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[Butcher]

TOM VERYZER!

[jstraw]

Hi there, Tommy.

[Coach]

<!--quoteo(post=83197:date=Mar 18 2010, 11:38 AM:name=veryzer)-->QUOTE (veryzer @ Mar 18 2010, 11:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->For what it's worth, a jumbotron is not only necessary, it's way way overdue. This is the 21st century for the love of Christ. I'm so tired of this team clinging to a past that was never ever kind to it in the first place. we're so far behind the rest of the world when it comes to technology and advertising. It's time to part with the losing tadition and and embrace a new future, one that includes things like jumbotrons, urinals, spacious clubhouses, parking lots, and......winning championships.

I not only welcome the idea of a jumbotron, I embrace it. It's time we modernized. In fact, I would've been happy with the complete destruction of Wrigley and a newer more modern replica in it's place. I'm a Cub fan, not a Wrigley fan, though I do love wrigley for what it is.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
What he said

[rok]

Yeah, this traditionalist nonsense gets old after a while. The only tradition that Wrigley is notorious for is losing. I'm not saying that I hate the place, I don't, but I wouldn't be upset if the Rickettses blew it up and rebuilt a replica with modern creature comforts and technology. Would anyone really miss anything about the old structure as long as the ivy, scoreboard and marquee still stood there?

[AnnoCatuli]

<!--quoteo(post=83202:date=Mar 18 2010, 10:59 AM:name=rok)-->QUOTE (rok @ Mar 18 2010, 10:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Yeah, this traditionalist nonsense gets old after a while. The only tradition that Wrigley is notorious for is losing. I'm not saying that I hate the place, I don't, but I wouldn't be upset if the Rickettses blew it up and rebuilt a replica with modern creature comforts and technology. Would anyone really miss anything about the old structure as long as the ivy, scoreboard and marquee still stood there?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Thats what I have bee saying for years now.

Tear down everything from foulpole to foul pole. Leave the bleachers, ivy wall and scorebard as they are. Bleachers were jsut completely redone a few years ago and are still nice.

Take the sign marquee down and rebuild the rest. Make a larger, nicer stadium. Everyone wins that way. The "traditionalists" keep the Ivy, Scoreboard and Marquee. Everyone gets a nicer stadium.

If they ever do get a jumbotron (no idea where to put it yet) but if it replaces the scoreboard (maybe it gets sent to the HOF.... if thats allowed withthe landmarked status) Use it for replays, advertising between innings and whatever else gives you your jollies. But, since technology is so advanced, they can find a way to have the screen have an image of the old manual scoard board. They can even make it so authentic that the animation of the scoreboard actually looks like someone is changing the numbers by hand.

Just a thought

[Butcher]

<!--quoteo(post=83202:date=Mar 18 2010, 10:59 AM:name=rok)-->QUOTE (rok @ Mar 18 2010, 10:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Yeah, this traditionalist nonsense gets old after a while. The only tradition that Wrigley is notorious for is losing. I'm not saying that I hate the place, I don't, but I wouldn't be upset if the Rickettses blew it up and rebuilt a replica with modern creature comforts and technology. Would anyone really miss anything about the old structure as long as the ivy, scoreboard and marquee still stood there?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Here are the things I like about Wrigley:

- It's in a neighborhood. You can see the old apartments/condos/old trees surrounding the park. It's much better than being right next to a highway.
- It's right next door to a Red Line stop.
- There are a few parts of the old structure I really like -- the brick walls surrounding the field. The ivy. The old scoreboard. The way the field and the grass sort of take your breath away as you emerge from the dark tunnel.
- People complain about the troughs, but it's really the best way to keep the line moving in there. Urinals aren't more efficient. They aren't necessarily cleaner. I don't see the benefit of changing that. If the bathrooms were larger and could accommodate more stalls and make them easier to get to, then that would be great. It's hard to squeeze by the mass of pissing people to get to the stalls (which sucks when you're trying to get your daughter to the toilet before she has an accident).
- I know I'm in the minority here, but I like that there isn't a Jumbotron.

Things I don't like or wouldn't mind see changed:
- The seats are too narrow. I'm six feet, 185, and I feel squeezed into those chairs. I can't imagine they're all that comfortable for anyone bigger than me.
- The sightlines in some parts of the park aren't great. If you're under the upper deck, you lose sight of high fly balls.
- Seats behind poles.
- They do something at Fenway that I wish they would do at Wrigley -- the ushers don't let you return to your seat from the concourse if it isn't between half-innings. It really cuts down on the amount of people getting up and walking past you during the game. I had great seats a few years ago for the Cubs/A's interleague game (the one where Walker slid across home, Superman-style). But they were right in front of the gap between the two sections. There was a constant stream of people walking in front of you all game long. Annoying.
- There's nothing about the actual infrastructure that I have any emotional attachment to. I wouldn't care if they updated everything if they kept the things that make Wrigley unique (listed above in the first section).

[rok]

<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->- It's in a neighborhood. You can see the old apartments/condos/old trees surrounding the park. It's much better than being right next to a highway.
- It's right next door to a Red Line stop.
- There are a few parts of the old structure I really like -- the brick walls surrounding the field. The ivy. The old scoreboard. The way the field and the grass sort of take your breath away as you emerge from the dark tunnel.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Those things most likely wouldn't change or I think would be preserved in some form, as long as the team isn't moved to the burbs, which I don't believe will ever happen.

We share the same feelings regarding your other comments as well, aside from the jumbotron concerns, which I could learn to live with.

[jstraw]

<!--quoteo(post=83206:date=Mar 18 2010, 11:16 AM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Mar 18 2010, 11:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=83202:date=Mar 18 2010, 10:59 AM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Mar 18 2010, 10:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Yeah, this traditionalist nonsense gets old after a while. The only tradition that Wrigley is notorious for is losing. I'm not saying that I hate the place, I don't, but I wouldn't be upset if the Rickettses blew it up and rebuilt a replica with modern creature comforts and technology. Would anyone really miss anything about the old structure as long as the ivy, scoreboard and marquee still stood there?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Here are the things I like about Wrigley:

- It's in a neighborhood. You can see the old apartments/condos/old trees surrounding the park. It's much better than being right next to a highway.
- It's right next door to a Red Line stop.
- There are a few parts of the old structure I really like -- the brick walls surrounding the field. The ivy. The old scoreboard. The way the field and the grass sort of take your breath away as you emerge from the dark tunnel.
- People complain about the troughs, but it's really the best way to keep the line moving in there. Urinals aren't more efficient. They aren't necessarily cleaner. I don't see the benefit of changing that. If the bathrooms were larger and could accommodate more stalls and make them easier to get to, then that would be great. It's hard to squeeze by the mass of pissing people to get to the stalls (which sucks when you're trying to get your daughter to the toilet before she has an accident).
- I know I'm in the minority here, but I like that there isn't a Jumbotron.

Things I don't like or wouldn't mind see changed:
- The seats are too narrow. I'm six feet, 185, and I feel squeezed into those chairs. I can't imagine they're all that comfortable for anyone bigger than me.
- The sightlines in some parts of the park aren't great. If you're under the upper deck, you lose sight of high fly balls.
- Seats behind poles.
- They do something at Fenway that I wish they would do at Wrigley -- the ushers don't let you return to your seat from the concourse if it isn't between half-innings. It really cuts down on the amount of people getting up and walking past you during the game. I had great seats a few years ago for the Cubs/A's interleague game (the one where Walker slid across home, Superman-style). But they were right in front of the gap between the two sections. There was a constant stream of people walking in front of you all game long. Annoying.
- There's nothing about the actual infrastructure that I have any emotional attachment to. I wouldn't care if they updated everything if they kept the things that make Wrigley unique (listed above in the first section).
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I could see a modern replica. There would be some outcry. I'd say build the modern scoreboard so that the screens are to the left and right of the old, manual board. I's want modern amenities every inch of the way and yet, I'd want to be amazed at the sense of deja vu.

[veryzer]

<!--quoteo(post=83206:date=Mar 18 2010, 11:16 AM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Mar 18 2010, 11:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=83202:date=Mar 18 2010, 10:59 AM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Mar 18 2010, 10:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Yeah, this traditionalist nonsense gets old after a while. The only tradition that Wrigley is notorious for is losing. I'm not saying that I hate the place, I don't, but I wouldn't be upset if the Rickettses blew it up and rebuilt a replica with modern creature comforts and technology. Would anyone really miss anything about the old structure as long as the ivy, scoreboard and marquee still stood there?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Here are the things I like about Wrigley:

- It's in a neighborhood. You can see the old apartments/condos/old trees surrounding the park. It's much better than being right next to a highway.
- It's right next door to a Red Line stop.
- There are a few parts of the old structure I really like -- the brick walls surrounding the field. The ivy. The old scoreboard. The way the field and the grass sort of take your breath away as you emerge from the dark tunnel.
- People complain about the troughs, but it's really the best way to keep the line moving in there. Urinals aren't more efficient. They aren't necessarily cleaner. I don't see the benefit of changing that. If the bathrooms were larger and could accommodate more stalls and make them easier to get to, then that would be great. It's hard to squeeze by the mass of pissing people to get to the stalls (which sucks when you're trying to get your daughter to the toilet before she has an accident).
- I know I'm in the minority here, but I like that there isn't a Jumbotron.

Things I don't like or wouldn't mind see changed:
- The seats are too narrow. I'm six feet, 185, and I feel squeezed into those chairs. I can't imagine they're all that comfortable for anyone bigger than me.
- The sightlines in some parts of the park aren't great. If you're under the upper deck, you lose sight of high fly balls.
- Seats behind poles.
- They do something at Fenway that I wish they would do at Wrigley -- the ushers don't let you return to your seat from the concourse if it isn't between half-innings. It really cuts down on the amount of people getting up and walking past you during the game. I had great seats a few years ago for the Cubs/A's interleague game (the one where Walker slid across home, Superman-style). But they were right in front of the gap between the two sections. There was a constant stream of people walking in front of you all game long. Annoying.
- There's nothing about the actual infrastructure that I have any emotional attachment to. I wouldn't care if they updated everything if they kept the things that make Wrigley unique (listed above in the first section).
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I agree with all of that, including the urinals, but not the Jumbo-tron. It drives me crazy when there's a close play and I can't see a replay. Or a great play, but I missed it because a woman with her boobs hanging out just walked by. I don't want to have to scramble for my phone every time there's a big play and what happens if I forget it? Then I'm screwed. Give me a jumbo-tron and let the world see my big fat face cramming a hot dog down my throat during the 7th inning stretch. Got no problem with that, in fact, I demand it.

[jstraw]

<!--quoteo(post=83217:date=Mar 18 2010, 12:11 PM:name=veryzer)-->QUOTE (veryzer @ Mar 18 2010, 12:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=83206:date=Mar 18 2010, 11:16 AM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Mar 18 2010, 11:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=83202:date=Mar 18 2010, 10:59 AM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Mar 18 2010, 10:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Yeah, this traditionalist nonsense gets old after a while. The only tradition that Wrigley is notorious for is losing. I'm not saying that I hate the place, I don't, but I wouldn't be upset if the Rickettses blew it up and rebuilt a replica with modern creature comforts and technology. Would anyone really miss anything about the old structure as long as the ivy, scoreboard and marquee still stood there?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Here are the things I like about Wrigley:

- It's in a neighborhood. You can see the old apartments/condos/old trees surrounding the park. It's much better than being right next to a highway.
- It's right next door to a Red Line stop.
- There are a few parts of the old structure I really like -- the brick walls surrounding the field. The ivy. The old scoreboard. The way the field and the grass sort of take your breath away as you emerge from the dark tunnel.
- People complain about the troughs, but it's really the best way to keep the line moving in there. Urinals aren't more efficient. They aren't necessarily cleaner. I don't see the benefit of changing that. If the bathrooms were larger and could accommodate more stalls and make them easier to get to, then that would be great. It's hard to squeeze by the mass of pissing people to get to the stalls (which sucks when you're trying to get your daughter to the toilet before she has an accident).
- I know I'm in the minority here, but I like that there isn't a Jumbotron.

Things I don't like or wouldn't mind see changed:
- The seats are too narrow. I'm six feet, 185, and I feel squeezed into those chairs. I can't imagine they're all that comfortable for anyone bigger than me.
- The sightlines in some parts of the park aren't great. If you're under the upper deck, you lose sight of high fly balls.
- Seats behind poles.
- They do something at Fenway that I wish they would do at Wrigley -- the ushers don't let you return to your seat from the concourse if it isn't between half-innings. It really cuts down on the amount of people getting up and walking past you during the game. I had great seats a few years ago for the Cubs/A's interleague game (the one where Walker slid across home, Superman-style). But they were right in front of the gap between the two sections. There was a constant stream of people walking in front of you all game long. Annoying.
- There's nothing about the actual infrastructure that I have any emotional attachment to. I wouldn't care if they updated everything if they kept the things that make Wrigley unique (listed above in the first section).
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I agree with all of that, including the urinals, but not the Jumbo-tron. It drives me crazy when there's a close play and I can't see a replay. Or a great play, but I missed it because a woman with her boobs hanging out just walked by. I don't want to have to scramble for my phone every time there's a big play and what happens if I forget it? Then I'm screwed. Give me a jumbo-tron and let the world see my big fat face cramming a hot dog down my throat during the 7th inning stretch. Got no problem with that, in fact, I demand it.
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I went to one Royals game last year (sat behind the dugout in a seat I paid face for ($35) by walking up to the ticket window). I wound up on the jumbo. Thankfully, I was between wieners.

[Destined]

<!--quoteo(post=83221:date=Mar 18 2010, 10:25 AM:name=jstraw)-->QUOTE (jstraw @ Mar 18 2010, 10:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Thankfully, I was between wieners.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Top & Bottom?

[Giff]

<!--quoteo(post=83206:date=Mar 18 2010, 11:16 AM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Mar 18 2010, 11:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I had great seats a few years ago for the Cubs/A's interleague game (the one where Walker slid across home, Superman-style).<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
One of my favorite games I saw in person. I'll never forget that slide.

[Destined]

<!--quoteo(post=83225:date=Mar 18 2010, 10:47 AM:name=Giff)-->QUOTE (Giff @ Mar 18 2010, 10:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=83206:date=Mar 18 2010, 11:16 AM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Mar 18 2010, 11:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I had great seats a few years ago for the Cubs/A's interleague game (the one where Walker slid across home, Superman-style).<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
One of my favorite games I saw in person. I'll never forget that slide.
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Wasn't it Barrett that slid?

[Giff]

<!--quoteo(post=83226:date=Mar 18 2010, 12:48 PM:name=Destined)-->QUOTE (Destined @ Mar 18 2010, 12:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=83225:date=Mar 18 2010, 10:47 AM:name=Giff)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Giff @ Mar 18 2010, 10:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=83206:date=Mar 18 2010, 11:16 AM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Mar 18 2010, 11:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I had great seats a few years ago for the Cubs/A's interleague game (the one where Walker slid across home, Superman-style).<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
One of my favorite games I saw in person. I'll never forget that slide.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Wasn't it Barrett that slid?
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Barrett had the double that knocked in Walker.

[Destined]

<!--quoteo(post=83227:date=Mar 18 2010, 10:49 AM:name=Giff)-->QUOTE (Giff @ Mar 18 2010, 10:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=83226:date=Mar 18 2010, 12:48 PM:name=Destined)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Destined @ Mar 18 2010, 12:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=83225:date=Mar 18 2010, 10:47 AM:name=Giff)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Giff @ Mar 18 2010, 10:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=83206:date=Mar 18 2010, 11:16 AM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Mar 18 2010, 11:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I had great seats a few years ago for the Cubs/A's interleague game (the one where Walker slid across home, Superman-style).<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
One of my favorite games I saw in person. I'll never forget that slide.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Wasn't it Barrett that slid?
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Barrett had the double that knocked in Walker.
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Yep. I just pulled up the box score on BR. I thought Barrett was in there somewhere. I was in Seattle that weekend getting ready for an Alaskan Cruise and I remember a picture of the slide being the front page of cubs.com.