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<!--quoteo(post=66257:date=Oct 12 2009, 04:42 PM:name=KBwsb)-->QUOTE (KBwsb @ Oct 12 2009, 04:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->What's interesting is that last year was nowhere near Hendry's worst off-season performance.
It's just one of many.
He has <i>complete</i> job security. He could murder Ernie Banks in cold blood at midfield during a Cub game, and people would just say, "Well back when NSYNC was still hot, he made a coupla good trades. No need to fire him. Stay the course."<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
What an about face. You're kind of an all-in or all-out guy, aren't ya?
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It's just one of many.
He has <i>complete</i> job security. He could murder Ernie Banks in cold blood at midfield during a Cub game, and people would just say, "Well back when NSYNC was still hot, he made a coupla good trades. No need to fire him. Stay the course."<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Exactly. He has all this job security, and yet every OTHER GM the Cubs have had who made the playoffs 50 percent of the time, put together a team that nearly won 100 games within the last 12.5 months and was over .500 for three consecutive years was IMMEDIATELY fired when they dropped to only 5 games over .500. What a double standard!
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<!--quoteo(post=66274:date=Oct 12 2009, 06:46 PM:name=BT)-->QUOTE (BT @ Oct 12 2009, 06:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=66257:date=Oct 12 2009, 04:42 PM:name=KBwsb)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KBwsb @ Oct 12 2009, 04:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->What's interesting is that last year was nowhere near Hendry's worst off-season performance.
It's just one of many.
He has <i>complete</i> job security. He could murder Ernie Banks in cold blood at midfield during a Cub game, and people would just say, "Well back when NSYNC was still hot, he made a coupla good trades. No need to fire him. Stay the course."<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Exactly. He has all this job security, and yet every OTHER GM the Cubs have had who made the playoffs 50 percent of the time, put together a team that nearly won 100 games within the last 12.5 months and was over .500 for three consecutive years was IMMEDIATELY fired when they dropped to only 5 games over .500. What a double standard!
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Not only should he be fired, but he should be publicly beaten, humiliated, forced to watch his ex-wife have sex with multiple partners, be audited by the IRS, neutered, tarred and feathered, fed dry sand, and then sent to a Turkish prison to live out the remainder of his sad, embarrassing life.
Also, he should be banned for life from baseball just in case he manages to escape and re-enter the US some day.
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If Desipio is a source, then I'm a Proctologist for sticking my finger up my ass.
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he also traded Marquis for someone that they cut.
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<!--quoteo(post=66284:date=Oct 12 2009, 09:06 PM:name=Mikey)-->QUOTE (Mikey @ Oct 12 2009, 09:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->he also traded Marquis for someone that they cut.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yet another of my favorite catch 22's. Hendry is somehow a douchebag for signing Marquis AND a douchebag for trading him away.
(By the way Mikey, I don't think Hendry traded Marquis so he could get his mitts on Luis Vizcaino. I think he traded him for the 5 million in salary they saved)
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Hendry ended up trading:
Wuertz, Pie, Cedeno & Hill. Unless Heilman resigns with the Cubs, we'll have Hank Williamson (IA fodder) and a yet unnamed player to show for it.
I got nothin'.
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<!--quoteo(post=66288:date=Oct 12 2009, 09:18 PM:name=Andy)-->QUOTE (Andy @ Oct 12 2009, 09:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Hendry ended up trading:
Wuertz, Pie, Cedeno & Hill. Unless Heilman resigns with the Cubs, we'll have Hank Williamson (IA fodder) and a yet unnamed player to show for it.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
absolutely true. And if he hadn't traded them, they would have all been cut, as (I'm fairly certain)they were out of options and had no place on the roster. Furthermore, I don't think you guys can argue that any of them, with the possible exception of Wuertz, deserved a spot on the roster.
And which of these guys was Hendry SUPPOSED to get anything more than a bucket of snot back for? Again, I'll concede Wuertz (although the market for 29 year olds with a nearly 1.5 whip probably isn't as huge as some of you guys seem to think), but what would you give up for a guy who walked 18 batters in 19 innings (who was a catastrophe this year, by the way). Or do we get the kings ransom for the shortstop with the .593 OPS this year? Pie got us a decent return, but Heilman blew up (as middle relievers tend to do).
I'm not saying Hendry did great, but you have to give up something to get something, and we didn't give up a whole lot in those deals.
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Sign him for life. Stay the course.
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i don't hate hendry like kb does, because truth be told, hendry has done some good things for us. having said that, he had a real bad year last year. and the back to back playoffs are nice and all, but given the kind of payroll he was handed, two first round sweeps just isn't good enough. it's time for a new direction. he tried hard and he failed.
i'm all for cleaning house. we have a long ways to go before 200 years is up.
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I don't think anyone is advocating keeping Hendry on forever, and no one is saying that he hasn't made some boneheaded mistakes, some even potentially disastrous ones. At the same time, I'd be shocked if Ricketts kept him around past 2010 if we have another sub-par season.
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<!--quoteo(post=66292:date=Oct 13 2009, 01:20 AM:name=KBwsb)-->QUOTE (KBwsb @ Oct 13 2009, 01:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Sign him for life. Stay the course.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Right. Because if you don't think that Hendry is too stupid to pull his pants down when he shits, the only logical option left is to sign him for life. It's a completely binary decision.
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Answer Ruby's question, KB.
If Angelo had picked McClellin, I would have been expecting to hear by training camp that kid has stage 4 cancer, is actually 5'2" 142 lbs, is a chick who played in a 7 - 0 defensive scheme who only rotated in on downs which were 3 and 34 yds + so is not expecting to play a down in the NFL until the sex change is complete and she puts on another 100 lbs. + but this is Emery's first pick so he'll get a pass with a bit of questioning. - 1060Ivy
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<!--quoteo(post=66289:date=Oct 12 2009, 08:38 PM:name=BT)-->QUOTE (BT @ Oct 12 2009, 08:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=66288:date=Oct 12 2009, 09:18 PM:name=Andy)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Andy @ Oct 12 2009, 09:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Hendry ended up trading:
Wuertz, Pie, Cedeno & Hill. Unless Heilman resigns with the Cubs, we'll have Hank Williamson (IA fodder) and a yet unnamed player to show for it.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
absolutely true. And if he hadn't traded them, they would have all been cut, as (I'm fairly certain)they were out of options and had no place on the roster. Furthermore, I don't think you guys can argue that any of them, with the possible exception of Wuertz, deserved a spot on the roster.
And which of these guys was Hendry SUPPOSED to get anything more than a bucket of snot back for? Again, I'll concede Wuertz (although the market for 29 year olds with a nearly 1.5 whip probably isn't as huge as some of you guys seem to think), but what would you give up for a guy who walked 18 batters in 19 innings (who was a catastrophe this year, by the way). Or do we get the kings ransom for the shortstop with the .593 OPS this year? Pie got us a decent return, but Heilman blew up (as middle relievers tend to do).
I'm not saying Hendry did great, but you have to give up something to get something, and we didn't give up a whole lot in those deals.
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We could always bash Hendry for not trading Pie and Hill when they would have got something like Soriano.
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