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<!--quoteo(post=72341:date=Dec 18 2009, 02:51 PM:name=Rappster)-->QUOTE (Rappster @ Dec 18 2009, 02:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=72338:date=Dec 18 2009, 03:49 PM:name=KBwsb)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KBwsb @ Dec 18 2009, 03:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I dress like Hendry wheels and deals.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You suck dick like a malamute.
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sweet! I've got a big jar of peanut butter and nobody to share it with. Whadaya say Kabes?
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<!--quoteo(post=72224:date=Dec 18 2009, 01:40 PM:name=ColoradoCub)-->QUOTE (ColoradoCub @ Dec 18 2009, 01:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Here's my problem. So what if we kept Bradley and he had a bad season next year. In 2011, he'd be playing for a new contract. I don't even think Bradley is stupid enough to not give it his best in a contract year, and he is capable of putting up great offensive numbers, as he did in Texas. Silva, on the other hand, has never even been a remotely good pitcher. We've exchanged a good, possibly great, player with a bad attitude and a bad contract for a bad player with a bad contract who is coming off an injury... I just don't see the logic in it. $6m in savings over 2 seasons isn't going to get us much in return.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You don't have to be stupid if you're crazy.
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<!--quoteo(post=72259:date=Dec 18 2009, 02:22 PM:name=ruby23)-->QUOTE (ruby23 @ Dec 18 2009, 02:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=72203:date=Dec 18 2009, 01:06 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Dec 18 2009, 01:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->If the Cubs can turn that $6 M into a decent CFer and Silva can be a 5th starter, I don't totally hate the deal.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
That's a good point ruby, I agree.
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<!--quoteo(post=72287:date=Dec 18 2009, 02:37 PM:name=veryzer)-->QUOTE (veryzer @ Dec 18 2009, 02:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=72284:date=Dec 18 2009, 02:35 PM:name=KBwsb)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KBwsb @ Dec 18 2009, 02:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=72271:date=Dec 18 2009, 02:27 PM:name=Quinn)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Quinn @ Dec 18 2009, 02:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->A buddy of mine just said, "I'd rather have Silva sucking every 5th day than Bradley sucking every day."<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Define "suck." Here's a way to do it in a factual manner...by comparing how a player performs compared to all other MLB players. It's called OPS+ for hitters, and ERA+ for pitchers. A score of 100 is baseline. Above 100, is good. Below 100, isn't that good. Over 125 is star-quality. Under 75 is hideous.
Bradley in 2008-161
Bradley in 2009-99
Silva in 2008-65
Silva in 2009-50
Bradley was average last year, and MVP-calibre the year before.
Silva SUCKS fucking donkey dick.
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WE ALL FUCKING KNOW SILVA SUCKS. THAT ISN"T THE POINT AND YOU KNOW IT. Bradley HAD to be traded. There are no ifs ands or buts about it.
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Bradley had to be traded. But Hendry poisoned the market for him. Imagine a fake injury rather than a suspension and imagine Hendry talking up his trade value rather than running around looking desperate to dump him. I've said this could have gone worse but it also could have gone a hell of a lot better. Silva didn't have to be the best we could do...going back to August...Hendry made it the best we could do in December.
Addendum: I see now that dk beat me to this.
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A big fuck you to our idiot fans, a big fuck you to lou piniella, and a big fuck you to jim hendry for giving into this shit. Bradley is going to absolutely rake and lead the M's to the AL West crown. But we're more concerned about everybody getting along and having lovable dickwads on the team. Give me a fucking break. Worst transaction in franchise history. Hope the bleacher bums enjoy Carlos Silva and Marlon Byrd.
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<!--quoteo(post=72357:date=Dec 18 2009, 03:50 PM:name=Clapp)-->QUOTE (Clapp @ Dec 18 2009, 03:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->A big fuck you to our idiot fans, a big fuck you to lou piniella, and a big fuck you to jim hendry for giving into this shit. Bradley is going to absolutely rake and lead the M's to the AL West crown. But we're more concerned about everybody getting along and having lovable dickwads on the team. Give me a fucking break. Worst transaction in franchise history. Hope the bleacher bums enjoy Carlos Silva and Marlon Byrd.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Clapp gets it.
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<!--quoteo(post=72357:date=Dec 18 2009, 02:50 PM:name=Clapp)-->QUOTE (Clapp @ Dec 18 2009, 02:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->A big fuck you to our idiot fans, a big fuck you to lou piniella, and a big fuck you to jim hendry for giving into this shit. Bradley is going to absolutely rake and lead the M's to the AL West crown. But we're more concerned about everybody getting along and having lovable dickwads on the team. Give me a fucking break. <b>Worst transaction in franchise history</b>. Hope the bleacher bums enjoy Carlos Silva and Marlon Byrd.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Um...Brock for Broglio?
I hate my pretentious sounding username too.
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<!--quoteo(post=72360:date=Dec 18 2009, 05:53 PM:name=Destined)-->QUOTE (Destined @ Dec 18 2009, 05:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=72357:date=Dec 18 2009, 02:50 PM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Dec 18 2009, 02:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->A big fuck you to our idiot fans, a big fuck you to lou piniella, and a big fuck you to jim hendry for giving into this shit. Bradley is going to absolutely rake and lead the M's to the AL West crown. But we're more concerned about everybody getting along and having lovable dickwads on the team. Give me a fucking break. <b>Worst transaction in franchise history</b>. Hope the bleacher bums enjoy Carlos Silva and Marlon Byrd.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Um...Brock for Broglio?
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At least Broglio was good before he came to Chicago. In Silva we know we are getting a sack of shit, period.
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<!--quoteo(post=72360:date=Dec 18 2009, 03:53 PM:name=Destined)-->QUOTE (Destined @ Dec 18 2009, 03:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=72357:date=Dec 18 2009, 02:50 PM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Dec 18 2009, 02:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->A big fuck you to our idiot fans, a big fuck you to lou piniella, and a big fuck you to jim hendry for giving into this shit. Bradley is going to absolutely rake and lead the M's to the AL West crown. But we're more concerned about everybody getting along and having lovable dickwads on the team. Give me a fucking break. <b>Worst transaction in franchise history</b>. Hope the bleacher bums enjoy Carlos Silva and Marlon Byrd.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Um...Brock for Broglio?
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Of course that turned out to be the worst, but on the surface... we just traded the AL's best hitter in 2008 for the absolute worst player still in the majors. Would rather have the 09 Aaron Miles than Carlos fucking Silva.
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This quote was from a baseball article trying to say <i>nice</i> things about Silva:
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No, that is not a typo. The entire <i>league</i> is batting like Ty Cobb at his peak against Silva.
The Venezuelan league.
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I just don't know if Bradley could be good with the Cubs though. He was probably more unhappy about being there than people were about him being there. He talked a lot of shit and had this notion that everybody was racist towards him and his family. He's nuts. He might go somewhere else, feel comfortable, and play great. I'm just not sure it was ever going to happen in Chicago. If he puts up big numbers with Seattle next year, it doesn't mean it would have happened with the Cubs.
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Agreed. I don't think the voices in Bradley's head would allow him to hit well with the Cubs either. And do any of you really expect Silva to be slotted into the rotation? lol
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Um...Brock for Broglio?
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Yes, he's got the potential to pitch 200 innings, 200 shitty innings, but 200 innings nonetheless. Bert Blyleven had some nice things to say about him, but it's not much consolation to me...
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Which Carlos Silva are the Chicago Cubs getting in the Milton Bradley trade?
Is he the one who was a solid middle-of-the-rotation starter with the Minnesota Twins, who averaged 193 innings from 2004-07? Or will he be the Silva of the past one-plus seasons with the Seattle Mariners, the one who went 5-18 after signing a four-year, $48 million free-agent contract?
It will all depend on whether the 30-year-old pitcher is healthy, says Twins television analyst and former pitcher Bert Blyleven.
"What the Cubs got is, if he's healthy, a guy that could pitch 200 innings for them," Blyleven said Friday on "The Waddle & Silvy Show" on ESPN 1000. "He's got a great sinking fastball, very good control. He's a battler. He's a lot like Carlos Zambrano as far as attacking the strike zone. Carlos Silva does not walk a lot of guys. He's not going to strike out a lot of guys. He's a contact-type pitcher that when he's on has a good sinking fastball."
Silva has been victimized by the long ball, however. He gave up a major-league high 38 home runs in 2006.
"If he doesn't have that sinker and it stays up in the strike zone it's a very hittable pitch," Blyleven said.
The Twins let Silva walk after the 2007 season, unwilling to spend upwards of $12 million on a pitcher who was a third or fourth starter. seattle signed him to a big contract and he suffered through his worst season, going 4-15 with a 6.74 earned-run average. He followed that up with an injury-shortened 2009 season during which he made just six starts and two relief appearances.
"He went to Seattle and had a miserable year," Blyleven said. "He had some lower back problems. During the winter of 2008 and 2009 he spent some time here in Fort Myers, Fla. (the Twins' spring training home), really reducing his body fat and reducing his weight. He was looking forward to the 2009 season and then his shoulder flared up, and he missed most of all last year."
Although his ability to stay healthy may be questioned, Silva the teammate is dependable, according to Blyleven.
"As far as a person, this guy works his rear end off," Blyleven said. "He's a good clubhouse presence. He's got very good chemistry with all the other players. He's a nice addition to the Cubs as long as he's healthy."<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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I like Blyleven. He should be in the HOF. However, it is alarming that these were his main good points about Silva:
-chemistry guy
-nice in clubhouse
-hard worker
In other words...another Hendry special.
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