is almost flat broke. They just laid off a massive amount of teachers in their district.
I'd really hate to see the Cubs leave Arizona. I have warm memories of them training in Scottsdale when I was a kid. It was bike-riding distance away, and in those days, a kid could actually wander out onto the field, and sit in the dugout and stuff. It was awesome.
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I'm aware of the state of Arizona's financial difficulties right now (and Florida for that matter as well). It's a tradeoff though. You either sacrifice a small bit of tax revenue for more tourist traffic or you lose it all by being stubborn and chasing the team out of town. I'm glad it isn't my decision, but I'm sure that most towns in Florida are in similar predicaments as Mesa, but would still love to preserve and possibly create jobs in any way they can.
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Conflicting stories here from different sources, one claiming that the deal won't close by next month after the owners' meetings on May 20-21 as previously reported. Who knows, but I'm, getting antsy.
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I would be absolutely devastated if the Cubs left Mesa. Seriously. My cousins live about a mile and a half from HoHoKam and my parents' final resting place is right across the street in the cemetery there. I've been flying out there every spring for the last four or five years (and many years before that with my family as a kid) and that just wouldn't happen anymore if they moved to Florida.
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I seriously doubt they'd move to Florida. Every player hates training in FL becuase the drives are so far for each game. If they move it will be for another town in Arizona. Probably North of Scottsdale somewhere. I really think Mesa will make this deal work though.
My parents lived near Carefree and Cave Creek for several years and they still have many contacts there. They say that Cave Creek has been interested in brining in a new team for several years. I don't see how the town could support though because its tiny. There is a ton of money in that area though.
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They're just playing hardball with the city. I don't think they have any intention to move to Florida, especially since the trend lately has been to move west, not east. Also, Florida is possibly in worse economic shape than Arizona, so good luck getting financial incentives to move there.
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Your life was a mistake, troll...
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By Lorene Yue
April 15, 2009
(Crain’s) — Sam Zell admits that taking over Tribune Co. hasn’t gone according to plan and was a “mistake.”
“The definition if you bought something and it’s now worth a great deal less, you made a mistake,” he told Bloomberg Television on Wednesday. “And I’m more than willing to say I made a mistake. I was too optimistic in terms of the newspaper’s ability to preserve its position.”
The Chicago billionaire, who made his fortune from commercial real estate, was instrumental in taking the parent of the Chicago Tribune and Los Angeles Times private through a complex deal that saddled it with $13 billion in debt. Tribune Co. filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection in December, a move Mr. Zell said in Wednesday’s interview was necessary to “stop the bleeding and preserve a great company.”
The process that Mr. Zell used to take Tribune private caught the attention recently of the U.S. Department of Labor, which last month subpoenaed the company for documents related to its Employees Stock Ownership Plan, now the sole owner of Tribune Co.
Mr. Zell said he was unprepared for how quickly and steeply the newspaper industry has deteriorated.
“We underwrote the Tribune (deal) based on the fact that over the previous five years, we had seen an erosion of about 3%,” he told Bloomberg; he didn’t specify the losses to which he was referring. But in the months before filing for bankruptcy protection, the company saw a 25% decline, losses that “in a leverage business are just insurmountable.” He called the figure “significantly larger” than expected.
He said the company is looking at all its options, but he ruled out the possibility of a merger.
“That’s like asking someone in another business if they want to get vaccinated with a live virus,” he said. “I don’t think there’s a long list of people who want to buy a newspaper company today.”<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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I can't help but take more than a little pleasure in this whole thing.
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