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I've been thinking about this over and over and none of it makes sense. I won't lose any sleep over losing Vizcaino, but why not Cotts? His lefthandedness has never actually been a strength. Plus it just pisses me off that we keep eating contracts.
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The only thing I can think of is they think they can trade vizcaino but not cotts
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<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->If no one signs Vizcaino, the Cubs will eat $4 million, including the $500,000 buyout of his 2010 option.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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Glad saving all that money by getting rid of DeRosa helped out. My oh my, his 15 RBIs would sure break the bank wouldn't they. Hendry has lost his mind. DeRo, Gaudin, and Vizcaino, 3 moves that make little to no sense. Is Trachsel available or something?
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every time the cubs make a move, i find it harder and harder to defend them. cotts is struggling, so we bring up spellcheck and move vizcaino....who isn't struggling. i'm confused.
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<!--quoteo(post=32428:date=Apr 22 2009, 11:38 PM:name=sleepyhead)-->QUOTE (sleepyhead @ Apr 22 2009, 11:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32425:date=Apr 22 2009, 10:34 PM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Apr 22 2009, 10:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I've been thinking about this over and over and none of it makes sense. I won't lose any sleep over losing Vizcaino, but why not Cotts? His lefthandedness has never actually been a strength. Plus it just pisses me off that we keep eating contracts.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The only thing I can think of is they think they can trade vizcaino but not cotts
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I'd say it's a combination of that, and the simple left-handed thing. Doesn't matter that he sucks, and isn't really great against lefties. Lou would rather die than not have a lefty in the pen.
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<!--quoteo(post=32455:date=Apr 23 2009, 07:15 AM:name=Ace)-->QUOTE (Ace @ Apr 23 2009, 07:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32428:date=Apr 22 2009, 11:38 PM:name=sleepyhead)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (sleepyhead @ Apr 22 2009, 11:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32425:date=Apr 22 2009, 10:34 PM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Apr 22 2009, 10:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I've been thinking about this over and over and none of it makes sense. I won't lose any sleep over losing Vizcaino, but why not Cotts? His lefthandedness has never actually been a strength. Plus it just pisses me off that we keep eating contracts.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The only thing I can think of is they think they can trade vizcaino but not cotts
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I'd say it's a combination of that, and the simple left-handed thing. Doesn't matter that he sucks, and isn't really great against lefties. Lou would rather die than not have a lefty in the pen.
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When I first heard this I thought, "awesome. Spellcheck is starting, Marshall to be the lefty in the pen and Cotts is gone."
Am I crazy? Shouldn't it be that easy?
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Glad saving all that money by getting rid of DeRosa helped out. My oh my, his 15 RBIs would sure break the bank wouldn't they. Hendry has lost his mind. DeRo, Gaudin, and Vizcaino, 3 moves that make little to no sense. Is Trachsel available or something?
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No, but his .224 average and .304 OBP might.
For God's sake guys, we didn't trade Albert Pujols. Mark DeRosa is a nice player. But the Cubs didn't trade him simply for the money, and it's NOT the end of the world. The move saved money. AND it got us prospects. AND it opened up 2b for a lefty who had really good numbers last year AND is younger than Dero.
It may end up a terrible move. Fontenot might end up showing us that last years numbers were a fluke. DeRosa might end up showing us that last year was NOT a fluke. But until that happens, can we please give up on the constant "we never should have traded DeRosa" moaning?
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Glad saving all that money by getting rid of DeRosa helped out. My oh my, his 15 RBIs would sure break the bank wouldn't they. Hendry has lost his mind. DeRo, Gaudin, and Vizcaino, 3 moves that make little to no sense. Is Trachsel available or something?
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No, but his .224 average and .304 OBP might.
For God's sake guys, we didn't trade Albert Pujols. Mark DeRosa is a nice player. But the Cubs didn't trade him simply for the money, and it's NOT the end of the world. The move saved money. AND it got us prospects. AND it opened up 2b for a lefty who had really good numbers last year AND is younger than Dero.
It may end up a terrible move. Fontenot might end up showing us that last years numbers were a fluke. DeRosa might end up showing us that last year was NOT a fluke. But until that happens, can we please give up on the constant "we never should have traded DeRosa" moaning?
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You just said everything I feel, but was to lazy to type.
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The only thing I can think of is they think they can trade vizcaino but not cotts
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I'd say it's a combination of that, and the simple left-handed thing. Doesn't matter that he sucks, and isn't really great against lefties. Lou would rather die than not have a lefty in the pen.
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When I first heard this I thought, "awesome. Spellcheck is starting, Marshall to be the lefty in the pen and Cotts is gone."
Am I crazy? Shouldn't it be that easy?
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Except for the fact that Marshall is, at least now, a better starter then Shark. I don't want Shark in the rotation, he hasn't proven he can do it. He had a couple good AAA starts after a terrible spring, that doesn't scream replace Marshall to me.
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Glad saving all that money by getting rid of DeRosa helped out. My oh my, his 15 RBIs would sure break the bank wouldn't they. Hendry has lost his mind. DeRo, Gaudin, and Vizcaino, 3 moves that make little to no sense. Is Trachsel available or something?
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No, but his .224 average and .304 OBP might.
For God's sake guys, we didn't trade Albert Pujols. Mark DeRosa is a nice player. But the Cubs didn't trade him simply for the money, and it's NOT the end of the world. The move saved money. AND it got us prospects. AND it opened up 2b for a lefty who had really good numbers last year AND is younger than Dero.
It may end up a terrible move. Fontenot might end up showing us that last years numbers were a fluke. DeRosa might end up showing us that last year was NOT a fluke. But until that happens, can we please give up on the constant "we never should have traded DeRosa" moaning?
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6 of his RBI came in one game against the Yankees when they won 24-3 or whatever too.
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Vizcaino to the Nats before the end of the week, book it.
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Vizcaino to the Nats before the end of the week, book it.
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Nats or Reds, though I think we'll be eating some of his salary for either of those to happen.
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