McGwire Cheated

[Tailgater]

Couldn't agree more Runnys. In fact if Selig had any balls at all, he'd make sure his name wasn't even on the ballot.

Of course we all know Selig won't do that.

[jstraw]

As far as I'm concerned he admitted everything to Congress. "I'm not here to talk about the past."

Jesus de Ivan...did he think they needed him to testify about the future?

[HTC]

My latest Facebook status update is getting fun.

[Runnys]

<!--quoteo(post=75619:date=Jan 12 2010, 07:02 AM:name=jstraw)-->QUOTE (jstraw @ Jan 12 2010, 07:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->As far as I'm concerned he admitted everything to Congress. "I'm not here to talk about the past."

Jesus de Ivan...did he think they needed him to testify about the future?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->


I don't know if you watched the interview or not, but he stated his reason for not saying anything in front of Congress.

[The Dude]

<!--quoteo(post=75663:date=Jan 12 2010, 10:19 AM:name=Runnys)-->QUOTE (Runnys @ Jan 12 2010, 10:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=75619:date=Jan 12 2010, 07:02 AM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Jan 12 2010, 07:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->As far as I'm concerned he admitted everything to Congress. "I'm not here to talk about the past."

Jesus de Ivan...did he think they needed him to testify about the future?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->


I don't know if you watched the interview or not, but he stated his reason for not saying anything in front of Congress.
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care to share?

[Butcher]

<!--quoteo(post=75665:date=Jan 12 2010, 10:29 AM:name=The Dude)-->QUOTE (The Dude @ Jan 12 2010, 10:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=75663:date=Jan 12 2010, 10:19 AM:name=Runnys)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Runnys @ Jan 12 2010, 10:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=75619:date=Jan 12 2010, 07:02 AM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Jan 12 2010, 07:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->As far as I'm concerned he admitted everything to Congress. "I'm not here to talk about the past."

Jesus de Ivan...did he think they needed him to testify about the future?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->


I don't know if you watched the interview or not, but he stated his reason for not saying anything in front of Congress.
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care to share?
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Some bullshit about wanting to protect his family.

Not sure what's different now.

[Runnys]

He said that they weren't given immunity so his lawyers advised him to not say anything to incriminate himself.

Butch, I think Costas touched on it during the interview...that statute of limitations may have run out on him being able to be prosecuted. Not sure if that is correct or not but that is what Costas mentioned.

[Jody]

Taken from today's State Journal Register:

<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->McGwire said he wanted to come forward at the congressional hearing on March 17, 2005. "But unfortunately immunity was not granted," he said. McGwire's lawyers, Mark Bierbower and Marty Steinberg, told him if he mad an admission, he could be charged with a crime.

"That was the worst 48 hours of my life, going through that, but I had to listen to the advice of my attorneys," he said.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

[Butcher]

<!--quoteo(post=75667:date=Jan 12 2010, 10:41 AM:name=Runnys)-->QUOTE (Runnys @ Jan 12 2010, 10:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->He said that they weren't given immunity so his lawyers advised him to not say anything to incriminate himself.

Butch, I think Costas touched on it during the interview...that statute of limitations may have run out on him being able to be prosecuted. Not sure if that is correct or not but that is what Costas mentioned.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Ah. I missed that.

Still...fuck him.

[1060Ivy]

Believe I was in a similar situation as McGuire, once.

The police had just discovered the bodies of 42 prostitutes in my basement.

You see I wanted to tell them the police that I had chopped each of the prostitutes up into little pieces but since the police wouldn't give me immunity, on the advice of counsel and not wanting to embarrass my family, I decided not to talk about the past.

What a crock!

[Butcher]

<!--quoteo(post=75688:date=Jan 12 2010, 12:01 PM:name=1060Ivy)-->QUOTE (1060Ivy @ Jan 12 2010, 12:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Believe I was in a similar situation as McGuire, once.

The police had just discovered the bodies of 42 prostitutes in my basement.

You see I wanted to tell them the police that I had chopped each of the prostitutes up into little pieces but since the police wouldn't give me immunity, on the advice of counsel and not wanting to embarrass my family, I decided not to talk about the past.

What a crock!<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
And you only wanted to talk about the whores you were going to murder in the future. I get that -- seems totally reasonable.

[Destined]

Saw on ESPN today, an interview with LaRussa. I don't have the exact quote, but it was something to the effect of "well he did it to overcome injuries, so it's not like he was cheating."

LaRussa is the biggest fraud in the history of sports.

[Butcher]

Good take on it from Desipio.

[rok]

<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->* Let’s establish the fact that McGwire feels that he would have hit 70 homers in 1998 without steroids. He’s still clinging to the life raft made of bullshit about bat speed and genetics and hand-eye coordination that the “Man Upstairs” had given him. So Costas asks him if he has talked to anyone in the Maris family. You remember the Marises, right? Their dad broke Babe Ruth’s single season home run record in 1961. He had to deal with his own fans rooting against him that season because they didn’t think he was a “true” Yankee, and that if anybody was going to break the Babe’s record it was the alcoholic, sex addict they had in centerfield. The stress of the chase and the fan reaction caused Maris to suffer ulcers and his hair started falling out. After Maris broke the record, he had to deal with the Commissioner of Baseball, Ford Frick (almost as big of a delusional douchebag as current Interim-Commissioner-For-Life-And-Used-Car-Salesman Bud Selig) declaring an asterisk (or “asterick” if you are Katie Couric) be placed on the record because the season was eight games longer in 1961 than it was in 1927 when the Babe set the record. Frick didn’t bother to put an asterisk next to the Babe’s noting that he played at a time when blacks and Latin Americans weren’t allowed to play. You probably also remember that McGwire did all kinds of phony bullshit during the home run record chase, like fondle the bat (on loan from the Hall of Fame) that Maris had hit 61 with, and he played nice with the Maris family and told them how much he admired their father. He was doing all of this while injecting steroids into his body to combat an injury that apparently didn’t exist in 1998. OK, so now Costas has asked him if he has talked to any of the Marises since he announced he’d used steroids. McGwire said he had called Roger’s widow, Pat. “She was disappointed and she has every right to be. I couldn’t tell her how so sorry I was.” What the hell are you sorry for? You claim that you would have hit those 70 homers anyway. You claim that steroids don’t hit baseballs, and that they had nothing to do with any of your homers. What are you apologizing for? And on top of that, why are you crying? What is the matter with you? Were you injecting Winstrol or estrogen? Suck it up, man. Grow a pair! (Actually, given some of the side effects of prolonged steroid use, you might literally need a pair, because yours might be gone.)<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->* Costas asked McGwire when Tony found out and McGwire says he told him that morning. Does anybody really believe this at all? How arrogant are the Fleischer-LaRussa-McGwire cabal, that they think anyone would actually believe that Tony LaRussa hasn’t known that guys on his teams have been juicing since the mid 1980s? No manager has benefited more from the rampant use of steroids and other performance enhancing drugs (and continues to) than Tony LaRussa. Dusty Baker and Joe Torre are certainly in the team picture, but Tony’s the captain of this ship. LaRussa says that he didn’t know, just that his amateur strength coach/first base coach Dave MacKay, started the guys on weightlifting regimens during the 80s in Oakland and the team benefited from that “advantage.” Oh, there was an advantage, all right.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Bingo.

[funkster]

LaRussa is so full of shit. This is a total PR move now that he's returning as the hitting coach...i'm certain the Cardinals pushed him to come clean since he was coming back.