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Runnys · 02-07-2010, 01:11 PM

QUOTE I think it's really cool to be able to switch over and watch an inning or two called by the opposing team's broadcasters.

Maybe I am biased, but when I listen to other teams broadcasters it honestly makes my ears want to bleed. The ONLY other broadcaster I can listen to is Vin Scully and that is because the man does the game by himself...it is really remarkable. Seriously though, the D-Bags, Rockies, Cards, Sox, and a lot of other teams just have horrible broadcasting crews.

Honestly, the fact I could watch every Cubs broadcast may be reason enough to switch.

How hard is it to hook a laptop up to HDTV? Also, to get HD, I am assuming I need to use HD cables..right?

***jeffy*** · 02-07-2010, 01:41 PM

QUOTE (Runnys @ Feb 7 2010, 12:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>How hard is it to hook a laptop up to HDTV? Also, to get HD, I am assuming I need to use HD cables..right?

It depends on what outputs your laptop has and what inputs your TV has. My laptop is a bit older (from 2006), so I use a VGA cable into my HDTV's "PC Input". The quality is very good and it is HD resolution, but the best quality would be with an HDMI cable if your laptop has that output. Most new ones do these days. The other benefit with HDMI is that it inputs the sound to your TV too, so you don't have to use an extra cable for that. Since I don't have an HDMI output on my laptop, I have to use the headphone jack to get the audio to my TV if I don't want to use the crappy laptop speakers.

Kid · 02-07-2010, 02:25 PM

QUOTE (jstraw @ Feb 7 2010, 09:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Fella @ Feb 7 2010, 01:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Feb 6 2010, 04:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Feb 6 2010, 02:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Fella @ Feb 6 2010, 01:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I prefer MLB.TV simply because you get every single game all year with less strict blackout options and you can watch it anywhere.
That's a very good point as well about the blackout restrictions, and it sucks they won't let you buy individual games anymore on mlb.tv with that in mind for Saturday games.

With the NFL Sunday Ticket Superfan package, you can also watch the games online... I wonder if DirecTV will ever let you do that with the EI package.
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Actually, it's not a point at all. MLB.tv observes exactly the same blackout restrictions.
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Not true

MLB.TV has a much smaller blackout window on Saturdays and no window at all except the Sunday night ESPN game on Sundays.

There were several games last year (pretty much every Saturday day game) that I got on MLB.TV that Clapp did not get on Extra innings.
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I have no idea what Extra Innings chooses to include or exclude but if you're billed within a given blackout area, there are no games that are subject to league blackout restrictions that you will be able to see on MLB.tv. I believe these restrictions includes the FOX Saturday blackout hours. I do not know if this includes ESPN's Sunday night. Extra innings may be excluding some games for reasons I know nothing about...some sort of contractual or discretionary thing...resulting in MLB.tv <i>having</i> more games than EI...but MLB.tv is still subject to the same league blackout restrictions.
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I think the geographical blackouts are the same, but Fella is right about time-based blackouts. EI blacks out all Saturday games which start before 7:05 ET. MLB.TV shows early Saturday day games (starting by 1:05 ET) that EI does not. I would estimate that the Cubs have 8-10 of those a season.

Fella · 02-07-2010, 04:02 PM

QUOTE (Kid @ Feb 7 2010, 11:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Feb 7 2010, 09:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Fella @ Feb 7 2010, 01:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Feb 6 2010, 04:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Feb 6 2010, 02:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Fella @ Feb 6 2010, 01:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I prefer MLB.TV simply because you get every single game all year with less strict blackout options and you can watch it anywhere.
That's a very good point as well about the blackout restrictions, and it sucks they won't let you buy individual games anymore on mlb.tv with that in mind for Saturday games.

With the NFL Sunday Ticket Superfan package, you can also watch the games online... I wonder if DirecTV will ever let you do that with the EI package.
</div>

Actually, it's not a point at all. MLB.tv observes exactly the same blackout restrictions.
</div>

Not true

MLB.TV has a much smaller blackout window on Saturdays and no window at all except the Sunday night ESPN game on Sundays.

There were several games last year (pretty much every Saturday day game) that I got on MLB.TV that Clapp did not get on Extra innings.
</div>

I have no idea what Extra Innings chooses to include or exclude but if you're billed within a given blackout area, there are no games that are subject to league blackout restrictions that you will be able to see on MLB.tv. I believe these restrictions includes the FOX Saturday blackout hours. I do not know if this includes ESPN's Sunday night. Extra innings may be excluding some games for reasons I know nothing about...some sort of contractual or discretionary thing...resulting in MLB.tv <i>having</i> more games than EI...but MLB.tv is still subject to the same league blackout restrictions.
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I think the geographical blackouts are the same, but Fella is right about time-based blackouts. EI blacks out all Saturday games which start before 7:05 ET. MLB.TV shows early Saturday day games (starting by 1:05 ET) that EI does not. I would estimate that the Cubs have 8-10 of those a season.
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Yeah this is what I meant. All Rockies and D-backs games are blacked out for me, on both EI and MLB.TV but early Saturday day games and late afternoon Sunday games get blacked out across the board on EI and they do not on MLB.TV. On the schedule this year thats gonna make a difference of about 12 games. Not a huge deal to most but to someone like me who literally watches every game, its a big difference.

Brownshoe · 02-07-2010, 06:07 PM

QUOTE (Fella @ Feb 7 2010, 03:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid @ Feb 7 2010, 11:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Feb 7 2010, 09:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Fella @ Feb 7 2010, 01:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Feb 6 2010, 04:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Feb 6 2010, 02:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Fella @ Feb 6 2010, 01:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I prefer MLB.TV simply because you get every single game all year with less strict blackout options and you can watch it anywhere.
That's a very good point as well about the blackout restrictions, and it sucks they won't let you buy individual games anymore on mlb.tv with that in mind for Saturday games.

With the NFL Sunday Ticket Superfan package, you can also watch the games online... I wonder if DirecTV will ever let you do that with the EI package.
</div>

Actually, it's not a point at all. MLB.tv observes exactly the same blackout restrictions.
</div>

Not true

MLB.TV has a much smaller blackout window on Saturdays and no window at all except the Sunday night ESPN game on Sundays.

There were several games last year (pretty much every Saturday day game) that I got on MLB.TV that Clapp did not get on Extra innings.
</div>

I have no idea what Extra Innings chooses to include or exclude but if you're billed within a given blackout area, there are no games that are subject to league blackout restrictions that you will be able to see on MLB.tv. I believe these restrictions includes the FOX Saturday blackout hours. I do not know if this includes ESPN's Sunday night. Extra innings may be excluding some games for reasons I know nothing about...some sort of contractual or discretionary thing...resulting in MLB.tv <i>having</i> more games than EI...but MLB.tv is still subject to the same league blackout restrictions.
</div>
I think the geographical blackouts are the same, but Fella is right about time-based blackouts. EI blacks out all Saturday games which start before 7:05 ET. MLB.TV shows early Saturday day games (starting by 1:05 ET) that EI does not. I would estimate that the Cubs have 8-10 of those a season.
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Yeah this is what I meant. All Rockies and D-backs games are blacked out for me, on both EI and MLB.TV but early Saturday day games and late afternoon Sunday games get blacked out across the board on EI and they do not on MLB.TV. On the schedule this year thats gonna make a difference of about 12 games. Not a huge deal to most but to someone like me who literally watches every game, its a big difference.
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Fox usually has 3 or 4 "regional" games, one of which will be picked up by the local Fox Station but all the other games will be blacked out on MLB.TV. If the Cubs are one of the "regional" games on Fox and my local affiliate is broadcasting a Red Sox game there is no Cubs game on MLB.TV

Fella · 02-07-2010, 06:12 PM

QUOTE (Brownshoe @ Feb 7 2010, 03:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Fella @ Feb 7 2010, 03:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid @ Feb 7 2010, 11:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Feb 7 2010, 09:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Fella @ Feb 7 2010, 01:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Feb 6 2010, 04:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Feb 6 2010, 02:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Fella @ Feb 6 2010, 01:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I prefer MLB.TV simply because you get every single game all year with less strict blackout options and you can watch it anywhere.
That's a very good point as well about the blackout restrictions, and it sucks they won't let you buy individual games anymore on mlb.tv with that in mind for Saturday games.

With the NFL Sunday Ticket Superfan package, you can also watch the games online... I wonder if DirecTV will ever let you do that with the EI package.
</div>

Actually, it's not a point at all. MLB.tv observes exactly the same blackout restrictions.
</div>

Not true

MLB.TV has a much smaller blackout window on Saturdays and no window at all except the Sunday night ESPN game on Sundays.

There were several games last year (pretty much every Saturday day game) that I got on MLB.TV that Clapp did not get on Extra innings.
</div>

I have no idea what Extra Innings chooses to include or exclude but if you're billed within a given blackout area, there are no games that are subject to league blackout restrictions that you will be able to see on MLB.tv. I believe these restrictions includes the FOX Saturday blackout hours. I do not know if this includes ESPN's Sunday night. Extra innings may be excluding some games for reasons I know nothing about...some sort of contractual or discretionary thing...resulting in MLB.tv <i>having</i> more games than EI...but MLB.tv is still subject to the same league blackout restrictions.
</div>
I think the geographical blackouts are the same, but Fella is right about time-based blackouts. EI blacks out all Saturday games which start before 7:05 ET. MLB.TV shows early Saturday day games (starting by 1:05 ET) that EI does not. I would estimate that the Cubs have 8-10 of those a season.
</div>

Yeah this is what I meant. All Rockies and D-backs games are blacked out for me, on both EI and MLB.TV but early Saturday day games and late afternoon Sunday games get blacked out across the board on EI and they do not on MLB.TV. On the schedule this year thats gonna make a difference of about 12 games. Not a huge deal to most but to someone like me who literally watches every game, its a big difference.
</div>
Fox usually has 3 or 4 "regional" games, one of which will be picked up by the local Fox Station but all the other games will be blacked out on MLB.TV. If the Cubs are one of the "regional" games on Fox and my local affiliate is broadcasting a Red Sox game there is no Cubs game on MLB.TV
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Correct, but Extra innings blacks out all Saturday games before 7 ET whether or not they are Fox regional games or not.

Destined · 02-07-2010, 06:50 PM

QUOTE (Fella @ Feb 7 2010, 02:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brownshoe @ Feb 7 2010, 03:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Fella @ Feb 7 2010, 03:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid @ Feb 7 2010, 11:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Feb 7 2010, 09:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Fella @ Feb 7 2010, 01:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Feb 6 2010, 04:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Feb 6 2010, 02:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Fella @ Feb 6 2010, 01:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I prefer MLB.TV simply because you get every single game all year with less strict blackout options and you can watch it anywhere.
That's a very good point as well about the blackout restrictions, and it sucks they won't let you buy individual games anymore on mlb.tv with that in mind for Saturday games.

With the NFL Sunday Ticket Superfan package, you can also watch the games online... I wonder if DirecTV will ever let you do that with the EI package.
</div>

Actually, it's not a point at all. MLB.tv observes exactly the same blackout restrictions.
</div>

Not true

MLB.TV has a much smaller blackout window on Saturdays and no window at all except the Sunday night ESPN game on Sundays.

There were several games last year (pretty much every Saturday day game) that I got on MLB.TV that Clapp did not get on Extra innings.
</div>

I have no idea what Extra Innings chooses to include or exclude but if you're billed within a given blackout area, there are no games that are subject to league blackout restrictions that you will be able to see on MLB.tv. I believe these restrictions includes the FOX Saturday blackout hours. I do not know if this includes ESPN's Sunday night. Extra innings may be excluding some games for reasons I know nothing about...some sort of contractual or discretionary thing...resulting in MLB.tv <i>having</i> more games than EI...but MLB.tv is still subject to the same league blackout restrictions.
</div>
I think the geographical blackouts are the same, but Fella is right about time-based blackouts. EI blacks out all Saturday games which start before 7:05 ET. MLB.TV shows early Saturday day games (starting by 1:05 ET) that EI does not. I would estimate that the Cubs have 8-10 of those a season.
</div>

Yeah this is what I meant. All Rockies and D-backs games are blacked out for me, on both EI and MLB.TV but early Saturday day games and late afternoon Sunday games get blacked out across the board on EI and they do not on MLB.TV. On the schedule this year thats gonna make a difference of about 12 games. Not a huge deal to most but to someone like me who literally watches every game, its a big difference.
</div>
Fox usually has 3 or 4 "regional" games, one of which will be picked up by the local Fox Station but all the other games will be blacked out on MLB.TV. If the Cubs are one of the "regional" games on Fox and my local affiliate is broadcasting a Red Sox game there is no Cubs game on MLB.TV
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Correct, but Extra innings blacks out all Saturday games before 7 ET whether or not they are Fox regional games or not.
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The Cubs play their Saturday home games at 12:05 CT in order to maintain the exclusive rights for FOX. If the game was at the normal 1:20, they would be blacked-out on MLB.tv because in theory each game is 3 hours, thus overlapping with the FOX game for an hour.

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