What's the most constructive thing the Cubs can do with the remainder of this season?

[Fella]

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Yes on the arbitration clock, but its not gonna make much of a difference, a player must spend 516 days on an active roster during the regular season, to qualify for arbitration, so anyone up for the first time will still definitely need 3 more years, and that's only if they spend the entire next 3 full years on the 25 man.

For option years, it just matters if they are on the 40 man roster or not. Everyone on the 40 man roster, that is currently in the minors, is using an option year right now anyway.

For any new players on the 40 man, if we purchase their contract and put them right on the roster I don't believe it uses an option year as long as they never go back down to the minors in 09. But they would have to remain on the 40 man roster for next year, which would count as their first option year.

Players with limited MLB experience are given an additional option year though.

[Andy]

<!--quoteo(post=58815:date=Aug 19 2009, 12:55 PM:name=Fella)-->QUOTE (Fella @ Aug 19 2009, 12:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=58805:date=Aug 19 2009, 10:53 AM:name=Scarey)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Scarey @ Aug 19 2009, 10:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->If you bring up a player when rosters expand, does that use up an option year on them? And does it start their clock to arbitration?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Yes on the arbitration clock, but its not gonna make much of a difference, a player must spend 516 days on an active roster during the regular season, to qualify for arbitration, so anyone up for the first time will still definitely need 3 more years, and that's only if they spend the entire next 3 full years on the 25 man.

For option years, it just matters if they are on the 40 man roster or not. Everyone on the 40 man roster, that is currently in the minors, is using an option year right now anyway.

For any new players on the 40 man, if we purchase their contract and put them right on the roster I don't believe it uses an option year as long as they never go back down to the minors in 09. But they would have to remain on the 40 man roster for next year, which would count as their first option year.

Players with limited MLB experience are given an additional option year though.

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Not that this has anything to do with the Cubs, but I'm wondering how JJ Hardy still had options left.

2005 - 124 games played
2006 - 35
2007 - 151
2008 - 146
2009 - 102 until he was optioned to AAA.

[ruby23]

<!--quoteo(post=58848:date=Aug 19 2009, 02:29 PM:name=Andy)-->QUOTE (Andy @ Aug 19 2009, 02:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=58815:date=Aug 19 2009, 12:55 PM:name=Fella)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Fella @ Aug 19 2009, 12:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=58805:date=Aug 19 2009, 10:53 AM:name=Scarey)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Scarey @ Aug 19 2009, 10:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->If you bring up a player when rosters expand, does that use up an option year on them? And does it start their clock to arbitration?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Yes on the arbitration clock, but its not gonna make much of a difference, a player must spend 516 days on an active roster during the regular season, to qualify for arbitration, so anyone up for the first time will still definitely need 3 more years, and that's only if they spend the entire next 3 full years on the 25 man.

For option years, it just matters if they are on the 40 man roster or not. Everyone on the 40 man roster, that is currently in the minors, is using an option year right now anyway.

For any new players on the 40 man, if we purchase their contract and put them right on the roster I don't believe it uses an option year as long as they never go back down to the minors in 09. But they would have to remain on the 40 man roster for next year, which would count as their first option year.

Players with limited MLB experience are given an additional option year though.

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Not that this has anything to do with the Cubs, but I'm wondering how JJ Hardy still had options left.

2005 - 124 games played
2006 - 35
2007 - 151
2008 - 146
2009 - 102 until he was optioned to AAA.
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Looks like what we did with patterson a few years back.

[Ace]

<!--quoteo(post=58878:date=Aug 19 2009, 04:43 PM:name=ruby23)-->QUOTE (ruby23 @ Aug 19 2009, 04:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=58848:date=Aug 19 2009, 02:29 PM:name=Andy)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Andy @ Aug 19 2009, 02:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=58815:date=Aug 19 2009, 12:55 PM:name=Fella)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Fella @ Aug 19 2009, 12:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=58805:date=Aug 19 2009, 10:53 AM:name=Scarey)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Scarey @ Aug 19 2009, 10:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->If you bring up a player when rosters expand, does that use up an option year on them? And does it start their clock to arbitration?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Yes on the arbitration clock, but its not gonna make much of a difference, a player must spend 516 days on an active roster during the regular season, to qualify for arbitration, so anyone up for the first time will still definitely need 3 more years, and that's only if they spend the entire next 3 full years on the 25 man.

For option years, it just matters if they are on the 40 man roster or not. Everyone on the 40 man roster, that is currently in the minors, is using an option year right now anyway.

For any new players on the 40 man, if we purchase their contract and put them right on the roster I don't believe it uses an option year as long as they never go back down to the minors in 09. But they would have to remain on the 40 man roster for next year, which would count as their first option year.

Players with limited MLB experience are given an additional option year though.

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Not that this has anything to do with the Cubs, but I'm wondering how JJ Hardy still had options left.

2005 - 124 games played
2006 - 35
2007 - 151
2008 - 146
2009 - 102 until he was optioned to AAA.
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Looks like what we did with patterson a few years back.
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For a couple of those years he was on the 25-man the whole year. Thus, no option year used up.