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There have been more than a few complaints about Lou lately (and I don't think there's any question he's made some bonehead decisions, but overall, I think we could do much worse).......However, if you could pick anyone to replace him, who would you choose?
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I like Lou, but I think he was sort of an over correction. Dusty was seen as too permissive, so Hendry felt like he had to get a hardass.
I don't know if there is a "perfect" manager, but I've felt for a while that I'd like our manager to be an ex-Cub -- someone who really understands the culture surrounding the team and the unique pressures involved with playing for the Cubs.
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I am very interested in seeing what Alan Trammell has to offer after Lou steps down.
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I don't see that happening. The Cubs are letting him interview for other jobs right now if he wants to.
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Here's a couple blurbs about that
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With one big-league manager already fired this season (Bob Melvin in Arizona) and at least two or three others considered on hot seats, the managing job market could be hot all summer -- which could have an impact on the Cubs' coaching staff with bench coach Alan Trammell interested in returning to managing.
"If the right opportunity came up, I would definitely have interest," said Trammell, the former Detroit manager who called the Arizona job one of those kinds of potential opportunities. "But right now it doesn't even cross my mind. We've got our hands full here."
Trammell hasn't interviewed for a managing job since going after jobs in Tampa Bay and with the Dodgers, both before the 2006 season.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->Is the hiring of A.J. Hinch to manage the Diamondbacks a waving of the white flag? That's not how it is being sold, but Don Baylor or Alan Trammell would have been better picks to deliver an instant contender. The Cubs won't stand in the way if a team wants to hire Trammell, who is Lou Piniella's bench coach, even if it is during the season.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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<!--quoteo(post=37294:date=May 11 2009, 07:21 PM:name=alpha)-->QUOTE (alpha @ May 11 2009, 07:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Mike Scioscia<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Agreed. Ron Gardenhire right up there as well. For this team though, I still love Lou. His decision-making of late is pissing me off, but he'll learn the team, particularly the bullpen soon and be much less annoying.
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I'd love to see a Ryno/Maddux combo taking on the managerial and pitching coach duties.
That said, I don't believe I'd be satisfied with any manager who takes over this team, to be perfectly honest. In the grand scheme of things, if the players aren't mentally tough enough or motivated to win here of all places, it will be next to impossible for any manager to straighten them out. I think we, myself included, put too much into who is running things in the clubhouse, and we get distracted away from the poor organizational structure at times. Ricketts needs to come in here and re-evaluate the entire organization from top-to-bottom. That's what happened in Boston, and that's what needs to happen here.
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I know it'll never ever happen but i wonder what a game with Ron Santo in the dugout wouldbe like...hell do anything for a world series.. but I really like Lou as our manager.. I know he's done a few dumb things but hey...we could go back to the Don Baylor days. HA! But I saw the Ryno idea thrown around somewhere in this thread and I like that one
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Santo would probably have a stroke or go into a diabetic coma after the first loss, I'm sorry to say.
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<!--quoteo(post=37292:date=May 11 2009, 06:04 PM:name=Runnys)-->QUOTE (Runnys @ May 11 2009, 06:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Bobby Cox<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Overrated. All of those titles were when the team was loaded, and he had Mazzone. Since Furcal, Lopez, etc. left, he's done nothing with mediocre/good talent. A great manager would mold that team into a winner, he hasn't. Gardenhire is a perfect example of that, like Clapp mentioned.
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Overrated. All of those titles were when the team was loaded, and he had Mazzone. Since Furcal, Lopez, etc. left, he's done nothing with mediocre/good talent. A great manager would mold that team into a winner, he hasn't. Gardenhire is a perfect example of that, like Clapp mentioned.
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First, if you want to talk overrated, that would be Mazzone. It's not too hard to have a successful pitching staff when you have guys like Maddux, Smoltz, Glavine, Neagle, Schmidt, etc. He was still very good because he could get the most of out his guys, but not some magician like he used to be portrayed as.
As for Cox and what he did for that team, I remember year after year, everyone would say it was the year they wouldn't make the playoffs because they're talent was waning, but every year he made the most of his team and got the job done. I think he's one of the best managers of our generation.
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Someone who doesn't cost $4 million?
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