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Bullpen
<!--quoteo(post=32532:date=Apr 23 2009, 02:40 PM:name=ColoradoCub)-->QUOTE (ColoradoCub @ Apr 23 2009, 02:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32530:date=Apr 23 2009, 12:32 PM:name=Coldneck)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Coldneck @ Apr 23 2009, 12:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Vizcaino's contract is a sunk cost. If improving the pen can be done by getting rid of a shitty pitcher than it should be done regardless of how much money he is paid. I question why Cotts is on the roster, but I do think we need a left hander and Vizcaino was a time bomb waiting to explode. Thankfully we get rid of him so he can blow up another team's bullpen.

THIS MOVE MAKES SENSE. The Cubs are better for it. At the end of the day we saved the $6 million difference between Marquis and Vizcaino's contracts.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

The move may make sense, but how we arrived at this point doesn't. If they didn't think much of Vizcaino, and never intended to carry him thru the season, he never should have made the roster out of spring training in the first place.
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Who would you have kept on the roster at the end of spring training? I guess your answer would have been Gaudin who would have been dropped when Spellcheck was ready anyhow. Spellcheck wasn't ready at the end of spring training. I see no reason not to send him to Iowa for extra work and keep Vizcaino or Gaudin. The order they were dropped really doesn't matter to me.

And the money argument makes no sense. Whether Vizcaino was on the team or not we would be paying his salary. I rather pay him to blow up another team's pen than ours.
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<!--quoteo(post=32533:date=Apr 23 2009, 01:43 PM:name=Clapp)-->QUOTE (Clapp @ Apr 23 2009, 01:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Brenly just said how it wasn't widely reported, but Vizcaino's tardiness had become an issue. Makes a little more sense. That shit will drive Lou nuts.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Yeah, that does make a little more sense. I knew there had to be more to this.
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<!--quoteo(post=32534:date=Apr 23 2009, 12:46 PM:name=Coldneck)-->QUOTE (Coldneck @ Apr 23 2009, 12:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32532:date=Apr 23 2009, 02:40 PM:name=ColoradoCub)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ColoradoCub @ Apr 23 2009, 02:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32530:date=Apr 23 2009, 12:32 PM:name=Coldneck)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Coldneck @ Apr 23 2009, 12:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Vizcaino's contract is a sunk cost. If improving the pen can be done by getting rid of a shitty pitcher than it should be done regardless of how much money he is paid. I question why Cotts is on the roster, but I do think we need a left hander and Vizcaino was a time bomb waiting to explode. Thankfully we get rid of him so he can blow up another team's bullpen.

THIS MOVE MAKES SENSE. The Cubs are better for it. At the end of the day we saved the $6 million difference between Marquis and Vizcaino's contracts.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

The move may make sense, but how we arrived at this point doesn't. If they didn't think much of Vizcaino, and never intended to carry him thru the season, he never should have made the roster out of spring training in the first place.
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Who would you have kept on the roster at the end of spring training? I guess your answer would have been Gaudin who would have been dropped when Spellcheck was ready anyhow. Spellcheck wasn't ready at the end of spring training. I see no reason not to send him to Iowa for extra work and keep Vizcaino or Gaudin. The order they were dropped really doesn't matter to me.

And the money argument makes no sense. Whether Vizcaino was on the team or not we would be paying his salary. I rather pay him to blow up another team's pen than ours.
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Yeah, but Gaudin is a young pitcher that's had success in the past, and can spot start. It's entirely feasible that he would have turned it around and been able to justify being on the roster... That way we could have cut Cotts to bring up Shark. It just seems like a series of poorly thought out decisions and knee jerk reactions.
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<!--quoteo(post=32533:date=Apr 23 2009, 02:43 PM:name=Clapp)-->QUOTE (Clapp @ Apr 23 2009, 02:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Brenly just said how it wasn't widely reported, but Vizcaino's tardiness had become an issue. Makes a little more sense. That shit will drive Lou nuts.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I'll take tardy over useless.
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<!--quoteo(post=32617:date=Apr 23 2009, 03:30 PM:name=FlyAtTheThigh)-->QUOTE (FlyAtTheThigh @ Apr 23 2009, 03:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32533:date=Apr 23 2009, 02:43 PM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Apr 23 2009, 02:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Brenly just said how it wasn't widely reported, but Vizcaino's tardiness had become an issue. Makes a little more sense. That shit will drive Lou nuts.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I'll take tardy over useless.
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Exactly. Just a series of strange moves from the offseason on.

Cotts is completely useless and hasn't shown me dick so far.
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Get Cotts the fuck off this team.....NOW.
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Yeah, I guess we couldn't have used Gaudin over Viscaino or Cotts...

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He allowed just two hits and walked none. Gaudin, who was released by the Cubs at the end of the spring, opted to sign with the Padres because he'd have a chance to start, and it looks like he may be in the team's rotation before long with the way he's progressing. He hasn't given up a run in two starts for Portland.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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<!--quoteo(post=32818:date=Apr 24 2009, 09:01 AM:name=ColoradoCub)-->QUOTE (ColoradoCub @ Apr 24 2009, 09:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Yeah, I guess we couldn't have used Gaudin over Viscaino or Cotts...

<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <!--quotec-->Chad Gaudin struck out seven in five scoreless innings for Triple-A Portland on Thursday.
He allowed just two hits and walked none. Gaudin, who was released by the Cubs at the end of the spring, opted to sign with the Padres because he'd have a chance to start, and it looks like he may be in the team's rotation before long with the way he's progressing. He hasn't given up a run in two starts for Portland.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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I just saw that and was baout to post it. That and Sharks shitty performance yesterday may have changed my mind a bit.
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At the risk of pissing people off who are enjoying bashing Lou and the bullpen....you guys do realize we scored 2 runs the last two days.....two FUCKING runs....THAT is why we didn't win!!
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<!--quoteo(post=32821:date=Apr 24 2009, 07:56 AM:name=Runnys)-->QUOTE (Runnys @ Apr 24 2009, 07:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->At the risk of pissing people off who are enjoying bashing Lou and the bullpen....you guys do realize we scored 2 runs the last two days.....two FUCKING runs....THAT is why we didn't win!!<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I only counted one
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Maybe Gaudin was an ass in Chicago because he wanted to be a starter.
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<!--quoteo(post=32823:date=Apr 24 2009, 09:33 AM:name=Coach)-->QUOTE (Coach @ Apr 24 2009, 09:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Maybe Gaudin was an ass in Chicago because he wanted to be a starter.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Maybe, but that's the job of a good manager to try to rein in certain people and make sure they perform for you in any capacity that will help the team.
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Kerry Wood just allowed a 3-run bomb to Jason Bay and now has a 7.71 ERA.
@TheBlogfines
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Cotts vs. Shark
I hate my pretentious sounding username too.
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<!--quoteo(post=33653:date=Apr 28 2009, 12:01 AM:name=Destined)-->QUOTE (Destined @ Apr 28 2009, 12:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Cotts vs. Shark<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->


HOLY CRAPARONI! That is some baaaaaaad acting.
I wish that I believed in Fate. I wish I didn't sleep so late. I used to be carried in the arms of cheerleaders.
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