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<!--quoteo(post=49597:date=Jul 13 2009, 12:09 PM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Jul 13 2009, 12:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->His double to the wall last night was pretty. And he continues to take BB like crazy.
If he can continue to draw walks, see lots of pitches and hit for some power, I'll be extremely pleased with Bradley. I just haven't seen much power yet.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Didn't you just love how Morgan and Miller kept talking about Bradleys BB's like they're a problem?
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<!--quoteo(post=49615:date=Jul 13 2009, 02:51 PM:name=jstraw)-->QUOTE (jstraw @ Jul 13 2009, 02:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=49597:date=Jul 13 2009, 12:09 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Jul 13 2009, 12:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->His double to the wall last night was pretty. And he continues to take BB like crazy.
If he can continue to draw walks, see lots of pitches and hit for some power, I'll be extremely pleased with Bradley. I just haven't seen much power yet.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Didn't you just love how Morgan and Miller kept talking about Bradleys BB's like they're a problem?
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I believe Morgan pretty much said that Bradley should not look happy when he takes a walk.
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<!--quoteo(post=49615:date=Jul 13 2009, 01:51 PM:name=jstraw)-->QUOTE (jstraw @ Jul 13 2009, 01:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=49597:date=Jul 13 2009, 12:09 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Jul 13 2009, 12:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->His double to the wall last night was pretty. And he continues to take BB like crazy.
If he can continue to draw walks, see lots of pitches and hit for some power, I'll be extremely pleased with Bradley. I just haven't seen much power yet.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Didn't you just love how Morgan and Miller kept talking about Bradleys BB's like they're a problem?
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I don't think they were entirely wrong though. When a clean up hitter goes to the plate looking for a walk, rather than intending to drive in runs, he's in the wrong spot in the order. A walk is great, but it depends greatly where you are in the order. If there is a runner on 2nd and Fontenot or Baker or Soriano is following you in the order, I'd rather have Bradley hit the ball. If he's hitting 1st or 2nd with DLee or ARam following him, I'll take the walk.
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that's why if bradley is indeed back, he should be hitting in the upper third of the order, ahead of lee and ramirez.
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<!--quoteo(post=49629:date=Jul 13 2009, 02:27 PM:name=veryzer)-->QUOTE (veryzer @ Jul 13 2009, 02:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->that's why if bradley is indeed back, he should be hitting in the upper third of the order, ahead of lee and ramirez.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I've believed for a few weeks now that he should be hitting 2nd. He'll still get a few RBI opportunities here and there, but otherwise it would be nice to have him on base before Lee and ARam. And when ARam starts hitting for power again, he should bat cleanup, but for now #5 is ok too.
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Yeah, I think we might be forcing Bradley to be the run producer than he is not.
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For as much as people were hand wringing about Bradley being fragile, he's only missed like 10-12 games this year.
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<!--quoteo(post=49623:date=Jul 13 2009, 02:16 PM:name=Andy)-->QUOTE (Andy @ Jul 13 2009, 02:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I don't think they were entirely wrong though. When a clean up hitter goes to the plate looking for a walk, rather than intending to drive in runs, he's in the wrong spot in the order. A walk is great, but it depends greatly where you are in the order. If there is a runner on 2nd and Fontenot or Baker or Soriano is following you in the order, I'd rather have Bradley hit the ball. If he's hitting 1st or 2nd with DLee or ARam following him, I'll take the walk.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Agreed. I really like Bradley in the 2 or 5 hole. My lineup would most likely be
1. Theriot - SS
2. Bradley - RF
3. Lee - 1B
4. Ram - 3B
5. Soriano - LF
6. Fukudome - CF
7. Soto - C
8. Whoever is playing 2nd that day
9. Pitcher
or
1. Theriot - SS
2. Soriano - LF (I like the protection that Lee offers here where as Sori will get a ton of fastballs)
3. Lee - 1B
4. Ramirez - 3B
5. Bradley - RF
6. Soto - C
7. Fukudome - CF
8. Whoever is playing 2nd that day
9. Pitcher
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Soriano would not see anymore fastballs by hitting in front of Lee. Hell if that was the case he would of saw a ton of them in the leadoff spot. Pitchers know they can throw junk at him because he can't lay off of it. They don't have to throw him strikes to get him out.
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<!--quoteo(post=49723:date=Jul 13 2009, 08:53 PM:name=stevestonescigar)-->QUOTE (stevestonescigar @ Jul 13 2009, 08:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Soriano would not see anymore fastballs by hitting in front of Lee. Hell if that was the case he would of saw a ton of them in the leadoff spot. Pitchers know they can throw junk at him because he can't lay off of it. They don't have to throw him strikes to get him out.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
That is correct until they get behind in the count. Everyone has figured out that Soriano is a one demensional hitter but the bottom line is the guy can flat out hit a ton when it comes to fastballs. I have little doubt that he would see more fastballs hitting in front of Lee anytime Soriano was ahead in the count and at worst he'd see first pitch fastballs more often. That's just my take on it.
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<!--quoteo(post=49724:date=Jul 13 2009, 08:56 PM:name=HemisFear)-->QUOTE (HemisFear @ Jul 13 2009, 08:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=49723:date=Jul 13 2009, 08:53 PM:name=stevestonescigar)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (stevestonescigar @ Jul 13 2009, 08:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Soriano would not see anymore fastballs by hitting in front of Lee. Hell if that was the case he would of saw a ton of them in the leadoff spot. Pitchers know they can throw junk at him because he can't lay off of it. They don't have to throw him strikes to get him out.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
That is correct until they get behind in the count. Everyone has figured out that Soriano is a one demensional hitter but the bottom line is the guy can flat out hit a ton when it comes to fastballs. I have little doubt that he would see more fastballs hitting in front of Lee anytime Soriano was ahead in the count and at worst he'd see first pitch fastballs more often. That's just my take on it.
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When you don't have to throw a fastball or at least a fastball for a strike to get him out you are not going to. He wouldn't see anymore fastballs hitting second than he did when hit first.
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I have a hard time believing teams have "figured out" Soriano. If it has taken teams 9 years to figure him out, baseball needs new scouts. It is entirely possible he is just going to have a down year or is in a long, long slump.
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<!--quoteo(post=49732:date=Jul 13 2009, 10:42 PM:name=CFOrfan)-->QUOTE (CFOrfan @ Jul 13 2009, 10:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I have a hard time believing teams have "figured out" Soriano. If it has taken teams 9 years to figure him out, baseball needs new scouts. It is entirely possible he is just going to have a down year or is in a long, long slump.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It's quite simple really. Soriano is aging and his bat speed has slowed. He needs to stop swining that telephone pole he uses and get a lighter bat.
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It's quite simple really. Soriano is aging and his bat speed has slowed. He needs to stop swining that telephone pole he uses and get a lighter bat.
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Or his bat is so slow because he's still hurt. You don't just have bat speed on May 17th and lose it on May 19th.
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Soriano's bat isn't slow, his legs are. Watch his front foot, that's been the problem. The rest of his body is getting ahead of his stride and his timing is off, his upper and lower body are not in sync (same thing was happening to Bradley until recently). His knee is causing this, not is bat speed.
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