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<!--quoteo(post=66354:date=Oct 14 2009, 11:16 AM:name=rok)-->QUOTE (rok @ Oct 14 2009, 11:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=66352:date=Oct 14 2009, 10:12 AM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Oct 14 2009, 10:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->So is the Jaramillo rumor, if it pans out...preparation for having Bradley on the roster in 2010?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The article was written by Rogers. I doubt the rumor holds any water.
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I could get behind that option.
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<!--quoteo(post=66362:date=Oct 14 2009, 12:40 PM:name=Coach)-->QUOTE (Coach @ Oct 14 2009, 12:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=66354:date=Oct 14 2009, 11:16 AM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Oct 14 2009, 11:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=66352:date=Oct 14 2009, 10:12 AM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Oct 14 2009, 10:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->So is the Jaramillo rumor, if it pans out...preparation for having Bradley on the roster in 2010?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The article was written by Rogers. I doubt the rumor holds any water.
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I could get behind that option.
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I definitely could too (though I still wouldn't want Bradley back), but it would be hard to imagine Jaramillo coming on board when Lou is only around for one more season. It sounds as though he's pretty happy in Texas, and wouldn't have much job security here.
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<!--quoteo(post=66365:date=Oct 14 2009, 12:49 PM:name=rok)-->QUOTE (rok @ Oct 14 2009, 12:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=66362:date=Oct 14 2009, 12:40 PM:name=Coach)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Coach @ Oct 14 2009, 12:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=66354:date=Oct 14 2009, 11:16 AM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Oct 14 2009, 11:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=66352:date=Oct 14 2009, 10:12 AM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Oct 14 2009, 10:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->So is the Jaramillo rumor, if it pans out...preparation for having Bradley on the roster in 2010?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The article was written by Rogers. I doubt the rumor holds any water.
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I could get behind that option.
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I definitely could too (though I still wouldn't want Bradley back), but it would be hard to imagine Jaramillo coming on board when Lou is only around for one more season. It sounds as though he's pretty happy in Texas, and wouldn't have much job security here.
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Jaramillo isn't going back to the Rangers, so that part won't be an issue.
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Correct Giff:
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->SI_JonHeyman hitting coach rudy jaramillio declined the #rangers offer to stay. thats a loss. mike maddux, other coaches are staying.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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Well, I guess we'll see what happens, but it would be odd to see us offer anyone more than a one year deal to be the hitting coach when the rest of the staff is in doubt past 2010. It just would seem that other teams could offer him greater job security, but don't get me wrong I'd love to have him.
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Why would it be odd? Didn't we do the same thing with Rothschild?
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Why would it be odd? Didn't we do the same thing with Rothschild?
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That situation was different because we already had a history with Rothschild. I'm not sure how common it is for a hitting coach to be signed long-term while the rest of the staff, including the manager are expected to be gone after one season. Maybe Jaramillo will take a 1 year deal, who knows.
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From Rosenthal today:
Multiple suitors for Bradley
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The Cubs remain confident that they can trade Bradley without assuming the vast majority of the $21 million remaining on his contract over the next two years.
New owner Tom Ricketts has set a limit for how much money the Cubs will include in a deal, one source says. The Cubs can take back a contract but pay only a fixed amount of cash.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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Multiple suitors for Bradley
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The Cubs remain confident that they can trade Bradley without assuming the vast majority of the $21 million remaining on his contract over the next two years.
New owner Tom Ricketts has set a limit for how much money the Cubs will include in a deal, one source says. The Cubs can take back a contract but pay only a fixed amount of cash.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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Shocked indeed.
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I wouldn't be surprised at all to hear of teams interested. Put in the #2 spot in a NL lineup or 6-7 in the AL, he's going to be a great hitter. Yes, he has his issues and has pretty much run himself out of Chicago, but the guy is still a good hitter. His power numbers aren't great, but when you get on base at a .378 clip, you're doing something right. He was just a huge scapegoat for Cubs fans this year.
I don't think we'll run into an issue with interest, but with what we get in return. Every owner knows that Bradley can't stay in Chicago. So they know they can low-ball Hendry. So we'll see what we get out of this. Hopefully Hendry can create a bit of a bidding war between teams with more articles like this.
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I think we'll be pleasantly surprised with what we can get for him, and it's good to see Ricketts take an active role already in executive decisions.
That said, I just hope we don't end up with some glorified banch player in return for Bradley if we aren't planning on taking on more salary.
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<!--quoteo(post=67005:date=Oct 22 2009, 12:27 PM:name=Andy)-->QUOTE (Andy @ Oct 22 2009, 12:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I wouldn't be surprised at all to hear of teams interested. Put in the #2 spot in a NL lineup or 6-7 in the AL, he's going to be a great hitter. Yes, he has his issues and has pretty much run himself out of Chicago, but the guy is still a good hitter. His power numbers aren't great, but when you get on base at a .378 clip, you're doing something right. He was just a huge scapegoat for Cubs fans this year.
I don't think we'll run into an issue with interest, but with what we get in return. Every owner knows that Bradley can't stay in Chicago. So they know they can low-ball Hendry. So we'll see what we get out of this. Hopefully Hendry can create a bit of a bidding war between teams with more articles like this.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
i agree with everything you said except for cub fans aking him a scapegoat. would we have had made the playoffs if he played better? probably not, but he was certainly one of the major reasons why.
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I really wanted to like Bradley. I wanted so badly for him to exorcise his demons with the Cubs... I think most Cubs fans were ready to embrace him as well. I swear, if he made more of an effort to connect with the fans, his mediocre season would have been forgiven. But first we was pretty standoffish with the fans, and then he turned on them. Is it any surprise that things got ugly?
I'm still on board with Bradley for Burrell. Let's make it happen.
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<!--quoteo(post=67007:date=Oct 22 2009, 12:43 PM:name=veryzer)-->QUOTE (veryzer @ Oct 22 2009, 12:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=67005:date=Oct 22 2009, 12:27 PM:name=Andy)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Andy @ Oct 22 2009, 12:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I wouldn't be surprised at all to hear of teams interested. Put in the #2 spot in a NL lineup or 6-7 in the AL, he's going to be a great hitter. Yes, he has his issues and has pretty much run himself out of Chicago, but the guy is still a good hitter. His power numbers aren't great, but when you get on base at a .378 clip, you're doing something right. He was just a huge scapegoat for Cubs fans this year.
I don't think we'll run into an issue with interest, but with what we get in return. Every owner knows that Bradley can't stay in Chicago. So they know they can low-ball Hendry. So we'll see what we get out of this. Hopefully Hendry can create a bit of a bidding war between teams with more articles like this.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
i agree with everything you said except for cub fans aking him a scapegoat. would we have had made the playoffs if he played better? probably not, but he was certainly one of the major reasons why.
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I would agree that he was one of many pieces of the puzzle. I do think he was a media mark as a symbol of the 2009 Cubs. Soriano, Soto, 2B, Ramirez's injury, Bradley's slow start and the inconsistency of the bullpen were the reason's for a .500 club.
Bradley certainly did nothing to endear himself to Cubs fans and quickly felt the wrath of that mistake. I agree with Butcher that most people were willing to give him a chance, but not every player that comes in is going to step forward and give love to the fans. I think fans need to understand not every player is going to come in and love the fans and players need to understand that doing and saying simple things can very quickly have the fans embrace you or hate you.
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Not surprised that teams would show interest in Bradley, as long as Cubs are willing to pay the vast majority of the remaining 2 years on the contract. Have a feeling that the teams interested drops off tremendously if the Cubs aren't willing to eat over $12 MM of the deal.
Bradley can be a fine hitter in the No 2 hole. Unfortunately, the Cubs were expecting to use him as a 4,5 hitter. Bradley is just not a RBI guy. Hendry should have realized that he didn't have a fit. The situation became worse when Soto became lost at the plate plus Soriano and Aramis injuries. It sad as all Bradley was expected to do was replace Jim Edmonds' (around 50 - 60 RBIs) production but that was last year.
Bradley needs to be gone and hopefully the Cubs can find a guy who can be expected to drive in 70 + RBIs.
The big questions are: A) how much salary will the Cubs eat on the contract?; and, [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cool.gif[/img] who will the Cubs get for run production?. Both questions are related as the less the Cubs have to pay to rid themselves of Bradley, the better chance of gong into the free agent pool or have to eat another team's bad contract.
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