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<!--quoteo(post=68764:date=Nov 12 2009, 11:03 AM:name=veryzer)-->QUOTE (veryzer @ Nov 12 2009, 11:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->everyone in baseball knew it was a risk to sign bradley. everyone, including me, who liked the move.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I don't know why I keep typing it but here it goes again. Bradley was as much a risk as the other right field possibilities last off-season. He played Russian Roulette and got the bullet. Would you rather have just gone with Reed Johnson as our right fielder?

<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->patterson tore it up for two months. no more and no less.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

So.... are you saying Hendry should have tried to trade him after his knee surgery? Before even playing with the major league team? What exactly did you expect him to do with Patterson?

<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->i knew pie was a bust from day one. he should have been traded while he still had value. i'm not the only one to think that.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

And what was it that gave you this heads up information? Was it your scouting abilities? Was it the fact that you tracked box scores and looked at statistics from the minor leagues that would lead most people to believe he would succeed? Or was it the crazy irrational feeling that he's "the next Patterson" because he looks like Patterson, is left handed, and athletic? Did you predict the same thing for Matt Kemp? Or Michael Bourn? Dexter Fowler? Or Nyjer Morgan? And how exactly is a 25 year old player with 500 ABs a bust?

<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->the way hendry handled the sosa situation was brutal. he trashed sosa after the '04 season and made it virtually impossible to trade him for any value.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

We're going to just disagree here, so I'm not even getting into it with you.
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<!--quoteo(post=68863:date=Nov 12 2009, 09:13 PM:name=Scarey)-->QUOTE (Scarey @ Nov 12 2009, 09:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=68764:date=Nov 12 2009, 11:03 AM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Nov 12 2009, 11:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->everyone in baseball knew it was a risk to sign bradley. everyone, including me, who liked the move.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->the way hendry handled the sosa situation was brutal. he trashed sosa after the '04 season and made it virtually impossible to trade him for any value.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

We're going to just disagree here, so I'm not even getting into it with you.
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What is there to disagree about. Tom is exactly right, that's what happened. Sosa was dragged through the mud before they started trying to trade him. I'm not really sure where the argument is there.
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It's surprising to me that everyone agrees that Hendry blew it big-time by purposely making Sosa "damaged goods" right before trying to trade him, yet no one will admit that he did the exact same thing with Bradley.

To call him out in the media, and basically say "we hate you and you will never play for us again" when he still has 2 years left on a hefty contract...that's something a 22 year old intern would do, not the GM of a multi-million dollar franchise.

As far as tomveryzer "knowing" that Pie would be a bust? He didn't. He simply made an educated guess, since only about 1 in 10 heralded prospects ever turn out to be real stars. However, a fan <i>could</i> have predicted the future failures of Patterson and Pie by simply looking at their strikeout/walk stats. Neither guy had any kind of plate discipline, and MLB pitchers <i>feast</i> on free-swingers.
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<!--quoteo(post=68871:date=Nov 12 2009, 10:53 PM:name=KBwsb)-->QUOTE (KBwsb @ Nov 12 2009, 10:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->To call him out in the media, and basically say "we hate you and you will never play for us again" when he still has 2 years left on a hefty contract...that's something a 22 year old intern would do, not the GM of a multi-million dollar franchise.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You really are an insane person aren't you? If Hendry's comments about Bradley made you think he said that then you should be institutionalized.
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<!--quoteo(post=68874:date=Nov 13 2009, 12:09 AM:name=PcB)-->QUOTE (PcB @ Nov 13 2009, 12:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=68871:date=Nov 12 2009, 10:53 PM:name=KBwsb)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KBwsb @ Nov 12 2009, 10:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->To call him out in the media, and basically say "we hate you and you will never play for us again" when he still has 2 years left on a hefty contract...that's something a 22 year old intern would do, not the GM of a multi-million dollar franchise.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You really are an insane person aren't you? If Hendry's comments about Bradley made you think he said that then you should be institutionalized.
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I agree with KB. Guess we can share a room at the instituition.
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<!--quoteo(post=68884:date=Nov 13 2009, 10:57 AM:name=Coldneck)-->QUOTE (Coldneck @ Nov 13 2009, 10:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=68874:date=Nov 13 2009, 12:09 AM:name=PcB)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PcB @ Nov 13 2009, 12:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=68871:date=Nov 12 2009, 10:53 PM:name=KBwsb)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KBwsb @ Nov 12 2009, 10:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->To call him out in the media, and basically say "we hate you and you will never play for us again" when he still has 2 years left on a hefty contract...that's something a 22 year old intern would do, not the GM of a multi-million dollar franchise.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You really are an insane person aren't you? If Hendry's comments about Bradley made you think he said that then you should be institutionalized.
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I agree with KB. Guess we can share a room at the instituition.
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When did Hendry or Pinella or anyone in the Cubs organization call him out in the press? Bradly acted a damn fool, got suspended and the press wrote about it. Maybe I'm missing something here.
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<!--quoteo(post=68871:date=Nov 12 2009, 10:53 PM:name=KBwsb)-->QUOTE (KBwsb @ Nov 12 2009, 10:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->It's surprising to me that everyone agrees that Hendry blew it big-time by purposely making Sosa "damaged goods" right before trying to trade him, yet no one will admit that he did the exact same thing with Bradley.

To call him out in the media, and basically say "we hate you and you will never play for us again" when he still has 2 years left on a hefty contract...that's something a 22 year old intern would do, not the GM of a multi-million dollar franchise.

As far as tomveryzer "knowing" that Pie would be a bust? He didn't. He simply made an educated guess, since only about 1 in 10 heralded prospects ever turn out to be real stars. However, a fan <i>could</i> have predicted the future failures of Patterson and Pie by simply looking at their strikeout/walk stats. Neither guy had any kind of plate discipline, and MLB pitchers <i>feast</i> on free-swingers.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->


dude, hendry HAD to do what he did with bradley. there was still a month to go and a very slim chance of playoffs. bradley was disrupting the entire team. he was a distraction DURING THE SEASON. sosa pulled his shit the last day of a lost year. instead of keeping his mouth shut, he buried sosa in the press, making it virtually impossible to get any value for him. big big difference kb.



how was ibanez or abreau or even dunn (and i hate dunn) a bigger crapshoot? even if they underperformed, we knew they would probably stay healthy and not be douchebags. Bradley was clearly the bigger crapshoot.

i'll back off the patterson thing, but not pie. some of us were screaming for hendry to trade pie while he still had some kind of ceiling. hendry waited and got nothing for him.
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<!--quoteo(post=68887:date=Nov 13 2009, 10:17 AM:name=Dirk)-->QUOTE (Dirk @ Nov 13 2009, 10:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=68884:date=Nov 13 2009, 10:57 AM:name=Coldneck)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Coldneck @ Nov 13 2009, 10:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=68874:date=Nov 13 2009, 12:09 AM:name=PcB)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PcB @ Nov 13 2009, 12:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=68871:date=Nov 12 2009, 10:53 PM:name=KBwsb)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KBwsb @ Nov 12 2009, 10:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->To call him out in the media, and basically say "we hate you and you will never play for us again" when he still has 2 years left on a hefty contract...that's something a 22 year old intern would do, not the GM of a multi-million dollar franchise.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You really are an insane person aren't you? If Hendry's comments about Bradley made you think he said that then you should be institutionalized.
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I agree with KB. Guess we can share a room at the instituition.
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When did Hendry or Pinella or anyone in the Cubs organization call him out in the press? Bradly acted a damn fool, got suspended and the press wrote about it. Maybe I'm missing something here.
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I don't think Hendry said anything vicious or damning about Bradley directly, but there have been constant leaks to the press about how Bradley is a loner and a bad teammate, blew up at Von Joshua, etc. and that he wouldn't be accepted back since he was suspended. Someone needs to put a muzzle on whoever these inside sources are leaking this shit, because it is getting ridiculous and looks unprofessional, and doesn't make the job of trying to dump Bradley any easier.
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<!--quoteo(post=68892:date=Nov 13 2009, 11:28 AM:name=veryzer)-->QUOTE (veryzer @ Nov 13 2009, 11:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=68871:date=Nov 12 2009, 10:53 PM:name=KBwsb)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KBwsb @ Nov 12 2009, 10:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->It's surprising to me that everyone agrees that Hendry blew it big-time by purposely making Sosa "damaged goods" right before trying to trade him, yet no one will admit that he did the exact same thing with Bradley.

To call him out in the media, and basically say "we hate you and you will never play for us again" when he still has 2 years left on a hefty contract...that's something a 22 year old intern would do, not the GM of a multi-million dollar franchise.

As far as tomveryzer "knowing" that Pie would be a bust? He didn't. He simply made an educated guess, since only about 1 in 10 heralded prospects ever turn out to be real stars. However, a fan <i>could</i> have predicted the future failures of Patterson and Pie by simply looking at their strikeout/walk stats. Neither guy had any kind of plate discipline, and MLB pitchers <i>feast</i> on free-swingers.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->


dude, hendry HAD to do what he did with bradley. there was still a month to go and a very slim chance of playoffs. bradley was disrupting the entire team. he was a distraction DURING THE SEASON. sosa pulled his shit the last day of a lost year. instead of keeping his mouth shut, he buried sosa in the press, making it virtually impossible to get any value for him. big big difference kb.



how was ibanez or abreau or even dunn (and i hate dunn) a bigger crapshoot? even if they underperformed, we knew they would probably stay healthy and not be douchebags. Bradley was clearly the bigger crapshoot.

i'll back off the patterson thing, but not pie. some of us were screaming for hendry to trade pie while he still had some kind of ceiling. hendry waited and got nothing for him.
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Plus, in regards to the Bradly contract, does a lack of decent FA options mean that we need to dole out ridiculous contracts? Suppose Bradly was the only FA capable of playing RF in all of baseball. Does that make him worth $30 mil? Hell, if we could have gotten him for a one year deal or at a bargain, I would've been ok with rolling the dice but I have a hard time believing that there was much other demand for his services. I would've much rather broke spring training with Hoffapaur in RF. It wouldn't have been the end of the world. Then, who knows- with the extra payroll flexibility it might have been the Cubs trading for Holliday.
In short, Hendry = not to blame for the way Bradly was handled at the end of the season. But he was to blame for giving the asshole a 3 year deal in the first place.
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<!--quoteo(post=68892:date=Nov 13 2009, 11:28 AM:name=veryzer)-->QUOTE (veryzer @ Nov 13 2009, 11:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->sosa pulled his shit the last day of a lost year.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I disagree. You think the corking instance had nothing to do with it? Whispers of steroid use? His bigger-than-Lake-Michigan ego? The fact that his teammates hated him and his attitude? His inability to hit the outside corner after getting nailed in the head? You think the only thing that other teams ever judged Sosa on was leaving the last game of the year early paired with Hendry's propaganda?



<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->how was ibanez or abreau or even dunn (and i hate dunn) a <b>bigger</b> crapshoot? even if they underperformed, we knew they would probably stay healthy and not be douchebags. Bradley was clearly the bigger crapshoot.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I never said they were bigger crap shoots. I said Ibanez and Abreu were just as much a risk as Bradley. I think Bradley was the bigger crapshoot, but I also believe he offered a far higher potential reward.

<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->i'll back off the patterson thing, but not pie. some of us were screaming for hendry to trade pie while he still had some kind of ceiling. hendry waited and got nothing for him.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I guess this is just another thing we're not going to see eye to eye on. However, I would like to know what you think about Starlin Castro. He's drummed up enough interest that I have to think you have an opinion on him.
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<!--quoteo(post=68896:date=Nov 13 2009, 11:38 AM:name=Dirk)-->QUOTE (Dirk @ Nov 13 2009, 11:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Plus, in regards to the Bradly contract, does a lack of decent FA options mean that we need to dole out ridiculous contracts? Suppose Bradly was the only FA capable of playing RF in all of baseball. Does that make him worth $30 mil? Hell, if we could have gotten him for a one year deal or at a bargain, I would've been ok with rolling the dice but I have a hard time believing that there was much other demand for his services. I would've much rather broke spring training with Hoffapaur in RF. It wouldn't have been the end of the world. Then, who knows- with the extra payroll flexibility it might have been the Cubs trading for Holliday.
In short, Hendry = not to blame for the way Bradly was handled at the end of the season. But he was to blame for giving the asshole a 3 year deal in the first place.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->


I think people keep forgetting that Hendry did not give Bradley a three year deal. He gave Bradley a two year deal with a vesting option if he played enough games. EVERYBODY here was most worried about Bradley staying healthy. Anyone that says otherwise is fibbing. Hendry took care of that by offering an extremely rare played-games clause in Bradley's contract.

I seem to remember an awful lot of people saying at the beginning of the season that they were willing to put up with Bradley as long as he stayed healthy. I was one of them and I don't want to put up with him anymore. I was wrong. Same as Hendry. Same as all of you. I just find it hypocritical to call out Hendry on his mistake when he had pretty much everyone else's flawed logic.
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<!--quoteo(post=68936:date=Nov 13 2009, 02:31 PM:name=Scarey)-->QUOTE (Scarey @ Nov 13 2009, 02:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=68896:date=Nov 13 2009, 11:38 AM:name=Dirk)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dirk @ Nov 13 2009, 11:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Plus, in regards to the Bradly contract, does a lack of decent FA options mean that we need to dole out ridiculous contracts? Suppose Bradly was the only FA capable of playing RF in all of baseball. Does that make him worth $30 mil? Hell, if we could have gotten him for a one year deal or at a bargain, I would've been ok with rolling the dice but I have a hard time believing that there was much other demand for his services. I would've much rather broke spring training with Hoffapaur in RF. It wouldn't have been the end of the world. Then, who knows- with the extra payroll flexibility it might have been the Cubs trading for Holliday.
In short, Hendry = not to blame for the way Bradly was handled at the end of the season. But he was to blame for giving the asshole a 3 year deal in the first place.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->


I think people keep forgetting that Hendry did not give Bradley a three year deal. He gave Bradley a two year deal with a vesting option if he played enough games. EVERYBODY here was most worried about Bradley staying healthy. Anyone that says otherwise is fibbing. Hendry took care of that by offering an extremely rare played-games clause in Bradley's contract.

I seem to remember an awful lot of people saying at the beginning of the season that they were willing to put up with Bradley as long as he stayed healthy. I was one of them and I don't want to put up with him anymore. I was wrong. Same as Hendry. Same as all of you. I just find it hypocritical to call out Hendry on his mistake when he had pretty much everyone else's flawed logic.
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I don't remember the precise details of the third year option, but I seem to recall it being ridiculously easy to obtain. Appear in 75 games or some such thing?
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<!--quoteo(post=68944:date=Nov 13 2009, 03:01 PM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Nov 13 2009, 03:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=68936:date=Nov 13 2009, 02:31 PM:name=Scarey)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Scarey @ Nov 13 2009, 02:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=68896:date=Nov 13 2009, 11:38 AM:name=Dirk)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dirk @ Nov 13 2009, 11:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Plus, in regards to the Bradly contract, does a lack of decent FA options mean that we need to dole out ridiculous contracts? Suppose Bradly was the only FA capable of playing RF in all of baseball. Does that make him worth $30 mil? Hell, if we could have gotten him for a one year deal or at a bargain, I would've been ok with rolling the dice but I have a hard time believing that there was much other demand for his services. I would've much rather broke spring training with Hoffapaur in RF. It wouldn't have been the end of the world. Then, who knows- with the extra payroll flexibility it might have been the Cubs trading for Holliday.
In short, Hendry = not to blame for the way Bradly was handled at the end of the season. But he was to blame for giving the asshole a 3 year deal in the first place.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->


I think people keep forgetting that Hendry did not give Bradley a three year deal. He gave Bradley a two year deal with a vesting option if he played enough games. EVERYBODY here was most worried about Bradley staying healthy. Anyone that says otherwise is fibbing. Hendry took care of that by offering an extremely rare played-games clause in Bradley's contract.

I seem to remember an awful lot of people saying at the beginning of the season that they were willing to put up with Bradley as long as he stayed healthy. I was one of them and I don't want to put up with him anymore. I was wrong. Same as Hendry. Same as all of you. I just find it hypocritical to call out Hendry on his mistake when he had pretty much everyone else's flawed logic.
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I don't remember the precise details of the third year option, but I seem to recall it being ridiculously easy to obtain. Appear in 75 games or some such thing?
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Bingo. 75 games played. He essentially gave him a 3 year deal.
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<!--quoteo(post=68962:date=Nov 13 2009, 04:44 PM:name=PcB)-->QUOTE (PcB @ Nov 13 2009, 04:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=68944:date=Nov 13 2009, 03:01 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Nov 13 2009, 03:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=68936:date=Nov 13 2009, 02:31 PM:name=Scarey)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Scarey @ Nov 13 2009, 02:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=68896:date=Nov 13 2009, 11:38 AM:name=Dirk)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dirk @ Nov 13 2009, 11:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Plus, in regards to the Bradly contract, does a lack of decent FA options mean that we need to dole out ridiculous contracts? Suppose Bradly was the only FA capable of playing RF in all of baseball. Does that make him worth $30 mil? Hell, if we could have gotten him for a one year deal or at a bargain, I would've been ok with rolling the dice but I have a hard time believing that there was much other demand for his services. I would've much rather broke spring training with Hoffapaur in RF. It wouldn't have been the end of the world. Then, who knows- with the extra payroll flexibility it might have been the Cubs trading for Holliday.
In short, Hendry = not to blame for the way Bradly was handled at the end of the season. But he was to blame for giving the asshole a 3 year deal in the first place.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->


I think people keep forgetting that Hendry did not give Bradley a three year deal. He gave Bradley a two year deal with a vesting option if he played enough games. EVERYBODY here was most worried about Bradley staying healthy. Anyone that says otherwise is fibbing. Hendry took care of that by offering an extremely rare played-games clause in Bradley's contract.

I seem to remember an awful lot of people saying at the beginning of the season that they were willing to put up with Bradley as long as he stayed healthy. I was one of them and I don't want to put up with him anymore. I was wrong. Same as Hendry. Same as all of you. I just find it hypocritical to call out Hendry on his mistake when he had pretty much everyone else's flawed logic.
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I don't remember the precise details of the third year option, but I seem to recall it being ridiculously easy to obtain. Appear in 75 games or some such thing?
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Bingo. 75 games played. He essentially gave him a 3 year deal.
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Hendry was so damn worried about him being healthy that he allowed for him to miss basically half the season and still have the 3rd year kick in? C'mon, it was a three year deal. If they wanted it to be 2 years with a vesting option, Bradly should've had to have come close to his career high in games or ABs.
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<!--quoteo(post=68934:date=Nov 13 2009, 02:25 PM:name=Scarey)-->QUOTE (Scarey @ Nov 13 2009, 02:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=68892:date=Nov 13 2009, 11:28 AM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Nov 13 2009, 11:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->sosa pulled his shit the last day of a lost year.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I disagree. You think the corking instance had nothing to do with it? Whispers of steroid use? His bigger-than-Lake-Michigan ego? The fact that his teammates hated him and his attitude? His inability to hit the outside corner after getting nailed in the head? You think the only thing that other teams ever judged Sosa on was leaving the last game of the year early paired with Hendry's propaganda?



<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->how was ibanez or abreau or even dunn (and i hate dunn) a <b>bigger</b> crapshoot? even if they underperformed, we knew they would probably stay healthy and not be douchebags. Bradley was clearly the bigger crapshoot.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I never said they were bigger crap shoots. I said Ibanez and Abreu were just as much a risk as Bradley. I think Bradley was the bigger crapshoot, but I also believe he offered a far higher potential reward.

<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->i'll back off the patterson thing, but not pie. some of us were screaming for hendry to trade pie while he still had some kind of ceiling. hendry waited and got nothing for him.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I guess this is just another thing we're not going to see eye to eye on. However, I would like to know what you think about Starlin Castro. He's drummed up enough interest that I have to think you have an opinion on him.
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i don't know shit about starlin castro. and no, i don't think the ego or the cork had aanything to do with sosa. had he not bailed on the last day of the season, he wouldn't have been traded. and sosa wasn't bashing the cubs in the press, fighting with hitting coaches, taking himself out of games (except for thelast one). sosa played hard until that last day. hendry fucked that whole thing up.
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