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<!--quoteo(post=64641:date=Sep 29 2009, 10:19 AM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Sep 29 2009, 10:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=64640:date=Sep 29 2009, 10:17 AM:name=Coach)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Coach @ Sep 29 2009, 10:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Leading the league in walk-off losses also hurts.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It absolutely kills. Those losses were emotionally backbreaking. Kevin Gregg was a disaster.
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He still is a disaster.
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RIP Sarge
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<!--quoteo(post=64646:date=Sep 29 2009, 10:25 AM:name=Jody)-->QUOTE (Jody @ Sep 29 2009, 10:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=64641:date=Sep 29 2009, 10:19 AM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Sep 29 2009, 10:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=64640:date=Sep 29 2009, 10:17 AM:name=Coach)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Coach @ Sep 29 2009, 10:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Leading the league in walk-off losses also hurts.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It absolutely kills. Those losses were emotionally backbreaking. Kevin Gregg was a disaster.
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He still is a disaster.
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I only speak of Gregg in the past tense.
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Another thing that would have helped: Soto showing up in shape and hitting.
I don't know if his fitness would have kept him off the DL earlier in the year but it wouldn't have hurt this team.
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<!--quoteo(post=64635:date=Sep 29 2009, 10:11 AM:name=1060Ivy)-->QUOTE (1060Ivy @ Sep 29 2009, 10:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=64631:date=Sep 29 2009, 10:06 AM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Sep 29 2009, 10:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->None of this matters to me. The past month tells me nothing aside from the fact that we can beat crappy teams.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Remember the shitty teams that the Cubs beat in 2008. The schedule in 2008 had us play some more bad teams - Pirates, Nats, etc - in the first half of the year than the second half. The Cubs had momentum heading into the second half of the season and lead to us trading for Harden.
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We were able to beat quality teams in 2008 though. Not so this season. Not even close.
That said, I'm actually a little impressed that we've remained over .500 throughout all this.
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Not only did Aramis miss all those games, but he also hasn't been 100% since he's been back. So I think we would've won at least 3-4 games, but most likely more than that.
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I think we'd be in the playoffs without the Aram injury, yes.
I think there were things that have gotten us in in spite of it though. They've all been mentioned.
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It's really difficult to give much of a shit about what this team has done lately, especially since it's been mostly against mediocre to bad teams. It's been over for weeks and a decent run down the stretch doesn't change the fact that they completely shit the bed when it mattered.
As far as Aramis goes - sure it hurt but I still don't think this team sniffs the playoffs even if he's healthy all year.
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<!--quoteo(post=64661:date=Sep 29 2009, 12:39 PM:name=Brock)-->QUOTE (Brock @ Sep 29 2009, 12:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->It's really difficult to give much of a shit about what this team has done lately, especially since it's been mostly against mediocre to bad teams. It's been over for weeks and a decent run down the stretch doesn't change the fact that they completely shit the bed when it mattered.
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Wouldn't even sniff the playoffs? Seriously? It's September 29th and we haven't been eliminated yet (I know -- one Rockies win or one Cubs loss and we're done). But still -- if a healthy Aramis gives us 4 more wins, then that alone puts us 2.5 behind the Rockies and 4.5 behind the Cardinals.
That's sniffing the playoffs.
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<!--quoteo(post=64664:date=Sep 29 2009, 12:53 PM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Sep 29 2009, 12:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=64661:date=Sep 29 2009, 12:39 PM:name=Brock)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brock @ Sep 29 2009, 12:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->It's really difficult to give much of a shit about what this team has done lately, especially since it's been mostly against mediocre to bad teams. It's been over for weeks and a decent run down the stretch doesn't change the fact that they completely shit the bed when it mattered.
As far as Aramis goes - sure it hurt but I still don't think this team sniffs the playoffs even if he's healthy all year.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Wouldn't even sniff the playoffs? Seriously? It's September 29th and we haven't been eliminated yet (I know -- one Rockies win or one Cubs loss and we're done). But still -- if a healthy Aramis gives us 4 more wins, then that alone puts us 2.5 behind the Rockies and 4.5 behind the Cardinals.
That's sniffing the playoffs.
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Not to mention if a few of those extra victories would have come against the Rox or Cards, that gap would have been narrowed even further.
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<!--quoteo(post=64664:date=Sep 29 2009, 12:53 PM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Sep 29 2009, 12:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=64661:date=Sep 29 2009, 12:39 PM:name=Brock)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brock @ Sep 29 2009, 12:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->It's really difficult to give much of a shit about what this team has done lately, especially since it's been mostly against mediocre to bad teams. It's been over for weeks and a decent run down the stretch doesn't change the fact that they completely shit the bed when it mattered.
As far as Aramis goes - sure it hurt but I still don't think this team sniffs the playoffs even if he's healthy all year.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Wouldn't even sniff the playoffs? Seriously? It's September 29th and we haven't been eliminated yet (I know -- one Rockies win or one Cubs loss and we're done). But still -- if a healthy Aramis gives us 4 more wins, then that alone puts us 2.5 behind the Rockies and 4.5 behind the Cardinals.
That's sniffing the playoffs.
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We've been essentially eliminated for over a month now.
But yeah, probably not the correct choice of words there. I don't think this team <i>makes</i> the playoffs even with Aram healthy. And I think 4 wins is a stretch.
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<!--quoteo(post=64666:date=Sep 29 2009, 01:13 PM:name=Brock)-->QUOTE (Brock @ Sep 29 2009, 01:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=64664:date=Sep 29 2009, 12:53 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Sep 29 2009, 12:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=64661:date=Sep 29 2009, 12:39 PM:name=Brock)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brock @ Sep 29 2009, 12:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->It's really difficult to give much of a shit about what this team has done lately, especially since it's been mostly against mediocre to bad teams. It's been over for weeks and a decent run down the stretch doesn't change the fact that they completely shit the bed when it mattered.
As far as Aramis goes - sure it hurt but I still don't think this team sniffs the playoffs even if he's healthy all year.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Wouldn't even sniff the playoffs? Seriously? It's September 29th and we haven't been eliminated yet (I know -- one Rockies win or one Cubs loss and we're done). But still -- if a healthy Aramis gives us 4 more wins, then that alone puts us 2.5 behind the Rockies and 4.5 behind the Cardinals.
That's sniffing the playoffs.
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We've been essentially eliminated for over a month now.
But yeah, probably not the correct choice of words there. I don't think this team <i>makes</i> the playoffs even with Aram healthy. And I think 4 wins is a stretch.
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I think a healthy Ramirez gets this team into the playoffs. A healthy Ramirez fixes the 3B problem, helps the 2B problem, makes the lineup infinitely more potent, and probably turns a bunch of those quality starts that ended in L's into W's. The Cubs are 16-22 in one run games, if Ramirez plays all year, I think you can probably flip those numbers. If Ramirez plays 140 games this year, I'd be willing to bet the Cubs make the playoffs.
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You guys do agree that Soriano sucking balls all year was much more damaging than missing Aram for a stretch, though, right?
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My gut says that's a tough one. I'd like someone to suggest a way to measure it. I should ask Rob Neyer or Bill James.
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What's it do for our season if each played all year and put up their literal average numbers?
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Playoffs, methinks. At least the Wild Card.
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